View Full Version : What will fold faster, P3-450 or Celeron 500?
nikhsub1
07-20-02, 04:41 PM
What will fold faster, P3-450 or Celeron 500? Well? What do you think?
new_novice
07-20-02, 04:52 PM
i'd say the CEL
gtsimmo
07-20-02, 05:02 PM
The cel might because of the extra 50 mhz plus the full speed of the L2 cache. Also i think it overclocks better
JetMech
07-20-02, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by nikhsub1
What will fold faster, P3-450 or Celeron 500? Well? What do you think? Back in the day it was found that a Celey 300A oc'd to 450 was very close to a PII 450. This was due to the fact that the 300A's 128K L2 cache ran at full FSB while the PII 450's 512K L2 cache ran a fraction of that. The PIII 450 however has it's L2 running at full system bus so I would guess that it would be the better folder.:beer: :burn:
gtsimmo
07-20-02, 05:08 PM
i think only the coppermine P3's L2 run at full CPU speed. And the regular Slot 1 pent 3's run at half speed.
Tweaked!
07-20-02, 05:10 PM
My celly 500 isn't doing too bad... O/c'ed to 600, can't get no more out of it because of the rest of the components in that rig.
It was a p// 266 in a 440lx mobo, now with a celly500 and socket 370 to slot adapter. Does the p3 450 have the 512k or 256k? Does that really matter? I'm pretty sure the celly is the 256k, right?
gtsimmo
07-20-02, 05:32 PM
i think the cel's are only 128kb (full speed), with pent 3 coppermines at 256 kb (full speed), and the first generation pent 3 at 512 kb (Half Speed). I remember those cause the L2 is not built into the CPU and instead was on the PCB that the CPU was built into.
Edit: I have a slot 1 pent3 and a socket 370 pent 4 so im certain about those. The celeron i use to have i sold but i think they were 128kb
Not so sure about this...my PII 400 beats the pants off my Celly 466.
gtsimmo
07-20-02, 06:43 PM
Oh by the way Jon Happy 29th Birthday
muddocktor
07-20-02, 08:55 PM
The slowest coppermine P3 is a 500 FCPGA so your P3 450 is definitely a Katmai .25 micron process cpu, and the most realistic speed you will be able to get out of it will probably be around 600 mhz max, due to the off-die cache speed and core design. The celery 500 is also built on a .25 micron process, which will most probably limit you to around a max of 600 mhz also. The celery does have 128k of on-die cache running at full speed, so I imagine that it would be a tossup on which one to use. You will probably have more luck oc'ing the P3 because most mobo's will have a 1/4 pci multiplier that will kick in around 124 mhz, if it's a board that allows fsb speed selection.
Originally posted by gtsimmo
Oh by the way Jon Happy 29th Birthday
Thanks! :D
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