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Nforcer
07-19-02, 12:03 PM
Want to order one of these blocks today - any experience with either of them??

will be powered by a via aqua 1300 and cooled by heater core

thanks

nikhsub1
07-19-02, 12:42 PM
I think the swifty block is better. I have one, not the UH but I would put my money on the swifty slapping the Maze 3 around like a ragdoll.:D

JFettig
07-19-02, 01:18 PM
maze 3 does better than the swifty with the little barbs, not the 1/2inch ones.. but i dont know about with the 1/2in barbs...

Inept
07-19-02, 01:41 PM
You could make a Swiftech block for way less money than they charge. It's a copper plate with dimples in it! Please!

JFettig
07-19-02, 02:19 PM
lol thats pretty much it, and it has mounting holes, you cant forget them;)

they really should make the body out of acrylic!

Malakai
07-19-02, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by nikhsub1
I think the swifty block is better. I have one, not the UH but I would put my money on the swifty slapping the Maze 3 around like a ragdoll.:D

yep i agree.

with very low flow, maze3 prolly does better. but anything over 300gph, and the maze gets 0wned.


they really should make the body out of acrylic!

NO

to leak prone. no matter how pretty it may be, i prefer function over form. and a solid metal block sealed to a solid copper plate is much more resistant to leaks, cracking, and any other problems that i see with Maze3's.

Nforcer
07-19-02, 02:26 PM
cool - thanks guys

swifty it is with 1/2" barbs =)

and a via pump

(i just got done my first attempt at a shroud made of plexi)

not as easy as i thought it would be =)

schoolie
07-19-02, 02:30 PM
Have any good measurements to prove that the Swifty 0wnz the MAZE3, please?

Personally, I don't 0wn either, so it could very well be true. However, people spend their money based on these posts.

Nforcer
07-19-02, 02:34 PM
in all honesty i think that all of these newer water blocks perform very close to each other (maze3 vs swifty vs dtek etc etc)

and really there isnt a horrible one vs any of the others - probably more variance from setup to setup than block to block !

i was leaning towards the swifty for a while and i think if you can feed it lots of flow it will perform

so will the maze

so will the spiral

etc etc

Breadfan
07-19-02, 02:38 PM
Well its tough to compare them, mainly becuase any comparisons are made with different pumps, tubing sizes and lengths, and radiators. That won't give accurate results for comparison...

It'd be nice to see a good Maze3 review for comparison. I'm waiting on mine, and will post experiences with it when I have it running, but even then I don't think that would be a valid way of comparing it to the swifty.

What we need is someone to get both and compare it on the same system head to head...but then theres that whole "money" thing, lol...

Mike

JFettig
07-19-02, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by Malakai


yep i agree.

with very low flow, maze3 prolly does better. but anything over 300gph, and the maze gets 0wned.




NO

to leak prone. no matter how pretty it may be, i prefer function over form. and a solid metal block sealed to a solid copper plate is much more resistant to leaks, cracking, and any other problems that i see with Maze3's.

ok i said this rong, Polycarbonite is what it should be made out of, that stuff doesnt crap out does it???

-edit- i dont know why i bring this up, but it would look cooler, and not having to anodize it...

schoolie
07-19-02, 02:46 PM
I agree, they're all pretty close. What we need for testing is a graph of pressure drop versus flowrate and a graph of delta T versus flowrate. That should tell people more than one set of measurements. I also realize that reproducible results are almost impossible:)

Enjoy your new block!

Malakai
07-19-02, 11:05 PM
well, i just base my opinion on the design's of the block and how well the Swifty runs in my system.

the Maze has small channels and is pretty resrtictive to the flow.

the swifty has wide open 1/2 inch intake and exaust openings, with little restriction in between besides where the water blows in on top of the core.

i get good flowrate and excellent temps with the swifty, so it gets a thumbs up from me.


i dont like those dinky little Maze3 or spiral blocks, IMO they try to hard to be cute.
like i said function over form

JFettig
07-19-02, 11:19 PM
i agree but some people are form over function....

but i cant say im either, i make some pretty functional blocks, and i just made a pure acrylic body and a copper based block... so who knows... im mostly function over form...

this last one i made is pretty much just for fun....

tripwire
07-19-02, 11:57 PM
so, is the Swiftech more function based, and the Maze3 more form?!

JFettig
07-20-02, 10:01 AM
actualy the maze 3 is a pretty good block its rite along side with the swiftech block, just with the little hose, but if you stick the 1/2 fittings on the swiftblock its better. so i do suggest the swifty, unless you want to get a maze, if you get the maze get the copper top

MilhouseOfHoror
07-20-02, 10:24 AM
would the copper top lower temps as well as decrease risk of leakage? It is more copper contact area after all...

JFettig
07-20-02, 10:27 AM
i doubt it would lower temps, it may dissipate a LITTLE heat from the water, but yes it would not leak especially if they would solder it on... but the O ring will hold the leaks back its is very unlikely to leak with the O ring

Malakai
07-20-02, 04:01 PM
i kinda have to worry about any block that sells replacement seals and cover's (how DD sells the lexan top replacements).

it just seems better to get a solid metal block.

like maskedgeek said, get the metal top soldered on. MUCH safer IMO