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KeyboardCowboy
07-17-02, 08:57 AM
today, well, let's just say i was bored

so i decided that i was going to make ram sinks, seems like a good idea, right?

i have tons of heatsinks sitting around and decides that a adonized blue "Cooler Master" heat sink would work just fine, i took this from am old 133 pentium machine.

so i started to work taking the 60mm cooler master fan off, and made some measurements of the chips on my ram, as luck would have it, the sink's fins fit this design perfectly, so i made some marks and out came the dremel


first of all, i would like to say that i have never tried to cut through a heat sink before, this turned out to be difficult as well as extremly hot, after about 20-30 seconds of cutting with a reinforced cutting disk and my dremel on the highest speed setting the heat sink became too hot to hold, after about 15 mins of fighting with this heat sink i decided to give up, the heat sink had won, well not really, it was pretty well chewed up

i went beck to the drawing board, my pool table, trying to come up with another solution to my hot ram delema (spelling?)

after about 15 mins of thinking i gave up, but then i stumble across this while i was looking for high flow 80mm fans...


http://www.e-compuvision.com/products_detail.asp?id=129&section1=memorycool&section2=thermaltake

it's pretty cheap, and i will get a discount if i buy 2, i was wondering if anyone had any experience with this?, good or bad?, let me know

thanks

FIZZ3
07-17-02, 09:25 AM
Not much to gain with ramsinks: first of all they do almost nothing for performance or cooling, secondly they are all alu 'shrouds' with a color... thus probably performing pretty much alike.

On that ramsinks deal: if you're set on having sinks... there is nothing wrong with that product imho.

Kid Payne
07-17-02, 04:53 PM
http://svcompucycle.com/therddrheats.html

and here

http://www.bestbyte.net/Product.cfm?ProductID=224&CategoryID=6&Keyword=

I've made over 10 online purchases with these 2 vendors combined and they are two of the best with service, shipping, and integrity IMHO.

KeyboardCowboy
07-17-02, 05:13 PM
Kid Payne, the site that i quoted is a canadian one (i live in canada), the site you linked to is an american site, the prices work out to be the same , and probally more for the american one, due to shipping costs


FIZZ, i know that there isin;t that much to gain from ram sinks, but i am in the process of building a computer that will have to go without upgrades for a long time, because i am going to collage in the fall, so i want everything to be rock stable, if it will help out a few degrees, then for 14 bucks, it;s worth it to me

hellrazrblade
07-17-02, 07:41 PM
i have that active memory cooler from Tt, but i kinda doubt it does anything but sit there and look cooler... i almost wonder if it doesnt make the ram hotter because of the thermal tape and spreader as opposed to being exposed to my case's pretty good airflow oh, a link if you havent ever seen it:
http://www.case-mod.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=21_25&products_id=43

drunkmonkey
07-17-02, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by hellrazrblade
i have that active memory cooler from Tt, but i kinda doubt it does anything but sit there and look cooler...
lol, that probably is all they do, I should get a temp probe and measure the difference between cooloer and no cooler. I got the acive kit also.

hellrazrblade
07-18-02, 01:11 AM
although our active mem cooler's are probably minimally effective, i think those sinks would help alot, cowboy

obliv
07-18-02, 02:39 AM
the Tt active memory kit is good with the 40mm fan over the ram. I noted a good 7 degree drop on the ram. Although those plates do nothing but look good, the fan helps. Imo use the kit and some ramsinks and ull be maxed in ram cooling.

Friend
07-18-02, 02:57 AM
The Tt plates help out 2-3f and the active set with the 40mm 8cfm fan helps mo' better...about 8f I have read. It seems to make no difference with overclockability but cooler ram can't hurt and the setup does look schweet :cool:

-=UR=- Ranger
07-18-02, 05:08 AM
If I had to use or make ramsinks, I would hack up some old heatsink as keyboard cowboy tried. If would cut it in peices which fit the ram and attach them with arctic silver exposy. The Airflow in the case will do the rest, and it will cost you next to nothing...


Keyboard Cowboy: Next time just use a jigsaw or a bandsaw to cut the heatsink. It worked perfectly when I made ramsinks for my videocard...

Neco
07-18-02, 05:16 AM
Instead of looking at what it does in terms of "tempurate" what about looking at overall net effect ??

Can you O/C your ram higher with those extra few degrees shaven off your temps ?? yes/no ?? I think that's the real question we should ask..

I've never heard of the active kit actually aiding in anyones overclocking in a substantial way

HaywirE
07-20-02, 04:49 PM
Manufactuer's like kingston, etc need to start putting ramsinks on. How hot does ram usually get? Sheesh, especially IBM =o

simon389
07-20-02, 07:23 PM
im watercooling my ram

Friend
07-21-02, 01:13 AM
Watercooling is truly extreme! It may even lead to a viable extra overclock...but I wonder if it is cost effective? you will get another 10 MHz I would guess at the cost of the blocks and the tube clutter....

I would just get better ram.

as far as cutting up heatsinks...I have done that but youre screwed if you have multiple stick of ram. If you got one big stick of Ram...why not! it couldn't hurt and it might help.

drunkmonkey
07-22-02, 12:03 AM
ram actually get pretty got, mine @150fsb was quite hot to the touch

parkan
07-22-02, 12:21 AM
Well, supercooling it will definetely yield a higher overclock, in addition to reduced latency and errors. I am not sure how much my active kit is helping, although it does make me more confident about overvolting the ram.

webmedic
07-22-02, 12:43 AM
I've got my ram pretty ooverclocked on my epox and the volts are way up there. I noticed that my ram way mighty waarm to the touch so I put mu active cooler back on it. I don't notice any more stability but I'm sure it has to be running cooler than before.

Friend
07-22-02, 01:57 AM
Cooler IS bettah!

a1cnolan
07-22-02, 02:31 AM
i know im all new and all. i thought those heat spreasers look sweet. i was overclocking my pos. i noticed that my power supply was way hot and not amd approced(underside vents) also the ram was way close to the processor.i repositioned a fan i had in the bottom of my case to run directly up the case over the heat spreaders i bought and up to the vents in the back of the powersupply. it worked bery well. while i wasn't able to oc any higher. my stability was definitly improved. i think it really depends on your personal situations. if your pc is a big hunk of metal like mine is and you want to make it more functional it may help.if you already have really good cooling then it may not. id say to just look at where you are at. i can see hwo some people probably wouldn't see and incredible drop me personally. with the fan redirected and the heat spreaders i dropped about 5-8 degrees on my mobo temps. aybe the copper helped stop heat from the power supply don't know it just helped.imho

a1cnolan
07-22-02, 02:32 AM
oh my god i cannot type. shouldve previewed that one.sorry for the stutter

Friend
07-22-02, 02:46 AM
we dont need no stinking spell chekers here!!!

MajinSSJVegetto
07-22-02, 03:42 AM
When hacking through heatsinks, use a hold done clamp, and a hacksaw!

I can cut through a 3/4" thick piece of copper in no time with a hacksaw.
The copper gets HOT.
You have to have the copper very steady. If it moves around it ruins your effiency.

I am going to buy like $60 of copper to make PSU, HD, GPU, and chipset blocks, so I might as well add in a tad to cool the memory!
Glad I remembered that=) I have been planning on buying a bunch of copper, for like 2 weeks, without once thinking of my ram!

The one thing I am worried about is size.
For now I am using one 512meg PC2700 DDR ram stick. That leaves some room for a HS without thinking of space. But if I get another stick... I will be down to almost no room at all.

Friend
07-22-02, 04:01 AM
They include copper heat-spreaders on some hi performance memory but I have never seen it available from a vendor...anybody seen it on sale??

ajrettke
07-22-02, 08:08 AM
My old crucial PC2100 wouldn't do over 155 max timigs, but once I put on TT actives I got 162....(this was with Vmem maxed on the old 8k7a....think that might have been 3.0v) So they definetly work, my current sammy i don't know high it quits, after 200 fsb my AGP freq is too high and I can't see anything on the monitor. I can do 200 with 2.8vmem and no sinks...

I think buy one set of actives is worth it, What I would do if I needed to would be use arctic alumina and put the heatsinks on on side then the spreaer with fan on the other (if you only got 1 stick like me :)) If you care about color, you can get the actives in like all red, black or blue if you don't like orange :cool:

good luck