trying to get my school to fold!

[xvi3tsoljahx]

i might have to start a new name and tell them to fold! Whole classroom with p3's. if my classroom will fold i will help fold under team 32 and under the school name we might choose. I told him if we get into it fold for my team the 3rd in the world! I'm suppose to explain to him this tuesday... can someone help me what can i say to my teacher in order to convince him?
He heard of SETI b4, but FOLDING is new to him

[NASsoccer]

Originally posted by xvi3tsoljahx
i might have to start a new name and tell them to fold! Whole classroom with p3's. if my classroom will fold i will help fold under team 32 and under the school name we might choose. I told him if we get into it fold for my team the 3rd in the world! I'm suppose to explain to him this tuesday... can someone help me what can i say to my teacher in order to convince him?
He heard of SETI b4, but FOLDING is new to him

***this thread -=HERE=- (http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=895623&t=6988#post895623) has a good overview about what the project is about and what it is trying to accomplish

FOLDING:
You are made of Proteins. Constructed from the building blocks of life according to the instructions in your DNA. However it's not as simple as reading off the recipe from the DNA and constructing the protein's molecular chain. It's the *shape* that that big complicated molecular chain naturally takes that determines how it interacts with your cells and your body. Knowing how Proteins Fold has been called "the holy grail of molecular biophysics", and the potential uses of this knowledge is nearly endless. Proteins are big and complicated, and the forces between the thousands of atoms that make them up is unbelievably complicated. Calculating their shape has been the realm of supercomputers. (from the team site- www.overclockers.ws)

What are proteins and why do they "fold"?
Proteins are biology's workhorses -- its "nanomachines." Before proteins can carry out their biochemical function, they remarkably assemble themselves, or "fold." The process of protein folding, while critical and fundamental to virtually all of biology, remains a mystery. Moreover, perhaps not surprisingly, when proteins do not fold correctly (i.e. "misfold"), there can be serious effects, including many well known diseases, such as Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, and Parkinson's disease.( - From the Stanford page)

think i will quote ploaf on this one:

Folding is Folding@Home. It's a distributed computing project that exists to find out how proteins fold and misfold in the body. When a protein creates itself it does so by a process known as folding. Misfolding is what happens when something goes wrong during the folding process and is thought to be responsible for a number of diseases such as alzheimers. The project is creating models to find out what causes the misfolding of proteins by breaking down the folding process and recreating it so that it can be further analyzed. This requires awesome amounts of computing power which has, for the most part, been unavailable to researchers until now because most supercomputers simply aren't powerful enough to process the information. This is where we come in. Thousands of people, many grouped into teams like ours(go team 32), volunteer their PC's to help with the research. The information is broken down into small manageable pieces and distributed to the various PC's so that they can perform the necessary calculations and then send the information back to Stanford University where the results are then recombined. This way PC's connected to the internet can be used together to create a virtual supercomputer more powerful than what is available to most universities.
More information is available in the folding section of these forums and at http://folding.stanford.edu and there are a lot of people in the folding forum that would be glad to help you if you decide to join our effort. If you would like to try it out the client is available at http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html

***also THIS THREAD (http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=107918&highlight=folding+mom).. good thread there about the validity of the project and what it all entails. give them a look.

***HERE (http://folding.stanford.edu/faq.html#project.folding) also has a great amount of details about the project. And HERE (http://folding.stanford.edu/science.html) addresses the scientific details.

***also this tidbit fromt he stanford FAQ about security:

What about security issues?

We have worked very hard to maintain the best security possible with modern computer science methodology. Our software will upload and download data only from our data server here at Stanford. The data server doesn't download any executable code to your computer. Actually, our software is considerably safer than the browser you're using to read this!

How is this possible? We take extensive measures to check all of the data entering your computer and the results we send back to Stanford with 2048 bit digital signatures. If the signatures don't match (on either the input out the output) the client will throw away the data and start again. This ensures, using the best software security measures developed to date (digital signatures and PKI in version 3.0), that we are keeping the tightest possible security.

Finally, the client/screensaver are available for download only from this web site, so that we can guarantee the integrity of the software. We do not support Folding@home software obtained elsewhere and prohibit others to distribute the software.

Why no IRIX/Solaris/etc version?

We've been deluged by requests for other versions. We promise, we'll get them up and posted soon as we can, most likely in a couple of weeks. Right now, we're looking for good programmers to help with the ports to SGI, Solaris, etc. In general, the Cosm libraries should be easy to port and thus (with some help), we should be able to whip out these versions.

What are you going to add in later versions of the software?

Here's a list of some of the enhancements we are planning in later versions of the software, in no particular order. Some of these will be done in the next few days, some might take several weeks or even months to implement. If you have any other suggestions for improvements, drop us a line at the support center newsgroups.

Macinotsh distributions of both screensaver and console version
A Linux screensaver in addition to the console version
Support for other UNIX variants (BSD, IRIX, Solaris, etc.)
Better user control over the console and screensaver
Better compatibility with password protection on screensavers
Improved visualization of the proteins being calculated
Improved documentation in the installation process
Better support for modem, laptops, and other intermittent connections


Who "owns" the results? What will happen to them?

Unlike other distributed computing projects, Folding@home is run by an academic institution (specifically the Pande Group, at Stanford University's Chemistry Department), which is a non-profit institution dedicated to science research and education. We will not sell the data or make any money off of it.

Moreover, we will make the data available for others to use. In particular, the results from Folding@home will be made available on several levels. Most importantly, analysis of the simulations will be submitted to scientific journals for publication, and these journal articles will be posted on the web page after publication. Next, after publication of these scientific articles which analyze the data, the raw data of the folding runs will be available for everyone, including other researchers, here on this web site.

find out more about these results here (http://folding.stanford.edu/results.html)


LINKS TO BOOKMARK

http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=108580 ---our FAQ
http://folding.stanford.edu/ -- stanford folding page
http://forum.folding-community.org/ ---community boards
http://folding.stanford.edu/science.html --- science
http://folding.stanford.edu/education/ --- education
http://folding.stanford.edu/stats.html ---stats
http://www.statsman.org/folding2stats/ ---statsman stats
http://www.overclockers.ws ---our page
http://folding.stanford.edu/faq.html ---Stanfords FAQ
http://folding.stanford.edu/psummary.html ---currently running projects
http://folding.stanford.edu/results.html ---results page
http://folding.stanford.edu/news.html ---stanford news page
http://folding.stanford.edu/science.html#disease --related diseases
http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html ---download page
http://folding.stanford.edu/gromacs.html ---gromacs
http://www.gromacs.org/ ---gromacs
http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=113687 ---gromacs info thread
--- help@foldingathome.stanford.edu --- stanford's folding email

hope this info can help you in getting your school to fold!! if not, there are man others that have had to go through some gauntlets trying to get there business/schools up and folding, and i am sure they can give you lots of advise on it. ask anything and anyone here would be more than happy to give you a hand with the situation!!

[xvi3tsoljahx]

i have 3 computers at school folding for team 32... it will only fold when me and my friends log on through. It helps hey =P

[NASsoccer]

Originally posted by xvi3tsoljahx
i have 3 computers at school folding for team 32... it will only fold when me and my friends log on through. It helps hey =P

it surely does:) good to hear 3 more comps have been brought into the fold!! keep the rigs coming and keep feeding the addiction:)

about the log on thing, it is because you don't have admin rights or what?

FOLD ON
NAS

[xvi3tsoljahx]

yeah, no admin rights... i use to have the password..... he changed it =X

[NASsoccer]

Originally posted by xvi3tsoljahx
yeah, no admin rights... i use to have the password..... he changed it =X

ah! well... 1 hr, 10 hrs , 24/7 , 5 min a day ... as long as it folds, i surely won't complain:D and i know stanford won't either ;)

FOLD ON
NAS