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OC-Master
08-01-02, 06:00 PM
http://www.guru3d.com/cgi-bin/newspro/viewnews.cgi?newsid1028233185,3718,

16MB Buffers! LOL

Hope thats enough for you!


DS-Master

jreinsma
08-01-02, 06:09 PM
place a couple of those in raid in a sff computer!!!

BigRed
08-01-02, 06:35 PM
SLOW!
only 5400 rpm :rolleyes:

parkan
08-01-02, 08:14 PM
Whaaa?

"Toshiba launches 60GB, 2.5-inch hard drive with world’s fastest rotation speed -"

"..disk drive with a disk rotation speed of 5,400 rpm."

eh?

Also, I don't think 16 MB buffer is really practical.

Xaotic
08-01-02, 08:15 PM
Remember these are laptop drives.

It's not that bad and it's much better than most 2.5" drives. The 5400 rpm drives started manufacture last year and the high end drives got the 8MB buffers at about the same time that the WD Limiteds came out. Prior to that it was 4200 rpms. With a little luck the 7200 rpm drives will come out with the 16MB cache this late this year or the beginning of the next.

Penguin4x4
08-02-02, 11:43 AM
Seagate U160 180s anyone? 16MB Cache, 10,000 RPM, 180GB, 7.4ms acces time. :D :D

Vovan
08-03-02, 09:14 PM
How much $´s?

---X---
08-03-02, 10:28 PM
$1100-1200 per drive :rolleyes:

Vovan
09-30-02, 12:09 PM
Cheap...

RoadWarrior
09-30-02, 03:55 PM
Can you still get caching controllers? back in the day there were SCSI qnd IDE RAID controllers with SIMM slots on, now if you had a nice ultra SCSI 160 with a 128Mb DIMM on it, and RAID spanning over 4 disks, you'd have your disk system running faster than some peoples RAM LOL.

Actually, my 5400 ATA66 15G WD is faster than the RAM on some of my old socket 7 boards. :D

Road Warrior

AmigoThree
09-30-02, 06:16 PM
Sweet only a grand each for those seagates? I'll buy 8!

POL-tec2002
09-30-02, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by ---X---
$1100-1200 per drive :rolleyes:

too much $ for me

Spec_Ops2087
09-30-02, 07:44 PM
theoritaclly(SP) I have 16MB cache....2 Western Digitals with 8MB cahce each:D

Those sound yummy but that 5,400 makes me say EWWWWWWW



Spec

Sniper_83
10-01-02, 07:35 AM
Originally posted by BigRed
SLOW!
only 5400 rpm :rolleyes:

Yea but at that size it stacks up to the larger drives that run 7,200 rpms.

arkan
10-01-02, 06:21 PM
with those laptop drives only running at 5400 rpm the 16 meg buffer helps make up for the added access time of the lower rpms

BaldHeadedDork
10-02-02, 03:55 AM
Originally posted by RoadWarrior
Can you still get caching controllers? back in the day there were SCSI qnd IDE RAID controllers with SIMM slots on, now if you had a nice ultra SCSI 160 with a 128Mb DIMM on it, and RAID spanning over 4 disks, you'd have your disk system running faster than some peoples RAM LOL.

Road Warrior

That's a great question. Obviously, the answer is no-I haven't seen a caching controller in years. (And had honestly forgotten about them.)

But why not? Being able to plug in a DIMM of DDR-RAM would be sweet, But if that wasn't fast enough (that's the only reason it wouldn't work that I can think of) someone could build a controller board with, say, 64MB of that BGA DDR being used on some of the Ti4200 cards.

Anyone know why either wouldn't work?


BHD

Xaotic
10-02-02, 04:38 AM
Caching controllers are still available for both IDE and SCSI RAID units. The 3ware Escalade series has IDE caching and writes entire stripes from cache, but I doubt the RAM is upgradable. Most of the higher level SCSI RAID controllers utilize caching as well and more RAM can often be added. With regard to memory speed, you'd have to check the individual manufacturers since the onboard processors tend to be slower and may not support DDR.

FireMogle
10-03-02, 11:29 PM
My scsi controller has 8mb cache onboard, its raid, and when the sytem is up and running will be spanning 9 7200 rpm drives. And no, I dont belive in overkill.