View Full Version : OK, Revised help - with first boot for 1st self built pc!
MSI KT3 Ultra
athlon xp 2100+
volcano 7+ heatsink
Thanks for all the help i have recieved already, i just changed the jumper on the cmos for 5 minutes, changed it back then tried it again - still 4 red lights, no beeps. cpu! :(
Ok, now people have been saying remove the battery - which one? where from? please tell me and ill try again!
Also what should i do, how can the cpu have been fried!? i put thermal grease on and when i managed to get to the POST screen it seemed to have registered it - but then the monitor cut out and the green light went to orange on the monitor.
I have an amd xp 2100+ - what should i do if the cpu really is messed up!? i bought it from pc world in the uk!?
also at the POST screen it registered an amd xp 1500 cpu - someone mentioned i have to change a setting in the bios to correct this but could i blag my way into getting a new cpu from pc world!?
also some other problems:
my heatsink is clipped dpwn - i did put thermal grease on the core. The heatsink isnt screwed down though, cause the holes didnt align - does this sound ok??
07-28-02, 03:58 PM
You should try to keep this in one post. I don't see how the battery could be the problem but it is entirely possible that your HSF is on wrong and your chip is fried. When you get the HSF off and take the cpu out look at it to see if there are any obvious scorch marks. Ive seen the lettering from the core scorched into the base of the heatsink believe they need to be kept cool especially the more power you run though it. The higher the Mhz the hotter it will run is a good rule of thumb there are exceptions including .15 versus .13 micron die but you're trying to get your pc to run. Not every burnt out cpu will be scorched but at least its a start. Now that you have reset your cmos you have at least narrowed the problem down. If you could get your hands on another duron, tbird or xp that would help you diagnose it further.
Its' entirely possible that just putting the HSF on correctly with good alignment might be the fix you need. Hope so.
07-28-02, 04:10 PM
Listen... If you had your HSF on the wrong way it is more than likely that your 2100+ is kaputt (dead). When you power on your system and the processor is not being cooled by the HSF it will fry in no more than five seconds. I fried a 1GHZ Duron this way. I hope that the processor came with a warranty. Was it bought in a retail box by any chance (in a box with AMD approved HSF and the little sticker that goes on your case)? If it was then you should have a nice AMD 3 year warranty on it. The reason you had the 1500+ show up in the bios rather than your 2100+ is that you must change the FSB setting of your processor to 133.
Is the processor making any noise? The 1 GHZ Duron I fried was making a buzzing noise when the system was powered on...
ive just got the heatsink off and looked at the cpu - it seems ok, no obvious marks at all, the thermal grease looked as if it was ok - marked on botht he core and nicely on the heatsink.
I installed the heatsink according to the instructions
i have a KT3 ULtra motherboard -
the instructions i had were for socket 370/462 - they involved no big clips or screws on the motherboard - just a centre bit which clipped won on the cpu bit.
or instructions for socket 478 which used loads clips, screws etc. - i was right in choosing the Socket 370/462 instructions right?
i bought it from pc world - in a brown box! uh oh!
what should i do now, - my parents bought it for me and have already chipped out loadsa money - they rnt gonna be to impressed!
07-28-02, 04:40 PM
If you had the HSF on the wrong way the first time you powered up your computer it is more than likely that the processor is gone.
The processor is probably gone. Call or e-mail the store you bought it from and find out what their warranty/return policy is see if you can get them to exchange it for a new one. Did the box the Processor came in look anything like this one?
ok im gonna try and blag my way through it tomorrow! i suppose
it didnt come in that, but i will make a deal out of it - tell them that they never said no warranty is on it etc etc, try and get a new one out of it!
all i can do is hope!
07-28-02, 04:44 PM
Ok, I hope everything works out fine. Best of luck to ya!
by the way one little bit of help again,
witht he heatsink for some reason their r two wires that come out.
one which also connects to the power from the power supply - that has a brown bit which connects to the motherboard (has a few wires going into the borwn bit)
and the other is just yellow single wire has a white bit that cionnects to the MB. which one should go were - do they both connect??
please reply, thanks.
07-28-02, 05:29 PM
Ya kinda lost me there but I'm pretty sure that they all have to be connected. The 3-pin one should go into the motherboard and if there is another one that plugs into one of those PSU connectors you should hook it up. I assume those are the wires that power the fan on top of the heatsink?
07-28-02, 05:33 PM
Does this HSF fit both Socket 478 AND 370/462? If it is then I think the brown 3-pin conncetor goes into your motherboard and the other one is if you have a P4. As long as the fan on the HSF is running you are OK.
i have just put the single yellow one into the CFAN and then the others i have connected to the power supply cables and then ran that into the PSFAN connector on the motherborad - b4 i was running it the other way round?
07-28-02, 05:52 PM
You will be OK as long as the fan is running and is pushing air INTO the heatsink.
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