View Full Version : Trident gets into the fray!
Mr Snub
08-05-02, 04:30 PM
The Daily Post (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1673)
80% of the performance of a ti 4600. Sign Me Up!:D
Dreamkiller
08-05-02, 04:44 PM
I had an 8-Meg trident AGP once. Then it sucked so much so i was forced to replace it with a geforce256. Haha.
Silversinksam
08-05-02, 05:12 PM
The true judge will be when its actually reviewed.
The proof is in the pudding, but there's no pudding on the table ;)
rlemieux
08-05-02, 06:34 PM
Wheres the pudding? Is it chocolate pudding? I like pudding. Maybe Ill go make me some now:)
Trident! Ha! Here we go again...
mm... pudding. (homer voice)
Penguin4x4
08-05-02, 08:46 PM
I like the idea. I'll watch and wait though.
Tismedt
08-05-02, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by rlemieux
Wheres the pudding? Is it chocolate pudding? I like pudding. Maybe Ill go make me some now:)
If you dont eat your meat, you cant have any pudding.
How can you have any pudding if you dont eat your meat.
Sound like testing will happen in about a month if they plan on hitting the xmas market. Should be interesting. At those prices and 80% of a 4600 it turn a lot of heads. I wonder what they expect from the T2 & T1?
this card will be available about the time NV30 makes 80% of a GF4's performance envolope meaningless. 80% of nothing is still nothing :) Obviously if this new trident card was available a year ago it would have been a world beater. As it stands it will probably ship in volume at a time by which it's target has already moved. Playing catchup is hard when you merely copy the architectural features of other chips rather than blazing your own trail...
Cullam3n
08-05-02, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by rlemieux
Wheres the pudding? Is it chocolate pudding? I like pudding. Maybe Ill go make me some now:)
Isn't Trident that company that makes gum to chew on "when you have no time to use a toothbrush?"
Hehe.
-PC
funnyperson1
08-05-02, 10:30 PM
Well, there are a couple interesting things about this card. First of all all variants of it are under 100$. Second of all it uses tile based rendering (as stated by Anand). And third, Trident is a mainstream company. The importance of this is not for us. The thing to note, is that if this is a good product. We may be seeing these 80% of Ti4600 cards in laptops and Dells and Compaqs because that is where tridents main business is. Maybe people wont have to buy a Pentium 4 2.53GHZ computer equipped with a TNT2 M64. Thats where the importance of tridents new card lies. Whether it fulfills its marketing hype....lets wait and see....
yah, its made for cheapass systems, not high overclocker mr l337 r1gz
RnPgrosz
08-05-02, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by larva
this card will be available about the time NV30 makes 80% of a GF4's performance envolope meaningless. 80% of nothing is still nothing :) Obviously if this new trident card was available a year ago it would have been a world beater. As it stands it will probably ship in volume at a time by which it's target has already moved. Playing catchup is hard when you merely copy the architectural features of other chips rather than blazing your own trail...
When Trident made this card I'm sure they kept in mind it wasn't going to be a top performer. This card will appeal to people who don't want to spend $250-300 on a video card.
Originally posted by larva
this card will be available about the time NV30 makes 80% of a GF4's performance envolope meaningless. 80% of nothing is still nothing :) Obviously if this new trident card was available a year ago it would have been a world beater. As it stands it will probably ship in volume at a time by which it's target has already moved. Playing catchup is hard when you merely copy the architectural features of other chips rather than blazing your own trail... UMM.............Yeah, just ask 3DFX. Isnt this what happened to them, not just once, but twice they where slow to hit the target market and if finally was the death of them. If the Voodoo 5500 would have been just 3 months earlier 3DFX would still be here.
rlemieux
08-06-02, 02:38 AM
Originally posted by TUK101
If the Voodoo 5500 would have been just 3 months earlier 3DFX would still be here.
And we'd probally be in a whole different market of video cards.
Originally posted by rnpgrosz
When Trident made this card I'm sure they kept in mind it wasn't going to be a top performer. This card will appeal to people who don't want to spend $250-300 on a video card.
True, not even Trident can ignore reality to a degree that allows them to see themselves capable of competing performance wise. But the point is still valid... If this chip provides 80% the performance of a 4600, it compares directly to a 4200. 4200's are already a 135 dollar proposition, and will occupy the same 90-100 dollar range as the Trident by the time of introduction. When the product hits the market is everything, and this one will hit the market too late to have much effect.
Silversinksam
08-06-02, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by funnyperson1
Well, there are a couple interesting things about this card. First of all all variants of it are under 100$. Second of all it uses tile based rendering (as stated by Anand). And third, Trident is a mainstream company. The importance of this is not for us. The thing to note, is that if this is a good product. We may be seeing these 80% of Ti4600 cards in laptops and Dells and Compaqs because that is where tridents main business is. Maybe people wont have to buy a Pentium 4 2.53GHZ computer equipped with a TNT2 M64. Thats where the importance of tridents new card lies. Whether it fulfills its marketing hype....lets wait and see....
FunnyP, You hit the nail right on the head, this card isn't geared towards people like us anyway.(unless you got a notebook) The low power consumption and low transistor count will make this a viable choice for notebooks as you said.
Hey I still got my trusty 1Mb pci Trident I use for backup, should my APC fail when I flash my Video card bios. :rolleyes:
Originally posted by Silversinksam
FunnyP, You hit the nail right on the head, this card isn't geared towards people like us anyway.(unless you got a notebook) The low power consumption and low transistor count will make this a viable choice for notebooks as you said.
This is stated in Trident's own press release concerning the XP4:
"Trident Microsystems, Inc. (NASDAQ:TRID), is unveiling its desktop XP4™ 3D graphics family setting a new price/performance standard for Microsoft's DX8.1/9.0-compliant graphics cards for less than $100, with 128MBytes of up to 700MHz DDR memory."
Speculation is that the (fairly) low transistor count will allow successful notebook implementations, but make no mistake, this is not the primary mission for this product. As stated it is intended to provide a new standard in performance in sub 100 dollar desktop cards. As the 4200 will almost surely occupy this price level by the time these cards sell this will indeed be a tough task. Which would you rather have? A 4200 or a Trident approximation of the 4200's spec sheet for the same money?
The entire press release can be viewed at:
http://www.tridentmicro.com/press/ReadNews.asp?NewsID=136&BigClassName=Trident&SmallClassName=release&SpecialID=0
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