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mrm1957
08-17-02, 06:07 PM
Anybody had or done this one it is 10 frames :

P180_enghomeoGB

NASsoccer
08-17-02, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by mrm1957
Anybody had or done this one it is 10 frames :

P180_enghomeoGB

about all i can tell you is ths:

Project 180 examines the folding of new mutants of the Engrailed Homeodomain, a great model system to understand folding and misfolding.

no other info has been released yet and they appear to be big :D

FOLD ON
NAS

portorock
08-17-02, 07:49 PM
Love that avatar. Semper Fi

mrm1957
08-17-02, 10:45 PM
I found it, it is worth 5.6 points.

walaka7
08-17-02, 11:22 PM
and it take 1 hr 25 min/frame @1700 mhz

skou
08-17-02, 11:26 PM
Anybody have a guess as to how long to do a frame?

My comp. has been working ? for a half hour and it's still showing 0/10, 0%

skou
08-17-02, 11:28 PM
How'd you answer me before I asked, Thanks Walaka

steve

mrm1957
08-17-02, 11:32 PM
It's taking my Tbird @ 1570 an hour and a half for one frame.

looktall
08-17-02, 11:33 PM
25 mins per frame?

:( :( :(

it's taking nearly 2 hours per frame on my celeron @1600mhz.

which is very strange.
it only takes 15 mins per frame to do one of those huge p146 WU's.

walaka7
08-17-02, 11:46 PM
Here is the progress of the protein/gromac. hope this sheds some light :)

9] Protein: p180_enghomeoGB
[23:01:49] - Run: 5 (Clone 68, Gen 0)
[23:01:49] - Frames Completed: 0, Remaining: 10
[23:01:49] - Dynamic steps required: 500000
[23:01:49]
[23:01:49] Writing local files:
[23:01:49]
[23:01:49] parameters work/wudata_02.prm
[23:01:49] - Writing "work/wudata_02.key": (overwrite)successful.
[23:01:49] - Writing "work/wudata_02.xyz": (overwrite)successful.
[23:01:49] - Writing "work/wudata_02.prm": (overwrite)successful.
[23:01:50] - Writing "work/wudata_02.key": (append)successful.
[23:01:50]
[23:01:50] PROJECT="work/wudata_02", NSTEPS=500000, DT=2.0000, DTDUMP=100.000000, TEMP=308.00
[23:01:50] TINKER: Software Tools for Molecular Design
[23:01:50] Version 3.8 October 2000
[23:01:50] Copyright (c) Jay William Ponder 1990-2000
[23:01:50] portions Copyright (c) Michael Shirts 2001
[23:01:50] portions Copyright (c) Vijay S Pande 2001
[00:25:11] Finished a frame (1)
[01:55:57] Finished a frame (2)
[03:30:07] Finished a frame (3)
My bad .. its been a long week :(.. sorry for confusion

looktall
08-18-02, 12:01 AM
that's 1.5 hours per frame. that sounds a bit more like it. :D

Hardass
08-18-02, 12:05 AM
My 1500Mhz is taking 83mins. Per frame.

hooziewhatsit
08-18-02, 01:01 AM
This is taking my 1 gig (ES) PIII just under 3 hours to do.... it is a big one...

looktall
08-18-02, 06:56 AM
all three of my machines now have this p180 protein.

if it takes 2 hours on ym celeron @ 1600, i am dreading to see the time per frame on my celeron @ 600. :eek:

CaptnBackfire87
08-18-02, 07:14 AM
my p4 1.6GHz, i havent finished a frame yet, but EMIII says its taking one hour 8 minutes, this sounds faster compared to others posts

looktall
08-18-02, 12:10 PM
my celeron 600 finished it's first frame nearly an hour ago.

that gives it a frame time of 5 hours!!
:eek:

jbslow
08-18-02, 12:16 PM
looks like just over 78min per frame on the xp@1.67ghz

rich99million
08-18-02, 12:38 PM
3hrs14mins on an Athlon 700 - i also have one on my 900 at the moment.


Rich

walaka7
08-18-02, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by looktall
my celeron 600 finished it's first frame nearly an hour ago.

that gives it a frame time of 5 hours!!
:eek:

YOWZA :eek:

kajj
08-18-02, 03:22 PM
1.73ghz XP took 1 hour 17 min.

ZeroAquaduct
08-18-02, 04:56 PM
I just received this protein. My XP 1700 is taking 1 hour and 39 minutes to process 1 frame, for total of about 16-17 hours. This is according to EMIII.

OpenFriday
08-18-02, 05:06 PM
1hr 38 min per frame @1745 done 5 frames thank god its only 10 frames.

silent bob
08-18-02, 05:12 PM
1 hr 31 min with 1728 mhz behind it , wow it is a long sucker , and my 850 just got one too ,I hope the 1.2 dont get it too cuz that would blow

Audioaficionado
08-18-02, 06:25 PM
The first two 100 frame WPs took about 90hrs each. This last one has been running waaaay slower. Only 13 frames in 36hrs. At this rate I might not finish in time. At night I shut everything down except explorer, Cacheman and my AVS. I wish I could specify only smaller WPs.


BTW that 1.6gig HD I got from walaka7 runs great. Buy 'em for barebones F@H rigs. If I was employed, I'd have cleaned out his inventory by now. :D

rich99million
08-18-02, 07:52 PM
just as you got used to the 10 big frames it seems they may return to 100 smaller frames instead:

I've increased the # of checkpoint frames to try to make the checkpointing work out better.
THis will affect new WUs, but not old ones. We decreased this in order to try to minimize net bandwitdh, but it clearly does create issues for you guys in checkpointing.
Thanks,
V
and
Due to the internal nature of Tinker, the number of checkpoints is directly related to the number of frames we get back.
We've talked about decoupling this, but this would take some re-hashing of Tinker and since we're pushing to move to Gromacs right now, what work was proposed internally, but never assigned.
Bojan got these new runs up and wanted to decrease the net bandwitdh, but forgot about the issue of how decreasing the # of frames back would impact on the checkpointing.
When I noticed the posts here, I set it back to the normal manner.
Sorry for the confusion,
Vijay
both from this thread (http://forum.folding-community.org/viewtopic.php?t=1251&start=30)

Rich

phungilax
08-18-02, 09:02 PM
its taking me about 2.5 hours a frame @ 1130mhz. doesn't matter though casue i fold 24/7, can really use those 5.6 pts.

DodgeViper
08-18-02, 09:43 PM
The P180 took me 72 minutes per frame. I got another 180 I am working on now.

[00:47:14] Protein: p180_enghomeoGB
[00:47:14] - Run: 78 (Clone 43, Gen 0)
[00:47:14] - Frames Completed: 0, Remaining: 10
[00:47:14] - Dynamic steps required: 500000
[00:47:14] Writing local files:
[00:47:14] parameters work/wudata_02.prm
[00:47:14] - Writing "work/wudata_02.key": (overwrite) successful.
[00:47:14] - Writing "work/wudata_02.xyz": (overwrite) successful.
[00:47:15] - Writing "work/wudata_02.prm": (overwrite) successful.
[00:47:15] - Writing "work/wudata_02.key": (append) successful.
[00:47:15] PROJECT="work/wudata_02", NSTEPS=500000, DT=2.0000, DTDUMP=100.000000, TEMP=308.00
[00:47:15] TINKER: Software Tools for Molecular Design
[00:47:15] Version 3.8 October 2000
[00:47:15] Copyright (c) Jay William Ponder 1990-2000
[00:47:15] portions Copyright (c) Michael Shirts 2001
[00:47:15] portions Copyright (c) Vijay S Pande 2001
Opening "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe" -nohome http://folding.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/userpage?q=DodgeViper
[02:00:01] Finished a frame (1)
[03:11:48] Finished a frame (2)
[04:23:49] Finished a frame (3)
[05:35:41] Finished a frame (4)
[06:47:36] Finished a frame (5)
[07:59:28] Finished a frame (6)
[09:11:21] Finished a frame (7)
[10:23:14] Finished a frame (8)

jwhitehorn
08-18-02, 10:06 PM
I just got one of those p180_enghomeoGBs when my computer updated lastnight. My system (listed below) has been working on it for almost 24hours and its only 10% done. I think it looks cool though........Just thought i would add my 2 cents :) .

Matthew1001
08-18-02, 11:17 PM
I just got one also. I am doing it at about 3 hours a frame. It is a little longer because I am using fold monitor and had my machine off during a storm for about an hour earlier.

aero red baron
08-18-02, 11:55 PM
I just got my third one in a row. taking 80 min per frame @ 1610. I'll have 200pts in no time. :D

Ridenow
08-19-02, 12:31 AM
Alton again, 1.333 Tbird

[03:38:51] Protein: p180_enghomeoGB
[03:38:51] - Run: 31 (Clone 5, Gen 0)
[03:38:51] - Frames Completed: 0, Remaining: 10
[03:38:51] - Dynamic steps required: 500000
[03:38:51]
[03:38:51] Writing local files:
[03:38:51]
[03:38:51] parameters work/wudata_07.prm
[03:38:51] - Writing "work/wudata_07.key": (overwrite) successful.
[03:38:51] - Writing "work/wudata_07.xyz": (overwrite) successful.
[03:38:52] - Writing "work/wudata_07.prm": (overwrite) successful.
[03:38:52] - Writing "work/wudata_07.key": (append) successful.
[03:38:52]
[03:38:52] PROJECT="work/wudata_07", NSTEPS=500000, DT=2.0000, DTDUMP=100.000000, TEMP=308.00
[03:38:52] TINKER: Software Tools for Molecular Design
[03:38:52] Version 3.8 October 2000
[03:38:52] Copyright (c) Jay William Ponder 1990-2000
[03:38:52] portions Copyright (c) Michael Shirts 2001
[03:38:52] portions Copyright (c) Vijay S Pande 2001
[05:22:01] Finished a frame (1)
[07:05:38] Finished a frame (2)
[08:46:10] Finished a frame (3)
[10:26:41] Finished a frame (4)
[12:07:13] Finished a frame (5)
[13:47:43] Finished a frame (6)
[15:28:34] Finished a frame (7)
[17:10:38] Finished a frame (8)
[18:50:51] Finished a frame (9)
[20:31:04] Finished a frame (10)
[20:31:04] TINKER is Exiting following Normal Termination
[20:31:04]
[20:31:04] Finished Work Unit:
[20:31:04] ARC file integrity verified
[20:31:04] logfile size: 20480
[20:31:04] Leaving Run
[20:31:06] - Writing 62747 bytes of core data to disk.
[20:31:06] end (WriteWorkResults)
[20:31:06] - Shutting down core
[20:31:06]
[20:31:06] Folding@Home2 Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
CoreStatus = 64 (100)
Sending work to server

jbslow
08-19-02, 01:06 AM
looks like my xp@1.91ghz does one frame in about 68min

David
08-19-02, 06:31 AM
Could you possibly post your frame times here please. Thanks :D

http://forum.folding-community.org/viewtopic.php?t=1276

Loud
08-19-02, 07:48 AM
Right. Done.

new_novice
08-19-02, 11:21 AM
I haven't registered over there yet, so if you want you can do that for me. Thanks

Duron 1378 Mhz @ 1 hour 30 mins
Duron 1216 Mhz @ 2 hours 5 mins

Pentium 233 Mhz @ 15+ hours a frame

yah, thats it.

rich99million
08-19-02, 12:03 PM
i added yours new novice


Rich

new_novice
08-19-02, 12:11 PM
thanks rich

mustangman
08-19-02, 02:28 PM
How many days do you have to return a P180? I have one on my Cele500 and it's taking 10 hrs a frame!:( My other machines, all AMDs are hammering them out in about 90min/frame.:)

rich99million
08-19-02, 02:32 PM
The deadline for a P180 is 12 days

http://folding.stanford.edu/psummary.html

all currently active projects are listed here with IP numbers, points per protein and deadlines

Rich

gtsimmo
08-19-02, 02:37 PM
I got two new p180, their my 5th and 6th ones i gotten but these are different. They are 100 frames instead of 10.


[19:26:22] Protein: p180_enghomeoGB
[19:26:22] - Run: 93 (Clone 60, Gen 1)
[19:26:22] - Frames Completed: 0, Remaining: 100
[19:26:22] - Dynamic steps required: 500000

mustangman
08-19-02, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by rich99million
The deadline for a P180 is 12 days

http://folding.stanford.edu/psummary.html

all currently active projects are listed here with IP numbers, points per protein and deadlines

Rich
Thanks for the info.
I must be blind! I looked at the page you linked just before I posted and didn't see the P180 there, but know I do!:D

rich99million
08-19-02, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by gtsimmo
I got two new p180, their my 5th and 6th ones i gotten but these are different. They are 100 frames instead of 10.


[19:26:22] Protein: p180_enghomeoGB
[19:26:22] - Run: 93 (Clone 60, Gen 1)
[19:26:22] - Frames Completed: 0, Remaining: 100
[19:26:22] - Dynamic steps required: 500000
yeah they changed the new WUs because they had so many complaints that the frames were too long.

see my post on page1 of this very thread :D

Rich

Cowboy X
08-19-02, 03:03 PM
I have a 100 frame one and I am getting 8 min 57 sec per frame on my T'bird .

Edit : My cpu is running @1536

NASsoccer
08-19-02, 03:26 PM
from [h] for the EM3 people

180 variants
A 100 frame p180_enghomeoGB.
Crunching 2 of them as you can see.
8 minutes and 52 sec per frame on the AXP 1618Mhz and 10.24 per frame on the 1304 Mhz Duron.


and larry:

Yep... just posted a new emprotx.dat file a while ago...

I'll be updating EM later... This is wearing me out!

FOLD ON
NAS

skou
08-19-02, 11:50 PM
I just got a 100 frame, it's taking about 15 min. a frame. Either it's big, or my P4 is slowing down, I am at 2.5Ghz now.

DodgeViper
08-20-02, 12:27 AM
I am processing the P180 100 frame at 7 minutes and 9 seconds per frame while flying MS flight Simulator.


[14:36:35] Protein: p180_enghomeoGB
[14:36:35] - Run: 133 (Clone 25, Gen 1)

[14:53:50] Finished a frame (4)
[15:01:00] Finished a frame (5)
[15:08:09] Finished a frame (6)
[15:15:20] Finished a frame (7)
[15:22:30] Finished a frame (8)
[15:29:40] Finished a frame (9)
[15:36:49] Finished a frame (10)
[15:44:00] Finished a frame (11)
[15:51:10] Finished a frame (12)

john240sx
08-20-02, 01:26 AM
i got one lastnight and it's killing me. i already fell 50 spots on the standings. i hope i don't get these back to back.

portorock
08-20-02, 08:59 AM
Must have a glitch in my sys. 141 hours and 100 frames?

portorock
08-20-02, 09:03 AM
Sorry bout the crappy pic

PS both of my cpu's on my main dually have them?

portorock
08-20-02, 09:07 AM
Could it be a prob with EMIII? It has the same 2 proteins twice with different info

Gator
08-20-02, 02:40 PM
Hey, I know Athlons tend to do better at folding than Intels... but THIS is ridiculous:

AMD Athlon T-bird vis Intel Pentium-III (Tualatin) at same clock rate (1.4gHz)

Client : nitehawk Tbird@1.4gHz: F:/FAHTASK1
Core : Version 2.47 (June 14, 2002)
Protein : p180_enghomeoGB
Frames : 10
Workunit : 05
Atoms : 613
Steps : 500000
Server IP : 119
Completed : Between Mon Aug 19 21:57:07 2002 and Mon Aug 19 21:59:07 2002
Refresh at : 120 sec.
Frame Time : 88.91 min. ( 5335 sec. )
Total Time : 888.00 min. ( 53280 sec. )

Client : niteshade PIII@1.4gHz: L:/niteshade/FAHTASK1
Core : Version 2.49 (August 14, 2002)
Protein : p180_enghomeoGB
Frames : 10
Workunit : 06
Atoms : 613
Steps : 500000
Server IP : 119
Completed : Between Mon Aug 19 11:59:06 2002 and Mon Aug 19 12:01:06 2002
Refresh at : 120 sec.
Frame Time : 216.58 min. ( 12995 sec. )
Total Time : 2164.82 min. ( 129889 sec. )

The T-bird whomps the Tualatin by factor of 2.4+?!? Woah!

Ridenow
08-20-02, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by Gator
Hey, I know Athlons tend to do better at folding than Intels... but THIS is ridiculous:
The T-bird whomps the Tualatin by factor of 2.4+?!? Woah!


LOL. Nice comparison, very interesting.

ed8150
08-20-02, 03:51 PM
is it just me or did they make this protein 100 frames instead of 10 recently?

rich99million
08-20-02, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by ed8150
is it just me or did they make this protein 100 frames instead of 10 recently?
No it's all in your twisted imagination :D

hehehe - ok, the original WUs were 10 frames but people complained cos the frames were too big so Vijay changed them to 100 frames so there were more checkpoints.

I think only the Gen0 WUs were 10 frames, Gen1 and above should all be 100 frames.

Rich

badvector
08-20-02, 04:12 PM
Hey folks, is it just me or are you all getting these P180's non stop. Out of 14 WU's turned in 5 have been P180's and out of the three machines I have folding, two are folding more of these. the 5 P180's I've turned in have been the last 5 proteins I've folded on my P4 and Duron rigs. I'm just glad my celly 433 hasn't seen one of these yet. I've also noticed that EMIII lists the value as unknown on these new 100 frame ones.

rich99million
08-20-02, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by badvector
I've also noticed that EMIII lists the value as unknown on these new 100 frame ones.
You need to dowload the updated emprotx.dat file from www.em-dc.com

drop it in your emIII folder, overwriting the old one, then restart emIII and it should work with 10 or 100 frame versions.

Rich

badvector
08-20-02, 05:52 PM
Thanks Rich :)

BBigJ
08-20-02, 06:37 PM
This is on a P3 500 (running linux.) The early fromes took about 3 hours each. Now it is turning in 1hr frames. I'm a little worried that it won't finish in time.


[22:47:05] Protein: p180_enghomeoGB
[22:47:05] - Run: 143 (Clone 93, Gen 1)
[22:47:05] - Frames Completed: 0, Remaining: 100
[22:47:05] - Dynamic steps required: 500000
[22:47:05]
[22:47:05] Writing local files:
[22:47:05]
[22:47:05] parameters work/wudata_07.prm
[22:47:05] - Writing "work/wudata_07.key": (overwrite) successful.
[22:47:05] - Writing "work/wudata_07.xyz": (overwrite) successful.
[22:47:06] - Writing "work/wudata_07.prm": (overwrite) successful.
[22:47:07] - Writing "work/wudata_07.key": (append) successful.
[22:47:07]
[22:47:07] PROJECT="work/wudata_07", NSTEPS=500000, DT=2.0000, DTDUMP=10.000000, TEMP=308.00
[22:47:07] TINKER: Software Tools for Molecular Design
[22:47:07] Version 3.8 October 2000
[22:47:07] Copyright (c) Jay William Ponder 1990-2000
[22:47:07] portions Copyright (c) Michael Shirts 2001
[22:47:07] portions Copyright (c) Vijay S Pande 2001
[23:52:22] Finished a frame (1)
[02:05:57] Finished a frame (2)
[04:58:08] Finished a frame (3)
[07:50:25] Finished a frame (4)
[10:42:44] Finished a frame (5)
[13:35:21] Finished a frame (6)
[16:27:18] Finished a frame (7)
[19:19:14] Finished a frame (8)
[21:13:25] Finished a frame (9)
[22:22:34] Finished a frame (10)
[23:29:20] Finished a frame (11)

Matthew1001
08-20-02, 08:55 PM
I just got my second in a row.

Ridenow
08-20-02, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by badvector
Hey folks, is it just me or are you all getting these P180's non stop. Out of 14 WU's turned in 5 have been P180's and out of the three machines I have folding, two are folding more of these. the 5 P180's I've turned in have been the last 5 proteins I've folded on my P4 and Duron rigs. I'm just glad my celly 433 hasn't seen one of these yet. I've also noticed that EMIII lists the value as unknown on these new 100 frame ones.

Alton is getting them nonstop, but all my others are doing villins or P605.

Daddio
08-20-02, 10:21 PM
All I'm getting lately are these babies, they sure to seem to go slow.
I have a 100 step one on my main rig, XP @ 1.6 ghz, doing about 9 min/frame.
On my Cellie 550, 10 frame wu, 6 hrs 30 min/frame, at work I have a K6-II @400 mhz. That baby kicks out a frame every 15 hrs or so. Whoa, nellie!
Does anyone have an idea if these are generally less points per time spent folding?

aero red baron
08-20-02, 11:00 PM
I've just gotten my sixth one in a row. I don't mind but variety is nice:)
9 mins/frame

gtsimmo
08-20-02, 11:31 PM
ok i unlocked my XP1800 now at 12.5 x 143, 1.79 ghz. Does a p180 frame in 7:42 :)

skou
08-21-02, 12:04 AM
I must be smokin' 11.4minutes a frame on the rig in my sig.

steve

Wedo
08-21-02, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by gtsimmo
ok i unlocked my XP1800 now at 12.5 x 143, 1.79 ghz. Does a p180 frame in 7:42 :)

Gtsimmo, you're my hero :D I have my home rig at what seems to be the highest speed you can go (1.645Ghz 11.5 x 143)without breaking out the unlock kit. My frame times are about a minute slower than yours.

These p180's are great for the AMD rigs but the slower Pentiums are getting killed.

Cheers,
Wedo