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RoadWarrior
09-03-02, 08:21 AM
Hi guys,

Just signed up last night, installed the F@H client on my k6-2-450 and left it running overnight, and it did, a whole....
6 percent!?

I mean 6 percent in 10 hours, with nothing else running???

At this rate it would take damn near 7 days for one WU with nothing else running. So, did I get a bum WU or something??? Or is something very not configured right here. Seeing on the F@H site the guestimate that a PIII 500 would do one in 3 hours I figured I should have been seeing at least 2 WU done overnight.

The WU name is p180_enghomeoGB if that tells anyone anything and it's running on the FahCore_65.exe

Thanks for any words of wisdom.

Road Warrior

-] anGrY [-
09-03-02, 08:36 AM
Hate to say this, but a K6-2 downright bites for crunching anything. It will take a week or so to crunch the tougher ones. Not knowing the details, but I get some WU's that gag my Athlon XP for 12+hrs of crunch time! This snippet from the FAQ may help put it in perspective:

How you decide how much credit a work unit is worth?

How you decide how much credit a work unit is worth?


From Stanford:
We benchmark each unit such that a 400 MHZ Pentium III can finish a work unit worth 1.0 credits in 1 day. Shorter and longer units are credited appropriately.

Soooo, if it takes 4-5 days to complete that WU, you may only get a half a point or less for it........ I had a Celeron 566 folding, but at 2-3 days a WU, I couldnt stand it. It's reitred.
Dont get me wrong, keep folding by all means. But with a K6-2 it will be slooowwww going. Keep on!!!

RoadWarrior
09-03-02, 09:04 AM
Phew just found a list of what stuff is worth and that one gets a 12 day timeout and 5.6 points, so I'm not quite so worried now. It's a biggie.

NASsoccer
09-03-02, 11:20 AM
yeah stanford usually allows a good amount of time to get the WU's back, espcially the big ones, i have a couple of k6-2's going for me and while they are tough little folders, they often get beat to death unitl the tenth round and have to pull a rocky to get out of it ;)

FOLD ON
NAS

rich99million
09-03-02, 03:20 PM
lol - nice terminology NAS :D


FOLD ON!!!

TheDS
09-03-02, 10:45 PM
I was wondering about that. I figured maybe they had some optimized code for Intel, cuz out of 6 units (including the two I'm running now) I've seen, each one requires about 15 hours of processor time on a XP1900 (1.6GHz). But the two I finished last night netted me 11.18 points, and the two I just turned in aren't tabulated yet, but will probably bring me up to about 22. Nice to know that in 15 hours' time I did 11 days' worth of P2-400 work!!

Now how do you tell how long the timeout is? I have a K6-3@450 that I'd like to use, but it would take AT LEAST 60 hours to do one of these things (guess based solely on clock) and I had read that there was a 2-day timeout (like, probably next to where it implied I would be cranking these things out in about 30 minutes). I take it that's not the case then...?

Anyone know?

Thanks.

NASsoccer
09-03-02, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by TheDS


Now how do you tell how long the timeout is? I have a K6-3@450 that I'd like to use, but it would take AT LEAST 60 hours to do one of these things (guess based solely on clock) and I had read that there was a 2-day timeout (like, probably next to where it implied I would be cranking these things out in about 30 minutes). I take it that's not the case then...?

Anyone know?

Thanks.

you can find the deadlines for WU here : http://folding.stanford.edu/psummary.html

the 450 should be more than fine, some have p200s running and barely making the deadlines ;)

FOLD ON
NAS

Lt. Max
09-03-02, 11:27 PM
mab u can overclock that k6-2 a lil to make it faster :D

RoadWarrior
09-04-02, 06:34 AM
That would be nice, the board is all out of clock speeds and multis though, the manual says the fastest CPU you can get on it's a P233, It's a K6-2 400 doing 50 over spec now. Actually it's gonna get demoted to a K6-333 when I do a swap around, and the 400 will go on a board that should be capable of taking it to 500. So if the o/c gods are smiling on me, I should then have 3 k6-2s running 333oc400, 380oc500 and 400oc500. Tryna figure if the FPU on a winchip 2B is strong enough to bother trying to use. I know the original winchip was terrible in the fpu dept. This is 233 spec, and I figure being about the latest they made of the 2Bs it might be o/c able to 266-290. Also got a K6-233 that might get there, trouble is I have to underclock it otherwise it's in danger of blowing the voltage regs on the only board I've got for it. . . . . . .

The XP will weigh in eventually, it's not networked while it's in the workshop getting heavily modded.

mustangman
09-04-02, 02:49 PM
Give the winchip a shot and see what happens and let us know.

RoadWarrior
09-05-02, 09:21 AM
Will do.

Hmmmph!

Got a second machine going last night, it got a De Novo protein, (5 points 10d t/o) only did 3% in 9 hours, damn that ones slow. This is on a k6-2-400. Why am I getting all the big buggers on these poor little K6-2s? How do you flush them? I don't think that one will make the 10 day deadline unless it really picks up speed.

This kinda bites for staying in the compo too, 's'kinda looking like I'll turn in a lump of points every couple of weeks instead of 5 a week steady. :rolleyes:

Oh well, just have to keep throwing machines at it or something. ... ... ...

Road Warrior

TheDS
09-06-02, 01:22 AM
Maybe you can delete the WORK folder it creates? I would bet that would do it.

kajj
09-06-02, 01:59 AM
if you run it on your main rig (top one in your sig), you will most definitely get the 5 points a week. even if you only run it during the day/night.

RoadWarrior
09-08-02, 05:48 PM
I would be running it on my main rig, but I have issues getting it on the net at the moment, involving needing to get a server/router box going, developing it's cooling so that it will survive the 36C ambient up here in my bedroom, and/or, stringing 70ft of network cable to the basement and back. To some extent I am using it on my main rig, still actually doing everything on the K6-2, just gaming and tweaking the XP at the moment.

Anyhoo that will all come together eventually.

Right now, the 450 is getting ready to turn in this protein results tonight sometime, and the other is at about 30% on that de novo. Looks like with leapfrogging each other they'll manage to put in 5 points a week and turn in 10 every 3 weeks if these large/high point proteins keep coming.


Hmm still dunno if that 400 is gonna make it, seeing as how it's coming up to 4 days up and done only 30% with a 10 day t/o. That one's gonna hafta pull a Rocky pretty damn soon. Hmm forgot what bus I was running that on though, if it's loafing on an easy 6x66 I'll try kicking the bus to 75 and AS3 it. . . . .

Road Warrior

RoadWarrior
09-08-02, 09:06 PM
Darn, sucky K6-2-380 has been burned in for at least 8 months at 400Mhz, figured it was ready for 450 now, so stuck on a massive (for socket 7) passive heatsink from a Compaq, with a 60MM Delta fan bolted to the top, AS3ed it, banged the bus to 75, laxed off mem timings and got freakin VMM errors when I got to windows, bummer! :( :( :(

Might be the EDO RAM, thought I used to have this board at 83Mhz though. Probably should look up the voltage reg settings again. See if a .2V boost will get it peachy. Trouble is, I could only seem to get a K6-2 to post in the 2.25-2.32 range last time I tried them.... P55iT2P4s.... bah! ;)
erm, end rant.

Road Warrior

muddocktor
09-08-02, 11:21 PM
I have a K6-2+ proc folding @ 550 and it will turn in about 8-10 points per week and also my brother's K6-3+ @ 600 will turn in a solid 10 points per week. These are both running on a 100 fsb with SDRAM though, no EDO for them.:)

rich99million
09-09-02, 06:23 AM
I just read your post here: http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=120919

are you running a screensaver on the k6-2-400?
that would explain why it has been so slow i would think, if you can't select low-power for the monitor (depending on age and OS i guess) then use the "Blank Screen" screensaver as that should save you some serious folding time.


Rich

RoadWarrior
09-09-02, 11:37 AM
$#@%*@&@$&#$@! !!!!!!!

It was at 95% when I wnet to bed, this morning it looked I'd just got a new WU, great I thought, but......

Last report I can see in the logfile is 95 frames completed (out of 100)
Then there's a load of crap about not finding the work files. ... ... ...

No report of uploading finished unit (what should I be looking for anyway)
Then it gets a new unit. . .... .... ....

Have I just lost a weeks worth of crunching here?????

Road Warrior