View Full Version : Little Specks On Screen.....
Scarface01
08-21-02, 09:53 PM
I wanted to know what is the cause of the little specks on my screen, whenever i see them i move my mouse around and my mouse gets locked up, same with my keyboard, but my music still plays. I wanted to know if this is a video card problem or a power supply problem. my video card is a crap PCI Trident Card. Please Reply, because i want to know if i have to buy a new power supply or just get a new videocard (which i plan on doing).
knif_00
08-21-02, 10:04 PM
I'm just gonna blame all your problems and "artifacts" on that junkie VidCard. Other than that, you have a pretty resonable setup.
FYI :: Save the money, get the Radeon 9700Pro :D
Scarface01
08-21-02, 10:07 PM
LOL, ok, so just that could be causing the problems? i hope so, because im going to get a new videocard anyways, i just wanted to settle out all the problems first.
don't get the 420 cause its sdram based... at least get the 440 that has ddr. you will be miles ahead.
don't waste your money on a radeon 9700 pro... you're system will be a bottleneck for that card.
oh.. and to answer your question the specks are caused by your memory on the video card which is about to die.
Just like knif_00 said it's more than likely the video card. Also in your sig you say your getting a g4 mx420. I have one of these cards and you could do better by getting either a mx 440, 460 or getting a geforce 3 ti200 which supports newer features than the MX series. Also ATI's radeon 8500's are also priced pretty cheap. The memory for the 420 runs at 166 mhz while the 440 I believe runs at 400 DDR.
Originally posted by knif_00
I'm just gonna blame all your problems and "artifacts" on that junkie VidCard. Other than that, you have a pretty resonable setup.
FYI :: Save the money, get the Radeon 9700Pro :D
first of all... don't call people's property "junk." thats extremely rude. what if i were to tell you that your 1.2 at 1.3 was junk and totally pathetic? you wouldn't like it would you?
2ndly... don't suggest products that they might not be able to afford or can't completely benefit from. the latest greatest is not always the best option. actually it usually isn't.
sorry if i sound rude, but your post was completely out of line. Scarface01 i appoligize for his post if you took offense.
oxygen147
08-21-02, 11:56 PM
those specks sound familiar ... happened to me before one of my older vid cards died
Scarface01
08-21-02, 11:58 PM
Thanks Alot Maxvla, u really helped me out, now i know what the little "speks" means, well i am going to get a geforce mx460 now with 64mbddr or maybe a radeon 9000. But one last question, could my videocard be causing my system to get mouse lockups, like everything in the background keeps working except that i cant move my mouse or my keyboard.
the mouse/keyboard could be related to the video card not working properly... it could be causing your motherboard to be unstable.
imho the radeon 9000 is not worth the money. the radeon 8500 still whips it and gets better numbers. stick with the 8500 if going radeon. now remember the gf4 mx cards dont, repeat dont have directx 8 support. so no pixel shaders or any of that stuff. for you i would seriously recommend an 8500 if you game alot. if you don't check into a gf2mx400 that will still give you decent performance.
Scarface01, It doesn't sound like the video card would make the keyboard or mouse lock up. I could be wrong but I have never heard of a video card doing that. You might have another issue. Check the drivers for both the mouse and keyboard also are you using a USB keyboard and mouse? If you are then check to make sure everything for the USB hub are functioning correctly. I hope you get the problem solved and please post back to tell us what you found out.
Daniel
are you following me bull? rofl
No I'm not following you Maxvla. lol. You just seem to be one step ahead of me. I guess I need to learn to type faster. :D
Docta_Z
08-22-02, 09:45 AM
I had a similar problem, I got a wet towel and wiped the screen and fixed it however.
Originally posted by Docta_Z
I had a similar problem, I got a wet towel and wiped the screen and fixed it however.
ROFL!! lol. http://members.directvinternet.com/maxvla/laugh.gif
Scarface01
08-22-02, 02:55 PM
I have a ps/2 Mouse and keyboard, and i tried them on other computers and they worked good. One day i was putting music from my computer to my Nomad Jukebox and it locked up again. Then i restarted and Windows gave me an error about my trident display drivers caused a system error or something like that. But would my trident also cause my mouse and keyboard to lockup in bios also?
knif_00
08-22-02, 03:38 PM
Dont jump my ass over calling it JUNKIE! he claimed himself it was a CRAP card to start with. . I was just looking for a synonym. And if my 1.2@1.3 is pathetic. . then Whaa . . I dont give a rip!
Geeze peole really get bent out of shape over little details.
Lusankya
08-22-02, 04:08 PM
You think thats bad??
My P3 500 running 98/2k dual works fine in 98...
Used to work fine in 2k also
Suddenly if i boot up 2k after it finishes it goes black and white on me.. even though the display panel still set at 3tbit color and everything is working
Only way to avoid this is to uninstall the drivers before I shut that OS down.. so the next time it boots and goes b&w I just go to display and apply the preset settings for the drivers that sty on the system even after I uninstall them... its weird..
*shrug* if I do turn it into a server it will be moot anyways.. just damn annoying
Captain Slug
08-22-02, 07:31 PM
I've had 3 video cards die on me and they all caused stability problems and gave me artifacts.
My moms "almost free" machine that she uses for geneology, has a Video card from 1994 that gives her artifacts all over the non-important upper right hand corner of the screen.
It also can't handle animated cursors :D
Originally posted by Captain Slug
I've had 3 video cards die on me and they all caused stability problems and gave me artifacts.
My moms "almost free" machine that she uses for geneology, has a Video card from 1994 that gives her artifacts all over the non-important upper right hand corner of the screen.
It also can't handle animated cursors :D
why didn't you use that trident card you are selling with all that other stuff?
Captain Slug
08-22-02, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by Maxvla
why didn't you use that trident card you are selling with all that other stuff?
Hehehe, because my mom doesn't know yet and I wouldn't sell a defective part. :)
All I had to do was use non-animating cursors.
Originally posted by knif_00
Dont jump my ass over calling it JUNKIE! he claimed himself it was a CRAP card to start with. . I was just looking for a synonym. And if my 1.2@1.3 is pathetic. . then Whaa . . I dont give a rip!
Geeze peole really get bent out of shape over little details.
i will admit. i did not see him refer to his card as crap. after i read your post here i reread it and saw that. i appoligize for saying that, however its still kinda rude to enthusiastically agree about someone's parts being less than acceptable.
also. i only made the statement about your o/c for a demonstration. i never meant a word of it. (however... try getting 904mhz overclock like i have :p j/k)
i wasn't getting bent out of shape about this. just letting you know the manner you composed yourself was less than desirable.
Originally posted by Captain Slug
Hehehe, because my mom doesn't know yet and I wouldn't sell a defective part. :)
All I had to do was use non-animating cursors.
boo!!!!! come on that was a 15 dollar part at best. mom's deserve a little better than that dontcha think? :rolleyes: ;)
Captain Slug
08-23-02, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by Maxvla
boo!!!!! come on that was a 15 dollar part at best. mom's deserve a little better than that dontcha think? :rolleyes: ;)
She uses that computer all of once a week at best. I've been playing older DOS games on it, that emulate a 386 incorrectly on my main rig (which causes them to move REALLY fast and unplayable).
The artifacts don't get in the way of anything and are only a few pixels in the upper right corner.
She's even considering parting it out to sell on the forum to earn a little shopping money.
Scarface01
08-23-02, 07:01 PM
Ok, i just want to know if artifacts from my video card could cause system lockups or mouse lockups, because im not really getting an answer. Thanks for the replies.
well the artifacts in and of themselves won't do any damage. but the artifacts are showing that your video card is having problems. and the video card could be causing the lockups.
Scarface01
08-23-02, 07:48 PM
Oh Ok, thanks Maxvla, tomorrow i am going to buy my new videocard, don't really know which one yet, the 8500 is too damn expensive (i live in canada) , the 9000 is 120 canadian , its oem (thats like 70 american i think) Well anyways i hope the new videocard solves it.
My GeForce 256 DDR started giving artifacts, and then died shortly afterwards. But while it was artifacting, it would randomly lock up the PC. I know it was the card, cos I took it out and the lockups stopped. So yeah, I'd say it's a pretty sure bet that the vid card is locking the system up.
If you havent ordered you card yet check this (http://www.ncix.com/canada/productdetail.php?sku=8220&PHPSESSID=473dad81b840675cec01a40a9694bdd4) out, its a 128mb radeon 8500le for $172 Canadian...although the place is in BC so you have to factor in $10 for shipping. Ive ordered from them a few times and their shipping is quick.
that card should beat out the 9000 at stock speeds and should be overclockable to full 8500 speeds (275/275), I really think its worth the extra few bucks if your wallet can handle it.
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