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AZZKICKER
07-06-02, 08:44 PM
i got a AX-7 yesterday and a xp1700+

she can run 1705 @ 155 fsb @ 2.00 volts with a full load temp of 93F

at stock speeds max temp i seen was 79F

yea i may love the noise but damn.......i cant sl;eep in a quiet house lol

Hardass
07-06-02, 08:48 PM
It must be like sleeping next to a airport, I run a delta 68cfm and it,s loud. I also have a delta 80cfm on a rheo there is no way I could have that thing at full speed 24/7. Unless I had earplugs!:D

millertime
07-06-02, 09:44 PM
watercooling is cooler. in both ways.

MajinSSJVegetto
07-06-02, 10:29 PM
Whats your ambient temp?

My ambients above your cpu....

TonyMc
07-06-02, 11:10 PM
Right now with an ambient temp of 80°F I'm running at 88°F with an XP 1900+@ 144 fsb with water cooling and it's silent so put that in your pipe and smoke it!:D :cool: :D

Silversinksam
07-06-02, 11:24 PM
AZZ,

When I was trying out the AX-478 I was tempted to not put my watercooling back in. Thermalright makes great heatsinks. (theres even a new variant for us P4 people of the Ax-478, all I know is I never met a person unhappy with an Ax-7 or Ax-478.....In fact Ive gotten a few thank you PM's saying how happy they are....)

Anyway once you dabble in h20 you cant go back to air......Unless your related to Overclockers.com's very own Goober, cw823 :clap:

nikhsub1
07-07-02, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by AZZKICKER
i got a AX-7 yesterday and a xp1700+

she can run 1705 @ 155 fsb @ 2.00 volts with a full load temp of 93F

at stock speeds max temp i seen was 79F

yea i may love the noise but damn.......i cant sl;eep in a quiet house lol
How are you getting those temps? I guarantee you if you put your exact setup in a 8k3a that reads the on die sensor in the cpu your IDLE would be around 48-50C at 2V and load would be at about 60C. Don't trust the insocket thermistor if that is how you are taking your temps.

Compexpert
07-07-02, 05:15 AM
Originally posted by nikhsub1

How are you getting those temps? I guarantee you if you put your exact setup in a 8k3a that reads the on die sensor in the cpu your IDLE would be around 48-50C at 2V and load would be at about 60C. Don't trust the insocket thermistor if that is how you are taking your temps.

i was thinking that also since my board has the new core sensors thingy wich i hate cuss it reads temps muhc higher than my old board Altho i think this is cuss my Asus board just plain sucks at readin anything lol


im around 48 49 load temps and 44 46 idle old soyo dragon + was 33 idle and 38 load

Malakai
07-07-02, 05:24 AM
umm, gots the XP1600+ at 1.85ghz 2.14vcore 40c load temp recorded my DigiDoc 5 thermal probe touching the core....
ambient rad intake temp is 29c


what was that u were saying???:D(<----i forgot that, sorry!)

Compexpert
07-07-02, 05:34 AM
touching the core isnt the most accurate i would rather read the temps inside the core wich my mobo does :) sensors on it like u said are probly the second best but no the most accurat :)

rogerdugans
07-07-02, 08:22 AM
Nice temps!

But i'm not eating my heart out, pal;) :D

My air-cooled rigs run in my basement and get about the same temps my water-cooled workstion gets.

But I don't need earplugs next to the water-cooling.
Top 3:
XP1700@1782- 2.11vcore, 3.2 vdimm- 22c ambient, 40c cpu (socket thermistor) 39.8c cpu DigiDoc5. H2O cooled

XP1700@1731-2.05vcore,3.2 vdimm- 21c ambient, 40c cpu (socket therm)

TBird1000@1437- 1.85 vcore, 2.8 vdimm, 21c ambient 42c cpu (socket therm)

The above is how these babies run 24/7; when things really cool off I'll try to get some more mhz out of them.

vandersl
07-07-02, 08:29 AM
Threads like this drive me to distraction :mad:

First, Azzz, those are not real temps. Sorry, not possible, and posting them in a 'look at my temps' posts is just asking to be flamed.

FRAGN'STEIN - those are also not real temps. Do the math some day - you'll find that you need a bigger temp drop than that just to get the heat through the silicon in the core, much less through the WB, into the water, out of the water to the rad, and from the rad to the air.

Please poeple - I know you've all read posts about in-socket temps. Why do we continue to have 'mine is bigger than yours' posts?

The 'mine is bigger than yours' posts should be limited to O/C's only :beer:

packratbob
07-07-02, 08:47 AM
i think end stable o/c is more important them temps i reckon. i'm running and xp1800 @1867 mhz 162fsb stable vcore at 2.14 but i dont know wats holding me back?? temps are at 35 load with u type probe. i here ppls saying they get their xp1600 at 1900+mhz i dont know how they manage that. anybody know how can u pls tell me.
79 degs F load??wats that in C 27 something?? i dont think thats possible unless u got a/c duct tru that

cw823
07-07-02, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by vandersl
Threads like this drive me to distraction :mad:
First, Azzz, those are not real temps. Sorry, not possible, and posting them in a 'look at my temps' posts is just asking to be flamed.
FRAGN'STEIN - those are also not real temps. Do the math some day - you'll find that you need a bigger temp drop than that just to get the heat through the silicon in the core, much less through the WB, into the water, out of the water to the rad, and from the rad to the air.
Please poeple - I know you've all read posts about in-socket temps. Why do we continue to have 'mine is bigger than yours' posts?
The 'mine is bigger than yours' posts should be limited to O/C's only :beer:


Distraction? Maybe you shouldn't have responded. He was implying by the name of the thread that his air cooling is comparable to water cooling, not a ****ing contest over who has the coolest air-cooled system.

Perhaps this was one opinion best left unsaid.

Compexpert
07-07-02, 11:58 AM
yawn lol

nikhsub1
07-07-02, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by Malakai
umm, gots the XP1600+ at 1.85ghz 2.14vcore 40c load temp recorded my DigiDoc 5 thermal probe touching the core....
ambient rad intake temp is 29c


what was that u were saying???
I have a probe touching my core as well, it reads 7-10C COOLER than the on die reading, just keep that in mind.

eh?
07-07-02, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by vandersl
Threads like this drive me to distraction :mad:

First, Azzz, those are not real temps. Sorry, not possible, and posting them in a 'look at my temps' posts is just asking to be flamed.

FRAGN'STEIN - those are also not real temps. Do the math some day - you'll find that you need a bigger temp drop than that just to get the heat through the silicon in the core, much less through the WB, into the water, out of the water to the rad, and from the rad to the air.

Please poeple - I know you've all read posts about in-socket temps. Why do we continue to have 'mine is bigger than yours' posts?

The 'mine is bigger than yours' posts should be limited to O/C's only :beer: I agree with cw, he was just implying that his air cooling was as good as watercooling, thats all. and how do you know that he doesn't have a sensor right next to the core taking the temps? i bet if i had that heatsink in my basement with all my other computers then the temps would be about the same. and yes my watercooling temps are real

vandersl
07-07-02, 12:22 PM
With all due respect cw823, I'll stick by my opinion.

Temperature postings like the one's in this thread do no one any good. For every person reading this board that knows they are irrelevent and incomparable, there is another who reads it and says 'dang, why aren't my temps that low?' and goes out and spends time and money on upgrading their cooling solution to no avail.

While maybe the tone of my post was a little harsh, the point was valid.

rogerdugans
07-07-02, 12:31 PM
While I can respect the opinion, and agree that temp comparisons are of dubious accuracy for many reasons, I appreciate posts such as this: they are exactly what has spurred me to greater cooling efforts and trying new things.

I have seen people post temps from in-socket thermistors (which my mobo's use) of 55c with a stable system: I can't hit 50 and remain stable. Does that mean anything? Not really: systems differ in many ways, and comparisons between different PEOPLE applying thermal compound alone can make the result of a comparison invalid- but if it makes me re-think one of my cooling schemes and gain from it, fantastic!

Rotary-Motion
07-07-02, 12:42 PM
hi

I have not ryed one of these fans you mention! but i have just bought a fan from akasa 824 80mm or something with led's flashing blue. it runs at 2500rpms and the noise level is ok, the temps i get may be abit high compared to people on here but see what you think?

ambient 23/24c

idle 50c roughly

load about 57c roughly?

but i do have a asus board and i've heard that you must knock 10d off for a real indication is thids right on asus boards, please excuse my ignorance i'm a newbie to this...

thank all:)

cw823
07-07-02, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by vandersl
With all due respect cw823, I'll stick by my opinion.

Temperature postings like the one's in this thread do no one any good. For every person reading this board that knows they are irrelevent and incomparable, there is another who reads it and says 'dang, why aren't my temps that low?' and goes out and spends time and money on upgrading their cooling solution to no avail.

While maybe the tone of my post was a little harsh, the point was valid.



Whose place is it to say?

TonyMc
07-07-02, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by vandersl
Threads like this drive me to distraction :mad:

First, Azzz, those are not real temps. Sorry, not possible, and posting them in a 'look at my temps' posts is just asking to be flamed.

FRAGN'STEIN - those are also not real temps. Do the math some day - you'll find that you need a bigger temp drop than that just to get the heat through the silicon in the core, much less through the WB, into the water, out of the water to the rad, and from the rad to the air.

Please poeple - I know you've all read posts about in-socket temps. Why do we continue to have 'mine is bigger than yours' posts?

The 'mine is bigger than yours' posts should be limited to O/C's only :beer:

I'm reading mine off the core with a temp probe also. So what is so inaccurate about what I posted? I just posted what I was reading from my probes and don't appreciate being called a liar. If these types of posts bother you that much go play somewhere else.

Malakai
07-08-02, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by Compexpert
touching the core isnt the most accurate i would rather read the temps inside the core wich my mobo does :) sensors on it like u said are probly the second best but no the most accurat :)

to u and nikhsub, on die probes often dont give accurate temps.
Joe, Hoot, and others use thermal sensors touching the die, so thats how i post my temps.

but the stability of the o/c is the most important of all. i had this chipp running fine on a glaciator2 at 51c 1670mhz:), so temp isnt all important.


i hope noone mis interpreted my post as a flame, i was just kidding around:(

good o/c AZZKICKER, although unless its like 50f in your house, i doubt those temps are accurate.
and a request if noone minds, i think it should be a forum rule that all temps should be posted in celcius, im beggining to forget what the F even is anymore:P

cw823
07-08-02, 06:59 AM
Celcius? I say we post all water cooling temps in Kelvin

Originally posted by Malakai


to u and nikhsub, on die probes often dont give accurate temps.
Joe, Hoot, and others use thermal sensors touching the die, so thats how i post my temps.

but the stability of the o/c is the most important of all. i had this chipp running fine on a glaciator2 at 51c 1670mhz:), so temp isnt all important.


i hope noone mis interpreted my post as a flame, i was just kidding around:(

good o/c AZZKICKER, although unless its like 50f in your house, i doubt those temps are accurate.
and a request if noone minds, i think it should be a forum rule that all temps should be posted in celcius, im beggining to forget what the F even is anymore:P

rogerdugans
07-08-02, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by Malakai

but the stability of the o/c is the most important of all. i had this chipp running fine on a glaciator2 at 51c 1670mhz:), so temp isnt all important.Ditto

i think it should be a forum rule that all temps should be posted in celcius,
If someone tells me a computer temp in fahrenheit, I have no clue how hot it is running....I have to find my trusty conversion link.

But if someone says its 28c at their home- I have no idea how hot THAT is either.....I use celsius for computer temps, and fahrenheit for "people" temps: any time I have to convert one to the other.............:mad:

Silly, ain't it?

:D

Yodums
07-08-02, 07:40 AM
Originally posted by nikhsub1

How are you getting those temps? I guarantee you if you put your exact setup in a 8k3a that reads the on die sensor in the cpu your IDLE would be around 48-50C at 2V and load would be at about 60C. Don't trust the insocket thermistor if that is how you are taking your temps.

Yep, I just use my thermistor to give me an idea how hot my chip is. Oh well I don't keep MBM open anymore, I have it at stock.