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Maxvla

07-31-02, 03:48 AM

well this is my first forum surf on the new puter!

I've gotta say i love it. :D
I've been playing games all night messing around with the ti4400 :D

it took me quite a while to put it together only because the board would not boot. i spent about an hour tearing it down and putting everything in again and again. then about the third time i noticed a strange little plug that looked like a power plug of some kind. now being an AMD user for forever i didn't realize the P4 boards have TWO power connectors!!!! WTF is up with that? haha. so yeah i'm a little :o about it, but oh well. it'll make for a good laugh for all you guys.

my msi 4400 came with like 9 discs of stuff including a few games. that aquanox game is quite spectacular. i also enjoyed watching the infamous nature scene for the first time in 3dmark. :D i am floored at the quality in that benchmark. i don't know why more game companies aren't using that technology. it looks amazing.

at completely stock settings all the way around i scored a 8466 or 8646 can't remember. i am on the stock heatsink right now so i'm not really going to push it much. but i'll work over the vid card pretty soon. like i really need to :D

i guess its time to update the old siggy.

micamica1217

07-31-02, 04:15 AM

congrats max,

hey you do know you can run your 1.6a at 133fsb with stock HSF?

your temps will be ok...and if your scared, just turn on the A.C....you will be fine.

no extra voltage needed.

mica

Rasputin'sLiver

07-31-02, 05:09 AM

Originally posted by Maxvla
well this is my first forum surf on the new puter!

I've gotta say i love it. :D
I've been playing games all night messing around with the ti4400 :D

it took me quite a while to put it together only because the board would not boot. i spent about an hour tearing it down and putting everything in again and again. then about the third time i noticed a strange little plug that looked like a power plug of some kind. now being an AMD user for forever i didn't realize the P4 boards have TWO power connectors!!!! WTF is up with that? haha. so yeah i'm a little :o about it, but oh well. it'll make for a good laugh for all you guys.

CONGRAUTULATIONS! :clap: :beer: i'm glad the computer is working great!

i don't know how many times i've built a computer over and over again because one thing wasn't plugged in. a week ago i went nuts over a video card that wasn't seated all the way. messed with the dam computer for an hour before i figured it out.

like mica said it'll run cool with out breaking a sweat at 133 at stock voltage. i wouldn't be surprised if you couldn't kick it all the way to 177mhz (gasp) at some point with very few extra volts. thats what the later chips have been doing!:D

good job, dude!

texasfit

07-31-02, 05:40 AM

i guess its time to update the old siggy.

Congrats Max on your new PC. :) Don't you just hate all those new funny looking connectors hanging out of those power supplies. You got to wonder where to stick um.

Hey, post your chip data and start punching that new baby on up there. Don't forget to change your siggy as you go. :D

Rasputin'sLiver

07-31-02, 05:45 AM

Originally posted by texasfit

Congrats Max on your new PC. :) Don't you just hate all those new funny looking connectors hanging out of those power supplies. You got to wonder where to stick um.

Hey, post your chip data and start punching that new baby on up there. Don't forget to change your siggy as you go. :D

john - you have a real nice 1.8a @2.7 @ a mere 1.6v. we've talked about the voltage issue before, but what will yours do at 1.65v? i'll bet you can get 2.8+ outta it. man i'm greedy!;)

texasfit

07-31-02, 05:57 AM

Originally posted by Rasputin'sLiver

john - you have a real nice 1.8a @2.7 @ a mere 1.6v. we've talked about the voltage issue before, but what will yours do at 1.65v? i'll bet you can get 2.8+ outta it. man i'm greedy!;) Yea, Ras it will actually go a little over 2.8 with 1.65v but the memory won't cut the 3:4 timing ratio.

I have really been reconsidering going ahead and doing the Vmod. If I could run at 166fsb, 1:1 then I believe my overall system performance would be better. ;)

Also, been wondering about this new Corsair XMSPC3200-C2 stuff they released yesterday. Now if it could do say, DDR440 that would be something. :beer:

Demont

07-31-02, 06:14 AM

Originally posted by Maxvla
i also enjoyed watching the infamous nature scene for the first time in 3dmark. :D i am floored at the quality in that benchmark. i don't know why more game companies aren't using that technology. it looks amazing.

i was disillusioned with the nature demo when i noticed the leaves on the trees are these little 2d thingies that just swing back and forth. look at the top of the trees you will notice it =)

CSHawkeye81

07-31-02, 08:51 AM

have fun with your little toy and welcome back to the dark side!! ehhe:D

Maxvla

07-31-02, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by CSHawkeye81
have fun with your little toy and welcome back to the dark side!! ehhe:D
thanks everyone... and i haven't been on the dark side since 486 days.

not only am i on the stock hs/f i forgot the AS3 so im riding on thermal pad only for now. i'll try a few more mhz bump and check out my temps.

this is completely stock:
http://members.directvinternet.com/maxvla/tempvolt.jpg

jdmcnudgent

07-31-02, 11:03 AM

congrats buddie, pump that sucker up.:D

Maxvla

07-31-02, 11:11 AM

whats the vio on that winbond hardware tool? it seems very low. will this hinder me? the rest of the voltages look spot on.

Maxvla

07-31-02, 11:35 AM

ok i'm at 133mhz FSB 2.136 ghz on the intel stock cooler with just the thermal pad and my load temp is about 49.5 degrees while folding :) its superstable too.

micamica1217

07-31-02, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by Maxvla
ok i'm at 133mhz FSB 2.136 ghz on the intel stock cooler with just the thermal pad and my load temp is about 49.5 degrees while folding :) its superstable too.

looking very good.

your temps and voltages are right were they should be.

seems you have a bd7II...so your temps are realy lower.;)

again, congrats.

mica

texasfit

07-31-02, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by Maxvla
ok i'm at 133mhz FSB 2.136 ghz on the intel stock cooler with just the thermal pad and my load temp is about 49.5 degrees while folding :) its superstable too. Outstanding, and we assume that this is still at default voltages.

And who is this gorgeous model that keeps changing poses and outfits in your avatar.

larva

07-31-02, 06:24 PM

I ordered a volcano 7+ (piece of ish...) with my P4 rig thinking the stock cooler was useless. My chip produced temps in the high 40s with the volcano, but only 44C with the stock cooler, minus the stock interface material, plus some normal white thermal grease. I fitted the volcano several times, but each time the temps rose and stability lessened. And the noise....

I now run 1.575V at 2400MHz with an intel cooler and normal thermal paste for 45C max temps during quake3 marathons. Comparing reported temps from one rig to another is worthless, expecially since the board is another makers. But it does point out that the retail coolers do fine if your chip really has 2400MHz in it :D

I'd get a swiftech if you really want a clear improvement over stock. I'll probably get one when boredom sets in, but in reality the stock one is fine for me.

Wiggin

07-31-02, 07:05 PM

If I was you I'd remove the thermal pad sooner then later. If you read the arctic silver 3 instructions on their webpage it says that after you use the thermal pad the wax heats up and melts into the microscopic holes that the arctic silver is supposed to be filling up to increase conductivity. Great computer so far though, can't wait to see how far it goes for you. :D

Maxvla

07-31-02, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by Wiggin
If I was you I'd remove the thermal pad sooner then later. If you read the arctic silver 3 instructions on their webpage it says that after you use the thermal pad the wax heats up and melts into the microscopic holes that the arctic silver is supposed to be filling up to increase conductivity. Great computer so far though, can't wait to see how far it goes for you. :D
but thats why i'll be lapping the heatsink :)

AZN

07-31-02, 08:45 PM

Originally posted by larva
I ordered a volcano 7+ (piece of ish...) with my P4 rig thinking the stock cooler was useless. My chip produced temps in the high 40s with the volcano, but only 44C with the stock cooler, minus the stock interface material, plus some normal white thermal grease. I fitted the volcano several times, but each time the temps rose and stability lessened. And the noise....

I now run 1.575V at 2400MHz with an intel cooler and normal thermal paste for 45C max temps during quake3 marathons. Comparing reported temps from one rig to another is worthless, expecially since the board is another makers. But it does point out that the retail coolers do fine if your chip really has 2400MHz in it :D

I'd get a swiftech if you really want a clear improvement over stock. I'll probably get one when boredom sets in, but in reality the stock one is fine for me.
I agree, my volcano7+ is flying out the door as soon as my ax478 comes in the mail.;)

AZN

07-31-02, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by Maxvla
it took me quite a while to put it together only because the board would not boot. i spent about an hour tearing it down and putting everything in again and again. then about the third time i noticed a strange little plug that looked like a power plug of some kind. now being an AMD user for forever i didn't realize the P4 boards have TWO power connectors!!!! WTF is up with that? haha. so yeah i'm a little :o about it, but oh well. it'll make for a good laugh for all you guys..
darn rookies;) JK:D
when i first saw that plug, i was like wtf is this??? but i saw a spot for it, so i plugged it in...
I think u can get up to 140fsb with the same hsf. comon, no guts no glory.:D
remember maxvla, u have to beat my 3dmark scores. 12028 is my number to beat. and u have a ti4400.;)

Rasputin'sLiver

07-31-02, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by NO1

darn rookies;) JK:D
when i first saw that plug, i was like wtf is this??? but i saw a spot for it, so i plugged it in...
I think u can get up to 140fsb with the same hsf. comon, no guts no glory.:D
remember maxvla, u have to beat my 3dmark scores. 12028 is my number to beat. and u have a ti4400.;)

yeah, he is being a bit tentative. let's push him into the water or he'll never swim, no1!;)

Maxvla

07-31-02, 09:45 PM

:yawn:

bbiab. rebooting :) among other things :D

AZN

07-31-02, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by Maxvla
:yawn:

bbiab. rebooting :) among other things :D
I hope he is rebooting to a higher FSB;)

Maxvla

07-31-02, 09:52 PM

i changed it to 140 and winders wouldn't load. some error.

larva

07-31-02, 10:05 PM

Originally posted by Maxvla
i changed it to 140 and winders wouldn't load. some error.
Remove the stock thermal pad (barrier?) and put some real paste on the cpu. Up the cpu voltage to 1.6V. Set the ram to 1:1, relax the ram timing (2.5,4,4,7 -2T). 150FSB should be easy. What is the pack date on your chip? I would expect 160FSB to feasible with your setup, I know one guy running 173... but with more voltage than I'd like.

Rasputin'sLiver

07-31-02, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by Maxvla
i changed it to 140 and winders wouldn't load. some error.

just needs some more volts. don't be afraid. you're board only goes to 1.70 and that's not going to hurt the chip! go for it!:beer:

Rasputin'sLiver

07-31-02, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by Maxvla
i changed it to 140 and winders wouldn't load. some error.

btw... like the new babe a lot! WOOOOOT!:burn:

cw823

07-31-02, 10:19 PM

Well, I clicked on the thread, but I now know I DON'T want to in the future :D

Rasputin'sLiver

07-31-02, 10:30 PM

Originally posted by cw823
Well, I clicked on the thread, but I now know I DON'T want to in the future :D

ROFLOL! c'mon man. help us get this guy overclocking!:D

AZN

07-31-02, 10:43 PM

update, he is at over 140fsb. with about 1.62v and temps are OK;)
I'll push him to go for 150fsb;)

Maxvla

08-01-02, 12:07 AM

ok. now i'm stable at 2320mhz 145fsb 1.68v 44.50 idle 55.00 folding (just about tops with current cooling)

video is at 320/625 (still room to grow)

current tops is 11436 (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4090168) on 3dmark

AZN

08-01-02, 01:23 AM

micamica1217

08-01-02, 04:18 AM

Originally posted by Maxvla
ok. now i'm stable at 2320mhz 145fsb 1.68v 44.50 idle 55.00 folding (just about tops with current cooling)

video is at 320/625 (still room to grow)

current tops is 11436 (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4090168) on 3dmark

ok max,

stay at this speed....your temps are still ok, but with out an ax-478 or other cooler you will only volt the crap out of your chip...and temps will go through the roof.

this will spell death to your nice little puppy.

it's time to chill...both you and your cpu.

very nice OC

with a quiet fan and a good HS, you should hit 155FSB quite easy.

mica

cw823

08-01-02, 06:08 AM

Originally posted by micamica1217

ok max,

stay at this speed....your temps are still ok, but with out an ax-478 or other cooler you will only volt the crap out of your chip...and temps will go through the roof.

this will spell death to your nice little puppy.

it's time to chill...both you and your cpu.

very nice OC

with a quiet fan and a good HS, you should hit 155FSB quite easy.

mica

I would agree. I'd kill the overclock for now. Wait till you get some adequate cooling, and crank her up again. It will be worth the wait.

Rasputin'sLiver

08-01-02, 06:18 AM

Originally posted by cw823

I would agree. I'd kill the overclock for now. Wait till you get some adequate cooling, and crank her up again. It will be worth the wait.

i'm wondering if there's any mod that can be done to the retail intel heatsink. the heatsink looks okay, but the fan is cheap looking and slow. but it also looks very proprietary. has anyone put a more powerful fan onto the retail or performed any other mod?:eh?: maybe max can get back into the oc game sooner with a better retail since he was going to hold off for a while before getting the better cooler.....

texasfit

08-01-02, 06:38 AM

Originally posted by Maxvla
ok. now i'm stable at 2320mhz 145fsb 1.68v 44.50 idle 55.00 folding (just about tops with current cooling)

video is at 320/625 (still room to grow)

current tops is 11436 (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4090168) on 3dmark Those temps are actually pretty good. The chip should run higher fsb with very little temp change.

The voltage increases the temps more than the fsb. I get almost the same 40C temp (+ or minus 1-2C) at idle regardless of fsb 145/150/155. Full load is the same variation with fsb changes except around 50C.

Rasputin'sLiver

08-01-02, 06:56 AM