Mounting an Eheim question...

[Mr B]

Hi guys,

I'm getting ready to put together my first H20 system, and have a question about mounting the Eheim. The question has to do with the position it can be mounted in.

Can the pump be mounted upside down (as shown in the attached pic)?? I'd like to bolt it to the bottom of the HDD/floppy cage in my full tower, if there's enough room for the out (pressure) line to clear the top of the DD Cube...

Here's a pic of the pump, in the position I'd like to mount it:

[Mr B]

Here's a pic of my full tower case, with the relative position of where the pump will go drawn in white.

You can just make out below it, the 120mm front intake fan. The DD Cube will sit at the same height, so I think there will be enough room to do this, but the question is, can the pump be mounted in this position??

BTW...I plan on moving the HDD up into one of the open CD-ROM bays....

Thanks in advance!

Brian

[Maximus Nickus]

Simply Yes:D
Basically as long as the flow resistance isn't to high the pump should easily be able to pump around the H20, I'm not going to go into detail here I'm saying a one word answer!

YES YES YES YES! (ok 4):rolleyes:


M_N

[Maximus Nickus]

Ok now the detailed part.;)
I'm guessing that you have the Eheim 1048, (same as Hoot) now you may have some problems getting the water to flow optimumly as the pump is having to work against gravity, however as long as its not a Dual-Loop system and isn't too complex (HDD/GPU/N-B/) then it will be ok.

I mounted my Viaqua the same way and due to my Dual-Looped system cooling the GPU,CPU and N-B the flowrate was awful.


Good Luck,
Just make sure you take your time and clamp the hoses.


Remember the Water too!:D
M_N

[The Overclocker]

it will work, infact the watercooling may be aided as you have gravity working with you, if the inlet was facing towards the ground instead of the outlet you would have a problem - but that position is fine

[JFettig]

Originally posted by the overclocker
it will work, infact the watercooling may be aided as you have gravity working with you, if the inlet was facing towards the ground instead of the outlet you would have a problem - but that position is fine

i had my pump mounted on the back of my case for a day, it was working just the same, but i have vinal hose, and it was pushing on my waterblock causing it to not have good contact...

[vandersl]

Mr B,

I think I know why you are asking the question. In the Eheim manual, the upside-down orientation is specifically the only one which is crossed-out as a no-no. I saw that too.

I really can't figure out why this would be a problem, but they felt it important enough to put in the manual. Unless I read the little picture incorrectly :)

I would try it - but don't say they didn't try to warn you!

[Maximus Nickus]

Originally posted by the overclocker
it will work, infact the watercooling may be aided as you have gravity working with you, if the inlet was facing towards the ground instead of the outlet you would have a problem - but that position is fine


Actually gravity is not aiding here, it has to go with gravity then against, normally it just goes up, one less direction one less problem = less flow resistance.

M_N

[simon389]

so that said, would it be better to just place the pump on it's side, about mid height in the case for the least resistance??

That way no inlet or outlet is going up or down. :eh?:

[TonyMc]

Another spot, in a case that size, would be above the PSU, but then again it might slow down flow being that high in the case. Also heat from the PSU might be an issue. When I ran my 1048, I just used the old method and left it at the bottom of the case:D

[Silversinksam]

Brian,

Since my PC is 100% static I mounted my Eheim 1250 under my desk suspended by 4 small wires....and its Upside down as you pictured it. (Its totally hidden and one wouldnt even know its there)

The reason its suspended with wires as opposed to just sitting on the ground is that when its suspended with wires it creates Zero noise and vibration.

If I had a better digital camera I'd post pics but my camera stinks and it doesnt have a flash :(

[Maximus Nickus]

Originally posted by Silversinksam
Brian,

Since my PC is 100% static I mounted my Eheim 1250 under my desk suspended by 4 small wires....and its Upside down as you pictured it. (Its totally hidden and one wouldnt even know its there)

The reason its suspended with wires as opposed to just sitting on the ground is that when its suspended with wires it creates Zero noise and vibration.

If I had a better digital camera I'd post pics but my camera stinks and it doesnt have a flash :(

Thats a superb idea, if you find some pictures please PM me:) I'm setting up an Eheim soon and noise/vibrations is always an issue, I suspect outside the case you might also get slightly lower idle temps too.

M_N:)

[Silversinksam]

Originally posted by Maximus Nickus


Thats a superb idea, if you find some pictures please PM me:) I'm setting up an Eheim soon and noise/vibrations is always an issue, I suspect outside the case you might also get slightly lower idle temps too.

M_N:)

Heres a couple of pictures, Keep in mind I have a large Corner Desk and the pumo is way underneath and not visible unless you actually look under the desk ;)

[Silversinksam]

Heres another pic

(PS Having the fill and bleed line outside the case also has obvious advantages)

[Maximus Nickus]

Thanks:)
You don't happen to have a picture of your fill/bleed lines do you? I've never had the pleasure of bleeding a system (yet;)) and I have a sustinct feeling that somethings gonna get wet:D

[grunjee]

Mr B --

I agree with the others here, there shouldn't be a problem mounting it upside-down.

I know from firsthand experience :D that it's a very strong pump. The day I got it, don't ask me what I was thinking, but I filled a bucket with water, put it in the kitchen, put the pump in the bucket (submerged), and plugged it in. The stream shot up and about hit the ceiling and I had a mess to clean up.

Btw, Mr B is getting the 1250 model... I have some insider knowledge on this one. :D

[Maximus Nickus]

You sold it to him!
I thought it was a 1048 though:D

[Mr B]

I've "spoken" with Hoot, our Chief Cooling Expert and Guru about this...he informed me that the mounting part can be rotated on the pump, allowing it to be mounted in any direction needed. I wasn't aware of this...I've never seen an Eheim up close and personal...:rolleyes:

So..... I'll either mount it as mentioned above (room allowing) or with the output horizontally placed, facing the left side (away from the mobo). Whichever fits best.

Thanks to all for their thoughts on this, and to Hoot, especially, for enlightening me to that fact on the Eheims...

Cheers!

B.

[Rotary-Motion]

hi

this thread has given me some ideas, i am waiting for a kit to come innovatek2 with a ehiem 1048

are these 1048 pumps ok for circulation or is it to small, i am to cool my gpu as well i ordered and extra gpu block and circulation inline monitor which connects to a fan header.

cheer all..........

[Maximus Nickus]

The Eheim 1048 should be fine, the only time you may need a Eheim 1200 or more is when you are using more than 2 waterblocks, or you are running a Dual-Loop system where a lot of tubing is involved..

PM me with any questions or queries, and remember every setup is different, so you may wish to buy a more powerful pump for better results or for future upgradeablility.
Also remember how you mount the pump, its all about flow resistance;) (well when knowing if your pump will move enough water!)

M_N

P.S. You may wish to look at my Cooling Guide:p

[Rotary-Motion]

hi

i am going to run a gpu block and cpu block at the same time for now just to get me into watercooling, i thought they would be the main babys to start cooling!?

it will be a very tight system not much in pipes at all , and all in the PC

would the pump be fine for that?

cheers

[Maximus Nickus]

Simply, 'Yes':)

[Rotary-Motion]

thx....

do you water cool? and if so could you help me on what the flow would be in which order check this and tell me if its ok

1st pump / rad / cpu / gpu then back to pump?

cheers

[Maximus Nickus]

Yes I do run Watercooling.
And nope that wouldn't be the best series, can you post in my Cooling Guide (http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70679) though? Don't want to ruin B's thread:D

M_N



P.S. All is explained there:)