Best Radiator.

[Kaneda]

post your opinions on different radiators, that you would think will work best for me or are just straight up awesome radiators.
pretty much i want alot of flow like 250gph (im assuming thats alot for a small enclosed system like a computer) but if its going that fast, some radiators might not be able to cool the water. so i need a radiator that can cool water REALLY FAST and REALLY COLD. if i cant have that im looking for something that will make my water ICE cold. im looking for extremely low temps when done with this.


any help appreciated
Thanks,
Drew

[Skulemate]

Firstly, there are no radiators that require the flow to be slow so that they can cool the water fast enough... that's a myth. Radiators are heat exchangers, just like waterblocks, and as such they benefit from higher flowrates just as much (though BillA has shown that there are some radiators that do have a wierd peak in efficiency at lower flow rates). Also, air flow through the fins is probablly more crucial than having massive fluid flow through the rad.

I'm not sure if you've seen any of BillA's graphs showing the block's cooling performance vs. flow rate, but from what I've seen you're getting diminishing returns past 2.5-3 gpm... so aiming for 4+ gpm is silliness. You'll spend so much on a pump that can do this that's it's really not going to be worth it... you're much better off buying a pump and then fine tuning a system to its capabilities.

Finally, if by really cold you mean ambient (or close to it) then your best bet is likely a heatercore (or two) with some decent fans on them... that's more than enough for a single CPU, or a CPU and GPU combo. If you seriously mean ice cold then you'll need pelts (perhaps a stretch even with these? I dunno, I'm not a pelt fan myself) or a chiller of some sort... or maybe a reservoir with ice in it... :D

[Kaneda]

well i actually just decided to go with a kit, i was looking at innovateks kit

linkage (http://www.highspeedpc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HSPC&Product_Code=H2OkitAMD&Category_Code=Kits)

i read the overclockers review on it, and i think this is my best bet for this system im building and maybe my next system i will further into pelting or build some kind of giant freezer as a case housing lol.

o/c review linkage (http://www.overclockers.com/articles545/)
great article

Drew

[aabtek]

in your case I would not recomend the innovatek kit!

- the waterblock is not peltier compatible without modding the retention mechanism
- the pump is about the least powerfull you can get away with.
- the radiator is not exactly great

[Wicked Klown]

Originally posted by aabtek
in your case I would not recomend the innovatek kit!

- the waterblock is not peltier compatible without modding the retention mechanism
- the pump is about the least powerfull you can get away with.
- the radiator is not exactly great


He can upgarde the pump at the web site and opt for no rad then get another at any site he would like.

[aabtek]

then it is not the kit ....

If you really want to go hardcore with peltier and all that stuff, I still think you would be better of with some dangerden or similar highflow blocks and a heatercore or more ....

[Kaneda]

i was looking at DD, does this sound like a sweet setup?

maze3 - copper top
blackice xtreme rad 1/2"
papst 120mm 4pin (good or could i find something else better?)
120w pelt + neoprene
eheim 1048
artic silver 3
stainless steel option for holddown
chrome fittings (not exactly important but i felt like listing it, lol)

[Kaneda]

actually decided on the 226w pelt with neo. its not that much more and if im going to do this, might as well go all the way.

now how do give power to the pelt??

is there like a tutorial/review on general pelting.

[Wicked Klown]

That kit sounds better. With the fan you can find ones better (http://sidewindercomputers.com/ystech120mm.html) . Also you might want to upgrade the pump to a Eheim 1250. They sell PSU's for the pelt at DangerDen (http://dangerden.com/mall/peltiers.asp)

[nikhsub1]

Originally posted by Klownin79
... Also you might want to upgrade the pump to a Eheim 1250...
Uh, just so EVERYONE knows, I swapped my Eheim 1048 for the 1250 and saw my temps GO UP! Go with the 1048, it is smaller and puts way less heat into the system.

[SkiFletch]

well, that sounds like a good setup, but dont go with the BI extreme. they are just re-badged heatercores on which BI jacks the price. go to DTek (http://www.dtekcustoms.com) and get one of their heatercores with shrouds. its the same heatercore, but for less. also, if you're going the pelt route, you will need some good fans on the radiator to remove all that heat.

if you're really serious about radiators, look up BillA's article on the main page about radiators. he did a radiator roundup and shows you the good and bad ones. dont forget, you can turn to the automotive, aircraft, and air conditioning industries for radiator products as well. I myself am using the Serck radiator that is in BillA's review. got it off EBay. thing runs great FANLESS. just food for thought.

[Kaneda]

i was thinking about building a box to house the pump outside of my computer for any heat producing items.

pretty much my idea was to take a cheap case or build something custom, cut holes for fans (as many as i can fit) and put those items inside it, see how that works. oh and fill those holes with fans hehe

[Kaneda]

Serck radiator, i will check into that. and i cant find billA's articles.. i looked last night.

[Pcmod]

Ok, heres the deal. Go with my great big 19x9x4 radiator and two 330 AC 174 mm fans. I havn't tried it cause I am waiting on the eheim 600gph pump, and a maze-3 block, and tygon tubing!!

[attydoc]

I just bought a Melcor MLA 270 DH1 - 115 thermoelectric recirculating cooling system.

It is really an industrial chiller with the specs listed below. I got it for less than $300.00 (list price is $2000.00!!!) but it shouldn't give me any headaches, at least on the water-cooling end. I am planning a P4 or heavy duty T-bird overclock. Since this will be my first liquid overclock, any help with regard to selection of water blocks and other stuff would be appreciated.

Thanks,
David

This 270 watts, 115v liquid chiller is capable of laser cooling! The Melcor MLA 270 has vast applications in various scientific and medical fields. This particular MLA 270 has a High-Accuracy Digital Controller +/- .25 „aC. It has been designed to use either water or coolant solution. The MLA is quiet and compact(26 lbs.), emits no ozone depleting CFC¡¦s and has been approved by UL, CSA, and CE. Operating Temperature Range = 40 Degrees F to 113 Degrees F or 4.4 to 45 Degrees C Control Temperature Range = 35 to 104 Degrees F or 2 to 40 Degrees C Reservoir Capacity = .08 gallons/300ml Chiller Fluid Capacity = .12gallons/450ml.

[Kaneda]

Originally posted by Pcmod
Ok, heres the deal. Go with my great big 19x9x4 radiator and two 330 AC 174 mm fans.


where do i get "your" great big 19x9x4 rad!?

[jdmcnudgent]

i personally like the chevy chevette core my self.:D

[attydoc]

I just bought a Melcor MLA 270 DH1 - 115 thermoelectric recirculating cooling system.

It is really an industrial chiller with the specs listed below. I got it for less than $300.00 but it shouldn't give me any headaches, at least on the water-cooling end. I am planning a P4 or heavy duty T-bird overclock. Since this will be my first liquid overclock, any help with regard to selection of water blocks and other stuff would be appreciated.

Thanks,
David

This 270 watts, 115v liquid chiller is capable of laser cooling! The Melcor MLA 270 has vast applications in various scientific and medical fields. This particular MLA 270 has a High-Accuracy Digital Controller +/- .25 „aC. It has been designed to use either water or coolant solution. The MLA is quiet and compact(26 lbs.), emits no ozone depleting CFC¡¦s and has been approved by UL, CSA, and CE. Operating Temperature Range = 40 Degrees F to 113 Degrees F or 4.4 to 45 Degrees C Control Temperature Range = 35 to 104 Degrees F or 2 to 40 Degrees C Reservoir Capacity = .08 gallons/300ml Chiller Fluid Capacity = .12gallons/450ml.

[Penguin4x4]

This (http://www.hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTAzMTg1ODU4NVo2MkVuek5CSExfMV8xX 2wuanBn)

[Kaneda]

LOL thats huge!!!

[Pcmod]

Heres is my post with all pics about it
http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1034868#post1034868