Introducing The AthlonXP 2300+ 2500+ 2700+ And 2900+

[OC-Master]

AthlonXP 2300+/1833MHz

AthlonXP 2500+/2000MHz

AthlonXP 2700+/2166MHz

AthlonXP 2900+/2333MHz


All four of these CPUs are based upon AMDs 333FSB SocketA design and are powered by the Thoroughbred B core. By Christmas this year, all models listed above will be availiable for purchase.

http://www.k-hardware.de/

http://www.amd.com/


Along with the release of the XP2900+, AMD will introduce yet one more XP based on the 266FSB which is the XP2800+ and this CPU runs at 2266MHz.

AMD also plans to introduce first quarter of next year, the Barton AthlonXP which has a XP model of 2800+ and 3000+ and also runs on the 333FSB but now features SOI and 256KB of additional L2 Cache.


DS-Master

[Emericana]

OMFG the pr rating is so damn confusing!

doh!

[OC Detective]

As with most release dates that AMD have come out with recently I take these ones with a pinch of salt - as there track record is not very good. What part of the AMD website mentions this - I checked and cannot find out!

[OC-Master]

Originally posted by Emericana
OMFG the pr rating is so damn confusing!

doh!


Hey,

I was confused and was wondering what happened to the XP2300 and 2500+, at least now I know what CPU takes these titles.

Now, I hear that these CPUs are gonna fly out the door even faster than before because people are saying that Barton is still on track for Christmas.


OC Detective,

You have a very good point but now remember that now that the B version T-breds are out, increasing the performance of the Athlons will become a simple breeze. I see no reason for the lack of at least 2900+ by christmas. BTW, the AMD site, I was reffering to the Barton CPUs which can be identified in the AMD CPU roadmap.


DS-Master

[OC Detective]

I wouldnt say it was out right now - arent they doing the testing on the 333's this month? Besides remember the initial debacle surrounding the launch of the 2200's? In February it was going to be within 5 weeks, then in April it was pushed backed to May, then in May it was June 10th - actual availability? END OF JULY!

[Mr. $T$]

At this point the barton sounds cool only because of the larger di size, Better cooling, and more cache now that chip will FLY. ;)

[DaddyB]

Cant wait to see some barton benches but Intel isnt giving up the fight, they are going to be releasing the P4 3.06Ghz next week. By the time the Bartons are out Intel will likely have a 3.2ghz chip ready to ship.

[dropadrop]

Intell are really picking up speed with their releases. I wonder how far they will be able to raise the speed of the current core? I don't really see it going above 3.2-3.4 ghz as is.

Does anyone have an idea on what they have up their sleve? Just upgrades to the current core? Or are they allready starting to move to .09?

[OC-Master]

The Last Pentium4 will be 3.20GHz 533FSB

The next generation Prescott (Pentium5) uses a 666FSB and starts with 3.20GHz and 3.33GHz based on an advanced 0.09Micron Core. Prescott hits the market next summer.


DS-Master

[BinarySuperman]

oh man im gonna save up for the xp2900 a kt333 mobo and some nice 166mhz ram.

[ReTiCuLeX]

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[donny_paycheck]

Originally posted by Mr. $T$
At this point the barton sounds cool only because of the larger di size, Better cooling, and more cache now that chip will FLY. ;)

That's what I'm thinking.

According to this article (http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/Article.asp?datePublish=2002/09/04&pages=04&seq=16) that was linked to on the front page, we will see Bartons in early October! Can I say.....w00t!!!!

But:
Originally posted by OC Detective
As with most release dates that AMD have come out with recently I take these ones with a pinch of salt - as there track record is not very good.
I agree with this. We'll see what they can deliver. I don't have many high hopes after their delay with the Thoroughbred.

[Steelforge]

I take it back.

Hold your money til mid-January.

Prices should start dropping after the xmas rush.

[Scottland]

i would hold out for hammer. aside from all the great things that x86-64 should bring along, hammer is going to be a .013 micron SOI chip. SOI is the new technology here. Silicon on Insulator. It is a whole new breed of silicon chips. these cpus will run incrediably cool compared to everything we see today, assuming the SOI technology is implemented correctly. the moral of all this fancy technology is obviously very very cool running cores, so therefore lots of overclocking potental. :D :D

i would say run your current palomino or t-bred until hammer.

barton should be a good transiton because the small L2 cache is slowing the athlon down.

but if barton looks really good. hammer will look greeaaattt.

[JigPu]

I heard that the hammer will only have 256K of L2. Mabey I'm remembering wrong, but if that's true, wouldn't it be a cache downgrade from the Barton (you guys said an addidional 256K, meaning 512K L2 total)??

JigPu

[donny_paycheck]

Originally posted by JigPu
I heard that the hammer will only have 256K of L2.

256k and 512k. (http://www.xbitlabs.com/cpu/hammer-preview/) I don't know why they're even entertaining 256k of L2.

[Lt. Max]

Originally posted by donny_paycheck


256k and 512k. (http://www.xbitlabs.com/cpu/hammer-preview/) I don't know why they're even entertaining 256k of L2.

to sell it cheaper mab?
how much does cache cost on a chip?

[ssprncvegeta]

any idea what the price of the first 64bit clawhammer will be? i hope its not more than $400, being that AMD usually has incredible value.

another thing, if the clawhammer comes out the end of this year or early next year, will they still being calling it like 2200+ to match the 2.2GHz, so ppl buy their products, or will they go back to the original where their, ex: 3.0GHz AMD = 3.0GHz Intel?

[kevmarks]

I think hammers are scheduled for second quarter of 2003. I am not anticipating upgrading for an awfull long time yet. But in the meantime I will have a huge (22") monitor uprade before christmas. :D

[OC-Master]

The AMD Athlon-64 (Clawhammer) is scheduled for March 2003. It will come in three flavours at launch (2.2GHz, 2.4GHz and 2.6GHz) with PR ratings of 3400+, 3600+ and 3800+.

As for cache, first generation Clawhammers all feature 512KB of L2 cache and later will move to 1MB of L2 cache as soon a 0.13M SOI technology becomes available.


DS-Master

[ssprncvegeta]

any idea of what the price's will be(god damnit, i thought clawhammer was coming out soon....oh well, i guess since i'm back in school i can wait till summer break...a whole school year away...)

lots of companies made the 333FSP motherboard long before AMD even announced release date of 333FSB CPU's, how come they[mobo companies] haven't started on 64bit mobo's

=/

that 3600+ would look awefully nice if it were under $400, i'd get it in a heartbeat. along with a mob's with the works: AGP8X, at least six USB 2.0's, firewall, etc.

it all started when i just wanted to get a geforce 4200 when it was new. but then i didnt have a AGP slot. so i wanted a new mobo. but i'd need new memory and CPU. and the rest is history. i've learned alot about computer(being that im in 3 advanced computer classes dealing with hardware and programming).

...w00t?

[UnseenMenace]

The 333 Athlons are expected not to overclock well as they are basically the processors that we allready own except it is AMD who is increasing the FSB and dropping the multiplier and not you
Why buy what you already have.. wait for Thoroughbred imho

[ssprncvegeta]

the 333FBS was just an example. i want the 64bit clawhammer. i just said that they had 333mobo's a long time before actual AMD's with 333FSB. will that same sace happen with 64bit mobo's?

[Deliximus]

all Hammers are ALREADY using SOI .13 micron process...

DS-Master, 3800+ at launch? i hope so, since amd shoudl try to make a bigger diff b/w its k8 and k7-barton

[Arkaine23]

Going from 166 to around 200 FSB is only a marginal overclock, less even than going from 133 to 166 is percentage-wise. We will need new motherboards (for either 1/6 divisor or higher multiplyers and preferably both) in order to get the most from these cpu's. It would also take better memory to hit 230+ FSB reliably. this will affect any decision you make when thinking about upgrading to a Tbred B 166FSB or Barton if you're thinking about running it on a kt333 (and possibly kt400) mothebroard.

And I wanna be absolutely certain in how these unlock, and what multiplyers can be manually set on whatever my next motherboard might be.

[ssprncvegeta]

bad thing about not having a job and getting paid by parents(yes, and mowing neighbor's lawns) is that u never have enough/any money.

i remember getting my computer 2 years ago. didnt have a clue about them b/s using it for aol and jedi knight: dark forces 2. now i mod, OC, put computers together from scratch(using dad's old(er) computer, may it rest in peace). i even make my own games using other ppl's game engines(getting around to making those for myself too but theyre hard). advanced visual stuff, etc., i still suck at OC. only thing i HAVE oc was my dad's 1mb pci video card. got it up a tad, not that it can play quake 3(hell, even quake1 or doom lagged like mad). all the reason to be a better OC'er.

why buy technology if it outdates itself in a matter of months. make them better. we have the know-how, we have the power. lets make this sorry ass hardware shine one more time