Duel pumps, duel BIX... (PIC) I need 2 cents PLZ.

[Ct. Strangelove]

Hello all... I am new on the forums but i have been reading them for a long time now.

This setup calls for the Ehiem 1060 and 1048, two Black Ice Extremes, and a MASSIVE heat load. The picture is an overhead view of a two chamber acrylic box.
A: BIX
B: pumps
C: water res
D: is a fan facing down into the rad chamber.
The box is designed to be the bottem of a custom case.
Since high flow is good through WB's, the 1060 pushes water through the main cooling loop. While Rads like slow flow, the little 1048 gently flows water to the BIX. ( i mean 'little' in ratio) Hence cooling the water res, the main cooling circuit, and the pumps themselves. O, the fan pushes air out the sides of the rad chamber in two directions. (need a BIG aZZ fan!)
Total heat disapation 919Wh * 2 = 1838 watts!
I know this setup is only practical if you have 1838watts to cool.
(6 226w pelts!) :cool:

Some flaws i see in the design...
The 'chilled' water from the rad enter the res at the intake of the RAD pump thus cirulating allready chilled water into the rads agian. FIX: have rad chilled water enter res near MAIN loop pump intake. All other flaws are about the same, just intakes and extakes port placement

Should I put a ball vaulve on the rad curcuit to find the "sweet spot?"
How would I fill the system? Were will i place the bleeding vaulves?


What does everyone think? THX

OK my bad its DUAL, not a fight. besides i can't imagine two people throwing heavy azz pumps at each other. well accually i can. hehe

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My .02:

Duel-

1. A prearranged, formal combat between two persons, usually fought to settle a point of honor.

2. A struggle for domination between two contending persons, groups, or ideas.

Dual-

1. Composed of two usually like or complementary parts; double: dual controls for pilot and copilot; a car with dual exhaust pipes.

2. Having a double character or purpose: a belief in the dual nature of reality.

3. Grammar. Of, relating to, or being a number category that indicates two persons or things, as in Greek, Sanskrit, and Old English.

[Ct. Strangelove]

Ok I will put my lighter away. Thanks for the english lesson. DUAL!
ok thats why I did bad on my final English paper. I am taking 18 credit hours, i am sure somewere that will help. (i am not being sarcastic, i like to learn my mistakes.)

[Skulemate]

Firstly, you calculated heat dissipation is completely wrong. Those values listed by manufacturers are simply not attainable in our watercooling setups because they rely on a much higher fluid temperature than is reasonable in our systems.

Second, I am not a fan of combined reservoirs like you have shown. The reason being is that the fluid will mix, meaning that your cool water from the radiator loop will be warmed by the hot return water from the CPU... in essence, you'll have warm (not cool) water cooling your CPU and warm (not hot) water being cooled by the rads. Neither of these are good, as both heat exchangers will be less efficient. Now, if you had two reservoirs, and you used valves to make sure the flow in both loops was the same then you could possible do something like this... and it may work quite well.

[Wicked Klown]

Why not do it something like this.

[Ct. Strangelove]

That setup would assure nice low temps. But it looks like it has 4 fans! ouch. I would like to use one powerful internal fan. Another thing is my goal is to have slow flow through the rad and high flow through the blocks. even have it to the point were I can control it via gate vaulve or such. But closing the vaulve to much might put an over burden on the pump(s).

Hey thanks I will keep that setup in mind for some experimenting.
thx

[Skulemate]

Originally posted by Ct. Strangelove
Another thing is my goal is to have slow flow through the rad and high flow through the blocks.

Why would you want to do that? That's a watercooling myth... it's not beneficial in any way.

[Ct. Strangelove]

This design is all wrong. I was at work when I thought of this.

A bucket that can hold a gallon of water. Add half a gallon of water at 100f, add an other half at 50f, what do you get a bucket of water at about 80-85f. More volume of hot water is being pumped itno the res than chilled water thus the balence of hot cold is way out of porportion. It might work if i swaped the pumps. but of course the 1048 is not powerful enuff.

"Back to the drawing board" Marvin the Martian

[Wicked Klown]

The reason I had two fans per BIX, Is cause you'll get better temps with a push/pull set-up. If you want a fan thats not to loud look at the Enermax Adjustable speed fans (http://sidewindercomputers.com/12clearulwit.html) I have two of the on my Fiancee`s water cooled rig and you can hardly hear it.