View Full Version : Coming up VERY soon Pentium4 2,66 C1......
Yeap......I have ordered a brand new Pentium4 2,66 C1 stepping already and I'm just waiting right now for it.....I hope that's a good CPU as my P4 2,26GHz one....I wish for that....!!!!!....:) ...I bet I can do about 3,2GHz to 3,4GHz stable with my whole rig....
Wish me luck guys....I'll start to post as soon as this CPU arrives.....Please make it quick UPS guys.....We do not have those CPU here in Greece yet so I had to order it from somewere else.....And gess what.......nooooo....I won't tell you guys...you'll see it.....he,he,he.......:D :beer:
*whistles* another C1 thug *whistles*
LandShark
09-13-02, 01:19 PM
good to hear that!! and be sure to keep us info!!
i myself is also thinking 'bout a C1 2.66 or a 2.8 and hoping for 3.2g+....
good luck buddy!!;)
Thanks guys......:beer:
I also want to inform you that this CPU has something "special".....No more words....SSSSShhhhhh.....!!!!!....;)
I'll get it tommorow at noon....As soon I put it on my rig I'll post the first shots....I hope that this CPU can do much more than I'm expecting to..... :D
I wish you luck...and a stable 3,5GHZ !!!!
jdmcnudgent
09-14-02, 10:36 AM
posts results.
Originally posted by TASOS
I wish you luck...and a stable 3,5GHZ !!!!
Thanks TASOS......:beer:
I GOT IT ..... I GOT IT..... :D
Now....Let's start posting shots.....
This is the back side of the CPU.... :D
Oooohhhhh...This photos geting smaller and smaller every day....:(
This is WCPUID.....Default......
WCPUID again ....Default.....
Have you noticed something "strange" at those two WCPUID's...???? :D
Now let's see what can this beauty do at an Arithmetic S-Sandra bench.......I think it's OK......for now....
S-Sandra Multimedia......
At this point I just want to say that S-Sandra has to make a "patch" just for me cause if you take a GOOD look at the score(wich I did over 5 times) you'll see that says : INT 30383...This isn't possible of caurse......I think I've just ripped S-Sandra ribs off......
jazztrumpet216
09-14-02, 12:09 PM
Looks like an unlocked multiplier, though I can barely read the screenshots. Try uploading them to a server like www.theforumisdown.com and then linking them with the [IMG ] tags.
Do you really think that I do need an RDRAM for this rig...????.....Well I don't....!!!!.....S-Sandra Memory bench.....Corsair XMS3200 C2 at 250MHz(500MHz DDR) with Cas 2,5-3-3-7..... :D
Better look
http://www.houseofhelp.com/v2/attachment.php?s=&postid=32863
Originally posted by jazztrumpet216
Looks like an unlocked multiplier, though I can barely read the screenshots. Try uploading them to a server like www.theforumisdown.com and then linking them with the [IMG ] tags.
Yes...You're right.....It's an unlocked Pentium4 2,66GHz.....
I'll upload the shots at my server and I'll give you links for that later.....;)
jdmcnudgent
09-14-02, 12:36 PM
wanted to try it.http://www.theforumisdown.com/uploadfiles/0802/Picture 019.jpg
jdmcnudgent
09-14-02, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by jazztrumpet216
Looks like an unlocked multiplier, though I can barely read the screenshots. Try uploading them to a server like www.theforumisdown.com and then linking them with the [IMG ] tags. thanks for the tip buddie, i love it.:D
jdmcnudgent
09-14-02, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by hipro5
Yes...You're right.....It's an unlocked Pentium4 2,66GHz.....
I'll upload the shots at my server and I'll give you links for that later.....;) where did you order the chip from?? and did you just get lucky and get a unlocked chip???:cool:
Hey jd...What's that photo????
Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
where did you order the chip from?? and did you just get lucky and get a unlocked chip???:cool:
No jd......It's an unlocked "Intel Confidential" Pentium4 2,66GHz....It was given to me by a friend of mine.....:D
jdmcnudgent
09-14-02, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by hipro5
Hey jd...What's that photo???? that is the backof my modded ati 8500.:D kool on the chip, you got some nice friends.:D
Yeap....In about a month from now he'll send me the same but 3,06GHz with the Hyper Threading stuff......:D
jdmcnudgent
09-14-02, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by hipro5
Yeap....In about a month from now he'll send me the same but 3,06GHz with the Hyper Threading stuff......:D ****drool****, then can i get the 2.666???:p
We'll talk about it man.....:D
I'm geting my Prometeia in a few days and I just wonder how high could this CPU do...!!!...:eek:
LandShark
09-14-02, 01:16 PM
WOW!!! great & congrats!!! :eek: :beer:
now, can u get me one of those too?? ;)
Originally posted by LandShark
WOW!!! great & congrats!!! :eek: :beer:
now, can u get me one of those too?? ;)
He has(my friend) a P4 2,8GHz unlocked too....:D
Awesome! This is a little more substance to back up my theory that RDRAM starts getting flakey above 155 FSB. I just knew these 2.66 CPUs would do 3.2-3.3 gig on air.
Hipro, can you tell me what voltage you need in order to run a completely stable 3.1 gig? I want to compare it to the 1.7v I need on my 2.66 Northy at that speed. Also, what voltage are you running at 3.3 gig, thanks.
Originally posted by batboy
Awesome! This is a little more substance to back up my theory that RDRAM starts getting flakey above 155 FSB. I just knew these 2.66 CPUs would do 3.2-3.3 gig on air.
Hipro, can you tell me what voltage you need in order to run a completely stable 3.1 gig? I want to compare it to the 1.7v I need on my 2.66 Northy at that speed. Also, what voltage are you running at 3.3 gig, thanks.
At 3168MHz I have 1,675Vcore....At 3305MHz I gave 1,775VCore(NO MORE...afraid off...:D)...My temp at 3168MHz is 39C full load.... :)
GJ hipro, is it prime stable? because my ES chip doesnt last too long when running the torture test.....windows is very stable and doesnt crash but when i run prime it gives an error right on the first test no matter what voltage i give it.....what is the week of the CPU?
Congrats hipro, nice OC bro :beer: .. now we compete - The war has begun! hehehe..
I'm at home right now and I can't post anything else..I'll post tomorow...I've left my rig at work crunching SETI...I think it is stable enough for the time been...I'll check it back tomorow when I go to work....I just hope it'll still works...........:)
Originally posted by pacino
Congrats hipro, nice OC bro :beer: .. now we compete - The war has begun! hehehe..
Endaksie pacino...!!!!....:burn:
My 2.66 run windows and will do Sandra benchmarks using 1.65v at 3.1 gig, but won't stay stable with Prime95 unless I use 1.7v. Sounds like you have a little better CPU than mine, but those ES chips often have cherry picked cores.
I bet mine would run close to 3.3 gig with a BD7 mobo and Corsair XMS3200 DDR (if I cranked up the voltage). However, I'm not going to buy a new mobo and RAM just to overclock another 150 MHz. I've been running my system at 3 gig most of the time lately and it's blazing fast. Does everything I want and more. It seems happy at 3 gig... rock stable, cool (45-47), and uses only 1.6v.
Hey Hipro does your friend sell the 2.8 ?????
err batboy....i think ES chips are worse then retail because ES chips are prototypes and retails should be better because if they werent, a lot of ppl would be using the intel warranty.....u kno what i mean? i havent seen any posts about OCing p4 2.5 C1 but mines doesnt like to OC at all. but i do like the fact i will be running my memory to its fullest potential....i have a 22nd week C1 2.5 or 2.53 ES chip. whats ur week?
My 2.66 is a retail Malaysia week 28 CPU, S-spec SL6DX. The ES chips are usually exceptional cores at the time they're made. Very early in the production run (like right now with the C1 stepping) the ES chips are pretty good because Intel wants to impress the reviewers and testers. Later on, the retail C1 CPUs will keep getting better yielding cores and soon will be much better than those limited made, early prototype ES CPUs. So, that part you're right about. Does that make sense? Not sure if I got my point across or if I just rambled.
Take a look at that in FULL STABLE MODE
http://www.hipro5.com/public/Benchies/Pentium4_2,66GHz/WCPUID_3560_png.png
LandShark
09-16-02, 01:00 PM
just one word i have for u buddy............... Awesome!!!! :eek: :eek: :burn: :burn:
nice hipro....what voltage are u using to get it up there and stable?
Men......This is ONLY with 1,725VCore........But.......on a Prometeia Cooling System...... :D
Full load -8C .....And I've got more.....I've ALWAYS got MORE...... ......
P.S. Landsark I'll post later the SETI bench for you but "upload" something man for our competitives in the other forum...!!!...You'll get "CRAZY" :D :beer:
That is AWESOME!!! .. I think I'm going to wrap my chip and go for 4Ghz LOL! .. this is her @ 1.6v only
http://www.mwvision.com/benchmark/3.33sandra.jpg
PS. Went DDR :P
Originally posted by pacino
That is AWESOME!!! .. I think I'm going to wrap my chip and go for 4Ghz LOL! .. this is her @ 1.6v only
http://www.mwvision.com/benchmark/3.33sandra.jpg
PS. Went DDR :P
The vid-pin modding didn't worked for me either.....We have to find out a new vid-pin modding for Pentium4 C1 stepping.....
Well done for you going to DDR for you man......Your memory bandwidth is a bit low.....:( ...Have you done the memory burn-in???.....;)
OK.....Let's see know.......First a S-Sandra Arithmetic bench..... http://www.hipro5.com/public/Benchies/Pentium4_2,66GHz/Arithmetic3560_png.png
And a S-Sandra Multimedia bench........The score got "crazy".....As I told to a previus post...Sandra has to "make" a patch for me......
http://www.hipro5.com/public/Benchies/Pentium4_2,66GHz/Multimedia3560_png.png
A PCMark2002 CPU and Memory bench at 3515MHz.....
http://www.hipro5.com/public/Benchies/Pentium4_2,66GHz/PCMark2002_3515_png.png
That's for now....I'll run more benches and I'll get back to you......:D
Ahhhh....I almost forgot.....Memory bandwidth at lower frequency.....512Mb Corsair XMS3200 C2 at 250MHz(500MHz DDR) with Cas 2,5-3-3-7 T2....
http://www.hipro5.com/public/Benchies/Pentium4_2,66GHz/mem250_2,5-3-3-7_png.png
Now realy tell me.....Do I need RDRAM...????.....
Originally posted by hipro5
The vid-pin modding didn't worked for me either.....We have to find out a new vid-pin modding for Pentium4 C1 stepping.....
Well done for you going to DDR for you man......Your memory bandwidth is a bit low.....:( ...Have you done the memory burn-in???.....;)
Not yet, brand new stick I got this mornin' :)
Originally posted by pacino
Not yet, brand new stick I got this mornin' :)
Don't "leave" it....Burn it EMEDIATELY ...;)
jdmcnudgent
09-16-02, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by pacino
That is AWESOME!!! .. I think I'm going to wrap my chip and go for 4Ghz LOL! .. this is her @ 1.6v only
http://www.mwvision.com/benchmark/3.33sandra.jpg
PS. Went DDR :P give me some of the chit you are smokin bro, that chip AINT gonna do 4 gigs on air, or in the vapochill.:(
1200mhz oc, no way bro, MAYBE if you were using a 2.26.:(
jdmcnudgent
09-16-02, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by hipro5
OK.....Let's see know.......First a S-Sandra Arithmetic bench..... that is just simply amazing.:D
jdmcnudgent
09-16-02, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by hipro5
Ahhhh....I almost forgot.....Memory bandwidth at lower frequency.....512Mb Corsair XMS3200 C2 at 250MHz(500MHz DDR) with Cas 2,5-3-3-7 T2....
[IMG] but, how long will that crunch seti for before it is going back for rma???
jdmcnudgent
09-16-02, 07:55 PM
forgot to tell you bud, great overclock.i think that you are the new big dogg here on the forum.:D
LandShark
09-16-02, 08:45 PM
jd, hipro did a benchie w/ his sig. rig and had the fastest time of 2:25min!!! and that's our current record holder!! i'll be updating the benchie either tonight or 2morrow.
HOWEVER, don't get too happy hipro, just found a guy who IS beating your time by quite a good margin!! so, turn in your new found TOY's result soon!! ;)
jdmcnudgent
09-16-02, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by LandShark
jd, hipro did a benchie w/ his sig. rig and had the fastest time of 2:25min!!! and that's our current record holder!! i'll be updating the benchie either tonight or 2morrow.
HOWEVER, don't get too happy hipro, just found a guy who IS beating your time by quite a good margin!! so, turn in your new found TOY's result soon!! ;) i need help doning it. will do it right now.
jdmcnudgent
09-16-02, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
i need help doning it. will do it right now. its going right now, and i had to give up 89% of a wu. but i will email tomorrow.:D
Originally posted by LandShark
jd, hipro did a benchie w/ his sig. rig and had the fastest time of 2:25min!!! and that's our current record holder!! i'll be updating the benchie either tonight or 2morrow.
HOWEVER, don't get too happy hipro, just found a guy who IS beating your time by quite a good margin!! so, turn in your new found TOY's result soon!! ;)
I'm Bencing SETI bench right now at 3420MHz(not to push harder my rig).....I'll keep you informed.....:D
Noone can beat Overclockers.com :D :beer:
LandShark
09-16-02, 09:05 PM
the P4T533 actually is a killer board.......................IF it runs!! i know a guy who did the fastest (our) seti benchie wu is actually using the P4T533 but he had to heavily mod. it to get it stable (mainly board circuit 'cos heard it doesn't provide enough voltage etc.)
his time? if i remember it right, under 2.3hr!!! that's close to 2:15min!!!! at close to 180MHz FSB i think!! but he hasn't send me the result tho. therefore, hipro is our current KING of SETI!!
LandShark
09-16-02, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by hipro5
Noone can beat Overclockers.com :D :beer:
YUP!!! ;) ;) :burn: :burn:
btw, i'm having him to do the mod. for me on a P4T533 too.
For the speed this SETI bench runs I think that I'll do about 2.15 now....We'll see..... :D
LandShark
09-16-02, 09:15 PM
i think i'd better update my loads of previous received result asap or i'll got flooded w/ you guys' result!! :D :D
alright then, i'll "try" to do it tonight!!! or well..........2morrow.......:p
Well......UPDATED resaults of SETI bench at 3420MHz......
I think it's quit good for the time been.....don't you???
Overclockers.com POWER.......
http://www.hipro5.com/public/Benchies/Pentium4_2,66GHz/SETI_bench_3420_png.png
You got me drool'in !!! I work there and I only have a 2.4 unlocked. I get 1 chip per year and I just got the 2.4. Your "friend must be Craig B!! :p
Edit: I noticed it being unlocked right away
Yeap....It's unlocked already.....Can't your 2,4GHz go higher than that?....What's the problem?(as I noticed at your sign)...
That's an excellent o\c...congrats for your new monster hipro5.
Thanks TASOS.....and Thank you for the Prometeia as well..... :D :beer:
Now I have to moddify the Mobo once again cause the VCore regulators are not "stabilizing the VCore well....I have a 0.1Volt less at full load... :( ....Well.....I'll manage it.... ;)
jdmcnudgent
09-17-02, 03:18 AM
get it under control bud.:D
Originally posted by hipro5
Now realy tell me.....Do I need RDRAM...????.....
Yeah why not? You could get an extra boost provided you could get the ram to run at high speed too. I have seen RDRAM Sandra benches well over 4K...
It's kind of a non-issue to me anyway. Single channel DDR will always limit the P4- even when it looks good at high frequencies you gotta remember that the CPU is running on a faster bus too, and thus could use even MORE bandwidth. The ideal would be 166-200Mhz RDRAM to go with the extra fsb, and while that is not easily feasible I'd estimate 133Mhz RDRAM to be able to reach 166 without much event, especially while production yields are still improving.
//edit:// forgot to say: congrats on the great oc! =D
Thanks man....:) but if I had RDRAM could I go that high with this fsb???....
Originally posted by hipro5
Thanks man....:) but if I had RDRAM could I go that high with this fsb???....
Well 178 is rather high and it may be more of a problem for RDRAM than it is for DDR, but I guess it's up to you to try it out! =D
markodude
09-17-02, 08:33 AM
Hey guys, u all seem to know a bit about ES chips etc, are there any ES chips that are multiplier locked? I cant get the multi to adjust on my 1.8A ES chip......is there any way to tell from the serials on the chips whether or not the chip would be multi unlocked?
http://www.opti-networks.com/images/p4oc.jp
Still waiting on my "friend" here in the UK to get me a multi unlocked C1 as well, but we are having probs finding C1 chips in the UK at all, never mind ES ones..:-)
LandShark
09-17-02, 09:13 AM
well, if you back down theRDRAM to x3, 178 is possible depending on the cpu! i know a guy who mod'ed the P4T533, JC. look at his time and speed. http://hortenseti.skonux.net/benchmarkeng.php?type=ocsetiteam they use our benchmark wu so time is comparable.
btw, i WILL update the benchie today!! was updating last night, got everyone but 2 more result need to enter, then i don't know what the hell i'm think, i suddenly hit "X" to close the window, and when dreamweaver asked me if i wanna save the new one, i said "NO"! then everything is................GONE!!! :mad: :mad: i was really mad of my stupidity 'cos that 1 1/2hr work that i've just throw into a trash can!!! :(
JCviggen
09-17-02, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by LandShark
the P4T533 actually is a killer board.......................IF it runs!! i know a guy who did the fastest (our) seti benchie wu is actually using the P4T533 but he had to heavily mod. it to get it stable (mainly board circuit 'cos heard it doesn't provide enough voltage etc.)
his time? if i remember it right, under 2.3hr!!! that's close to 2:15min!!!! at close to 180MHz FSB i think!! but he hasn't send me the result tho. therefore, hipro is our current KING of SETI!!
yeah it can be a nice board ... :D
BTW, this is what i'm running stable these days. Temperature is while running folding
http://users.pandora.be/JCviggen/3420temp.JPG
Oh, and the 2.80 will be coming in tomorrow ... sorry Hipro... already made a 2hr 11 min run with a 2.53 ;)
Very nice chip you got there man....very nice chip indeed....!!! :D
Updated Info for the time been.....
WCPUID 3571MHz
http://www.hipro5.com/public/Benchies/Pentium4_2,66GHz/WCPUID_3571_png.png
JCviggen
09-17-02, 10:31 AM
Its a costa rica ... but I wanted a malay :(
First one I got was from phillipines and sucked major, major ass...
I also tested a 2.66 and it would boot at 3600, but I couldnt even get through 3Dmark at 3400 ... see, i'm very good at getting crap chips as well lol
BTW, how do you like this memory bandwidth on the ASUS :D
http://users.pandora.be/JCviggen/sandra175x4.JPG
or 200x3
http://users.pandora.be/JCviggen/sandra200.JPG
New very high S-Sandra Arithmetic score...
http://www.hipro5.com/public/Benchies/Pentium4_2,66GHz/Arithmetic3571_png.png
Thats AWESOME Memory Bandwidth man....AWESOME......That's ASUS Mobo....ONLY ASUS CAN DO THAT.....
Have you tryied Super Pi at 1M to see what you get with that bandwidth???
S-Sandra Multimedia bench....As USUAL GOT "CRAZY"..... :D
http://www.hipro5.com/public/Benchies/Pentium4_2,66GHz/Multimedia3571_png.png
And one quit good S-Sandra Chache bench....
http://www.hipro5.com/public/Benchies/Pentium4_2,66GHz/Cache3571_png.png
JCviggen
09-17-02, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by hipro5
Thats AWESOME Memory Bandwidth man....AWESOME......That's ASUS Mobo....ONLY ASUS CAN DO THAT.....
Have you tryied Super Pi at 1M to see what you get with that bandwidth???
with the 2.53 GHz i'm down to 51 seconds in Super Pi. Cant compare it to yours, since the C1 stepping is a lot faster. With the 2.66 GHz @ 3.4 GHz I got something like 46 seconds. But it was only 170x3 bus ... I imagine your DDR and free multiplier can do just as well or better in that test. i'll get back to ya when I get my CPU tomorrow :)
And a Super Pi at 1M with memory at 249MHz(498MHz DDR).... :D
http://www.hipro5.com/public/Benchies/Pentium4_2,66GHz/Super%20Pi_3366_png.png
Very fast CPU's at Super Pi are the AMD ones....they "rock" on Super Pi.....
JCviggen
09-17-02, 10:49 AM
A friend of mine with a prometeia and 2.80 is down to 41 seconds I think ... but I need a good CPU :(
I also ordered a 2.50/400. That will be crap in memory bandwidth, but if I put some LN2 on it, it might do a nice 160x4 on the memory or so ;)
JCviggen
09-17-02, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by hipro5
Very fast CPU's at Super Pi are the AMD ones....they "rock" on Super Pi.....
yeah I had an Athlon 2000+ at 10.5x200 FSB (2104 MHz) once and it did super pi in 51 seconds ... now thats what my P4 does at 3450 ;)
It has to be said, super pi is not a good incicator of performance between different systems
Originally posted by JCviggen
yeah I had an Athlon 2000+ at 10.5x200 FSB (2104 MHz) once and it did super pi in 51 seconds ... now thats what my P4 does at 3450 ;)
It has to be said, super pi is not a good incicator of performance between different systems
I will agree with you and as a friend of mine had told : Super Pi is for AMD's and Sysmark is for Pentium's...:D
I see the new monster is growing bigger by the hours....well done hipro !!!
I am shocked with the results.
**By the way JCviggen (greetings) the other Prometeia user is doing quite well himself too.
Originally posted by markodude
Hey guys, u all seem to know a bit about ES chips etc, are there any ES chips that are multiplier locked? I cant get the multi to adjust on my 1.8A ES chip......is there any way to tell from the serials on the chips whether or not the chip would be multi unlocked?
http://www.opti-networks.com/images/p4oc.jp
Still waiting on my "friend" here in the UK to get me a multi unlocked C1 as well, but we are having probs finding C1 chips in the UK at all, never mind ES ones..:-)
I can't make out the codes on your pic. post the #'s as they appear on the chip and I'll try and find out the story on it.
Hawk
FAB 20 :);)
Originally posted by markodude
Hey guys, u all seem to know a bit about ES chips etc, are there any ES chips that are multiplier locked? I cant get the multi to adjust on my 1.8A ES chip......is there any way to tell from the serials on the chips whether or not the chip would be multi unlocked?
http://www.opti-networks.com/images/p4oc.jp
Still waiting on my "friend" here in the UK to get me a multi unlocked C1 as well, but we are having probs finding C1 chips in the UK at all, never mind ES ones..:-)
Hey man....I haven't seen yet a "locked" ES chip till now....Did you try to ubdate the bios of your Mobo????...This chip you got there when you put it onto your Mobo the multi is "locked"???:rolleyes:
JCviggen
09-17-02, 02:32 PM
I got a 2.4 ES intel confidential once, was 100% locked as well. Not all are unlocked, sadly
A brand new UPDATED SETI Bench.....
And as I told before....I've got more....MUCH MORE....I ALWAYS GOT MORE...
http://www.hipro5.com/public/Benchies/Pentium4_2,66GHz/SETI_bench_3571_png.png
ok, your CPU and memory scores on PCmark2002 are both about 30% higher than mine, but how come your hard disk score is "N/A"?
see, if you can beat my hard disk score :D
http://service.madonion.com/compare?pcm=619619
http://service.madonion.com/compare?pcm=448473
(NOTE: Jealous...jealous of your cpu and ram scores, jealous your processors, jealous of you have that friend:D)
Is there any way for me also to make friend with him? :)
LandShark
09-18-02, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by hipro5
Now realy tell me.....Do I need RDRAM...????.....
LOL, the guy i was talking 'bout IS JCViggen (Jan). his RDRAM score really SHAKE the floor (the fastest i've ever seen)!!! guess you'll need to re-think your statement now George!! :D
markodude
09-18-02, 03:04 AM
Hello hipro and hawk! My ES chip codes are as follows:
QIF1ES MALAY
L1414819-0417
80532FC033512
Hoepfully got a C1 stepping ES coming early next week....please be unlocked!
After reading the THG stuff on 3.3g P4 (the update bit at the end) I have now realised that the OEM ES chips will only allow the multi to go downwards, and I cant remember if I tried to go down b4....now I have went into my P4T-533 BIOS and the multiplier bit is greyed out for some reason, so i need to flash back to an older bios to get the multi adjustment back but ASUS easyupdate wont let me......arrrghhh
iparout
09-18-02, 07:30 AM
hipro, those scores are magnificent !!! What is more magnificent though is the Prometeia tower you got...
Can you tell me where you got one of those here in Greece ? How much did it cost you ? Last but not least, how much do you earn per year to be able to afford those stuff, bro ? :D lol
BTW, guys, how would you know that a CPU has the C-1 stepping ? I am planning on upgrading and getting the 2.26B or 2.4B but now I also want to make sure that my chip will be C1...
Any help on that ?
Originally posted by LandShark
LOL, the guy i was talking 'bout IS JCViggen (Jan). his RDRAM score really SHAKE the floor (the fastest i've ever seen)!!! guess you'll need to re-think your statement now George!! :D
I think that demonstrates my previous point nicely! =)
markodude
09-18-02, 08:04 AM
Hi there,
in reply to iParout
FYI the C1 steppings are 2.5ghz 400FSB, 2.6ghz 400FSB, 2.66ghz 533FSB and 2.8ghz 533FSB
The lower speed chips will eventually phase to C1 stepping eventually, but I would reckon you wont see these in stores until Dec 02/Jan 03...
use http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/default.asp to check S-codes and steppings, you will see that all processors other than those mentioned above are B0 steppings.....
iparout
09-18-02, 08:18 AM
Thank you for the quick and accurate response, mark.
Originally posted by iparout
BTW, guys, how would you know that a CPU has the C-1 stepping ? I am planning on upgrading and getting the 2.26B or 2.4B but now I also want to make sure that my chip will be C1...
Any help on that ?
Hi iparout & welcome to the forums
Every cpu has an s-spec so that you can identify it easily
Here is a small chart with the upcoming P4 models
P.S.
Next time if you have a question...just post your own thread.
It will be more wise since you can get more help from the other users of this forum
iparout
09-18-02, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by TASOS
Hi iparout & welcome to the forums
Every cpu has an s-spec so that you can identify it easily
Here is a small chart with the upcoming P4 models
P.S.
Next time if you have a question...just post your own thread.
It will be more wise since you can get more help from the other users of this forum
Thanks for the reply and the tip... However, the main purpose of my reply was to find out where hipro5 got his Prometeia case... That's why I posted it here... :)
P.S. : Seems like we are many Greeks in this forum... That's good cause i though that our little country is *WAY* behind others regarding computer issues...
PM me if you want to know details...i also have the Prometeia
I cant believe you got an unlocked p5 2.66 thats just nice......if u come accross n e more drop us a line :-)
JCviggen
09-18-02, 04:58 PM
here's the numbers from the 2.80 I picked up today :D
http://users.pandora.be/JCviggen/3740.JPG
http://users.pandora.be/JCviggen/CPU3717.JPG
http://users.pandora.be/JCviggen/MMX3716.JPG
This Super Pi run is at a rather low clock speed, but it enabled me to max out my RDRAM at 4x, actually as well as max speed and 3x memory. My VRIMM mod came off a few days ago and i need to re-do it ... until I throw more voltage at the memory, the max is 166x4
http://users.pandora.be/JCviggen/superpi43slow.JPG
That's a pretty nice chip you got there man....!!!....pretty nice...!!! ;)
Originally posted by iparout
Thanks for the reply and the tip... However, the main purpose of my reply was to find out where hipro5 got his Prometeia case... That's why I posted it here... :)
P.S. : Seems like we are many Greeks in this forum... That's good cause i though that our little country is *WAY* behind others regarding computer issues...
You can find Prometeia at HAC Shop (http://www.hacshop.gr) here in Greece....just give them a call.....:D
what kind of PSU do u have for that p4b533-E mobo?
jdmcnudgent
09-18-02, 08:14 PM
JCviggen is the overclocking man.:D well, you WERE the big dogg on the forum.:(
Originally posted by hc1001
what kind of PSU do u have for that p4b533-E mobo?
It's a Super Flower 420Watts...Modded...:D
I can do Super Pi with my PURE DDR memory at 249MHz(498MHz DDR) , 44 seconds....My goal is to make my DDR run at 255MHz(510MHz DDR)....So far I managed to make it work at 253MHz(506MHz DDR).....and I continue to "burn-in" it....So here's Super Pi....
http://www.hipro5.com/public/Benchies/Pentium4_2,66GHz/Super%20Pi_3366_249_2,5_2_3_7_png.png
And here is my memory 512Mb Corsair XMS3200 C2 , running at 250MHz(500MHz DDR) at Cas 2-2-3-7 T2 http://www.hipro5.com/public/Benchies/Pentium4_2,66GHz/mem250_2-2-3-7_png.png
Now here is an UNBUFFERED bench with Corsair at 250MHz(500MHz DDR) with Cas 2-2-3-7 T2......
http://www.hipro5.com/public/Benchies/Pentium4_2,66GHz/mem250_unbuf_2_2_3_7_png.png
And finally here is my 512Mb Corsair XMS3200 C2 at 253MHz(506MHz DDR) with Cas 2,5-2-3-7 T2.....
http://www.hipro5.com/public/Benchies/Pentium4_2,66GHz/mem253_2,5-2-3-7_png.png
Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
JCviggen is the overclocking man.:D well, you WERE the big dogg on the forum.:(
Hey jd.....Maybe you missed something man....I just don't care who's the big dogg on the forum man....I don't give a shi(f)t about that....All I care of , is that I've made a hell of a rig for my shelf and I'm satisfied about this..... :D
I'd find all these results more interesting if I saw only truly stable speeds reported, with settings listed.
Judging from the benches, only a couple can pass at the highest reported speed, most others have to run on significantly lower clocked speeds... and this is just benchmarks, not a torture test. From the looks of that, I wouldn't be surprised to see a full 500Mhz off the top speeds or more for truly stable speed.
Originally posted by FIZZ3
I'd find all these results more interesting if I saw only truly stable speeds reported, with settings listed.
Judging from the benches, only a couple can pass at the highest reported speed, most others have to run on significantly lower clocked speeds... and this is just benchmarks, not a torture test. From the looks of that, I wouldn't be surprised to see a full 500Mhz off the top speeds or more for truly stable speed.
I assure you that if you run SETI bench for 2 hours and so,you'll see if your rig is capable for stability....If someone could run PCMark2002 CPU and Memory bench , then he would be OK.....As a matter of fact....can you JCviggen post us a PCMark2002 at your "working" speed???...;)
JCviggen
09-19-02, 07:51 AM
why dont you check the ORB for my PCmark score ? :) Its up there... as you know, PCmark shows the CPU speed as being quite a lot less than it really was. i think I ran it at 3.65 or so.
This morning, I've been doing some 3Dmark at 169x4 RDRAM (the max I can get from the memory for 3D :() and so far with a stock cooled Radeon at only 370/340 i'm already at 18.345 marks
BTW, hows this for default voltage
http://users.pandora.be/JCviggen/3550default.JPG
That's pretty impressive for default VCore......;) Awesome chip you got there...!!!
LandShark
09-19-02, 08:38 AM
ahhh...........both of you are making me soooooooooooooo jealous now!!!!!!! :p
JCviggen
09-19-02, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by hipro5
That's pretty impressive for default VCore......;) Awesome chip you got there...!!!
yeah but its very near the maximum... for 3Dmark, I can only get 100 MHz extra out of it by raising the Vcore .. :(
Also, by increasing the vcore the temperatures go up, which doesnt really help.
Still, i'm not done yet ;)
jdmcnudgent
09-19-02, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by hipro5
Hey jd.....Maybe you missed something man....I just don't care who's the big dogg on the forum man....I don't give a shi(f)t about that....All I care of , is that I've made a hell of a rig for my shelf and I'm satisfied about this..... :D here here, nice rig.:p
Originally posted by JCviggen
yeah but its very near the maximum... for 3Dmark, I can only get 100 MHz extra out of it by raising the Vcore .. :(
Also, by increasing the vcore the temperatures go up, which doesnt really help.
Still, i'm not done yet ;)
Most of the newer chips are like this....A friend of mine bought two Celerons(III - new ones)...The first one needed about 1,8VCore to do 1500MHz and the second one did 1500MHz but with the default VCore....When he pushed the VCore to max he just couldn't do better than 1500MHz no matter what.....:eek: :(
Originally posted by hipro5
I assure you that if you run SETI bench for 2 hours and so,you'll see if your rig is capable for stability....If someone could run PCMark2002 CPU and Memory bench , then he would be OK.....As a matter of fact....can you JCviggen post us a PCMark2002 at your "working" speed???...;)
I am not familiar with the pros and cons of SETI as a stability test, but I do know that for a program like Prime95, 2 hours is not sufficient. I have ran tests at 2hr length only to encounter errors in other programs or later in the run. 24h is the recommended loop time, and though it is tedious it does provide the very best stability test. But maybe that is asking a lot.
Well....try to run the Super Pi at 32M and see if your CPU can hundle that load....It's a good "streching" prog that loads the CPU and the Memory as well.... ;)
Yeap...running Super-pi at 32M is the fastest way to check your system stability.
i would disagree.....i can run that 32mb super pi with my p4 @ 2700 at vcore set to 1.650 but if i run prime at that voltage i get a error in about 2 hours and 40 mins....i need 1.675 to be prime stable at 2700......
Originally posted by hc1001
i would disagree.....i can run that 32mb super pi with my p4 @ 2700 at vcore set to 1.650 but if i run prime at that voltage i get a error in about 2 hours and 40 mins....i need 1.675 to be prime stable at 2700......
Super Pi stretches the memory a lot and Prime 95 sretches the CPU mutch more that Super Pi......
Originally posted by hc1001
i would disagree.....i can run that 32mb super pi with my p4 @ 2700 at vcore set to 1.650 but if i run prime at that voltage i get a error in about 2 hours and 40 mins....i need 1.675 to be prime stable at 2700......
We agree....Prime95 is a "heavier" application...you just missed the word faster.
Spec_Ops2087
09-21-02, 07:47 AM
Hey hipro5....GREAT JOB...
by any chance can we see some 3dmark scores?
Spec
Originally posted by Spec_Ops2087
Hey hipro5....GREAT JOB...
by any chance can we see some 3dmark scores?
Spec
I've done today a bench of 3DMark2001 with my memory 512Mb Corsair XMS3200 C2 at Cas 2,5 - 2 - 3 - 7 T2 and 250MHz(500MHz DDR)(couldn't do it at Cas 2-2-3-7).....with my poor GeForce4 440MX(not interested for something better than that cause I just don't play games)....at 188 MHz fsb and at 3571MHz
You can go HERE (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4540677) to check it out if you wish....Also now I'am at the TOP of 3DMark's score with the GeForce4 440MX in it's Data base....You can go at Project Search and Compare (http://service.madonion.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectsearch) and you'll just see it(Select the GeForce4 440MX one).....The third score is also mine but with memory at about 241MHz(482MHz DDR) with Cas 2 - 2 - 3 - 7 T2......not much of a difference...
Now.....a friend of mine,Vaios, brought me a few days ago an ATI Radeon 9700 he just bought to test it.....but he took it back....He'll bring it to me next week(I hope) and WE'LL SEE what this VGA can do....
JCviggen
09-21-02, 06:56 PM
I'm at 19.400 marks since today :)
T-bred owns you
09-22-02, 11:18 AM
Landshark can you describe the mod involved? I'm thinking about buying a p4t533 and a 2x256mb sticks of Samsung rimm4200(pull one out for benching.) I really like the bandwidth scores I keep seeing with successful users of this board, but I hear the Euro and Asia boards are alot better than the US counterparts. PM me or reply if you can give me more information, thanks in advance. BTW this is my first post hehehe. 1.6A@2.66(16x166)1.575Vcore (or 1.550, I can run prime95 forever and ever at 1.550 but mafia keeps crashing back to windows for some reason, could be my buyaib.com fake sammy dying.) P4s533, leadtek ti4600, 2x60gb maxtor 7200rpm ata133 on a promise TX2 controller since my secondary onboard IDE is dead.
Manual Shutdown
09-22-02, 11:56 AM
Please excuse my ignorance but what is all this about C1 stepping?
LandShark
09-22-02, 12:24 PM
i think you'd better ask JCviggen for the info of th mod. 'cos he's the one who adventure all these. he used to had a post in here and hardforum.com 'bout how-to. try to do a search....
Originally posted by Manual Shutdown
Please excuse my ignorance but what is all this about C1 stepping?
It's the new(design in simple words) stepping of Pentium4 CPU's.....
oRIDDLERo
09-23-02, 01:49 AM
hipro5... Please read my post: http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1056688#post1056688
oRIDDLERo
09-23-02, 04:31 AM
Originally posted by hipro5
I assure you that if you run SETI bench for 2 hours and so,you'll see if your rig is capable for stability....If someone could run PCMark2002 CPU and Memory bench , then he would be OK.....As a matter of fact....can you JCviggen post us a PCMark2002 at your "working" speed???...;)
Yes let me see you complete 3dmark run with you mem volt so high! i have a 2.66 with corsair 3200c2 @202mhz the mem can hit 225mhz with 2.7v but any time i up the volts by even .1v games begin to show artifacts, and 3dmard gets corrupted texture files! I can run seti all day though and any other benching app at 225, but no games!~
Originally posted by gofastman
Yes let me see you complete 3dmark run with you mem volt so high! i have a 2.66 with corsair 3200c2 @202mhz the mem can hit 225mhz with 2.7v but any time i up the volts by even .1v games begin to show artifacts, and 3dmard gets corrupted texture files! I can run seti all day though and any other benching app at 225, but no games!~
You HAVE to "burn-in" the memory so it can handle higher fsb and higher VMem as well...!!!! ;)
oRIDDLERo
09-23-02, 06:07 AM
Originally posted by hipro5
You HAVE to "burn-in" the memory so it can handle higher fsb and higher VMem as well...!!!! ;)
may I ask what is your app of choice for memory burn-in oh stable DDR250 god?
Originally posted by gofastman
may I ask what is your app of choice for memory burn-in oh stable DDR250 god?
HERE (http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89551&perpage=15&pagenumber=2) 's a link on Australia Overclockers about "burn-in"...(simplefide)....but I think that you have to register first to see it....
And HERE (http://www.pctech.gr/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=685)'s my review on how to "burn-in" a memory module...It's in Greek language and you have to translate it somehow..... :D :beer:
jdmcnudgent
09-23-02, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by hipro5
HERE (http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89551&perpage=15&pagenumber=2) 's a link on Australia Overclockers about "burn-in"...(simplefide)....but I think that you have to register first to see it....
And HERE (http://www.pctech.gr/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=685)'s my review on how to "burn-in" a memory module...It's in Greek language and you have to translate it somehow..... :D :beer: how safe is it to put as3 on the mem???
Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
how safe is it to put as3 on the mem???
jd , it's as safe as you can jump from a 120 floors building...... :D
T-bred owns you
09-23-02, 09:37 PM
Anyone "fixed" their p4t533? I need to know how to do this when I get my board. PM me if you have details on this, thanks in advance.
bloodshot
09-23-02, 10:49 PM
System info:
Gigabyte 8IXHP(F6 Bios)
512 Kingston RDRAM @1066mhz
Visiontek TI4400
Audigy Gamer Sound Card
Windows XP Pro
I have been trying to get my 2.26b processor to go past 2.46ghz but for some reason when i go past 145fsb to 148fsb or higher windows XP keeps loading and loading and never stops. I got my 2.26b running perfectly fine at 2.46ghz with 145fsb at everything default. Anyone have any suggestions? i have already put my rimms in slots 1 and 2 and crimms in 3 & 4. Please help, thanks.
Originally posted by T-bred owns you
Anyone "fixed" their p4t533? I need to know how to do this when I get my board. PM me if you have details on this, thanks in advance.
Fix what? It's been working fine for me since day 1. Don't believe all the hype about it being unstable and faulty and whatnot. The technical term for that is: user error. =]
T-bred owns you
09-24-02, 03:10 PM
From what I hear more than half of the US boards are bugged and there is a lesser chance of receiving a piece of **** sample in Europe. I want to make sure I get a revision 1.03 just to be somewhat safer than the first version.
JCviggen
09-24-02, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by FIZZ3
Fix what? It's been working fine for me since day 1. Don't believe all the hype about it being unstable and faulty and whatnot. The technical term for that is: user error. =]
you should read the thread at [H]
some peeps there really know there stuff and went to the P4T533 with expensive lab equipment measuring frequencies, noise, etc and the board really sucks. Just a few seem to have better caps than others. I never had one unstable @ 133 FSB, but I know many ppl did.
T-bred owns you
09-24-02, 03:45 PM
Can you post a link? I can't seem to find the thread....
JCviggen
09-24-02, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by T-bred owns you
Can you post a link? I can't seem to find the thread....
http://www.hardforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=454638
enjoy ... its 95 pages , 1800+ replies and 86.000 views... going to take you a while to dig up the interesting stuff i'm afraid tho
T-bred owns you
09-24-02, 03:56 PM
thanks for the link....
Originally posted by JCviggen
you should read the thread at [H]
some peeps there really know there stuff and went to the P4T533 with expensive lab equipment measuring frequencies, noise, etc and the board really sucks. Just a few seem to have better caps than others. I never had one unstable @ 133 FSB, but I know many ppl did.
I read the thread for quite a while. Not much "knowledgeable" people for *quite* some pages... a lot of yelling and such, yes. Didn't get to the point where people took expensive lab equipment to the testbench though. Was there any valid comparison material? I find it hard to believe something along that line could be proven thusly. If it's a matter of caps... why not name the good ones or consider replacing the bad ones? Or better yet, let Asus handle that in the face of the proven 'suckiness'...
Interesting to see your board(s) was/were stable too by the way.
JCviggen
09-24-02, 04:01 PM
you should check out posts by BaWoofers, he did most of the research on the caps, and figured out where to solder them to get better results. Before the cap mod, he got thousands of memtest errors, after the caps it went to 0 @ the same setting. The board is ill designed but most of all ill built.... but some boards are really good. Also, if you can do 133x4 stable, thats nice. But most ppl want more than that, and expect it too when ASUS brags with 200 FSB in 2 MHz increments, etcetera...
JCviggen
09-24-02, 08:16 PM
BTW, hows this :)
http://users.pandora.be/JCviggen/3.8.JPG
jdmcnudgent
09-24-02, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by JCviggen
BTW, hows this :)
http://users.pandora.be/JCviggen/3.8.JPG is that stable and what mobo???:p
T-bred owns you
09-24-02, 09:56 PM
What is the exact page on where it describes the modding needed? I haven't found it and read through many of the pages.
LandShark
09-25-02, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by JCviggen
BTW, hows this
http://users.pandora.be/JCviggen/3.8.JPG
WOW!!! :eek: :eek: there you go buddy!!! :clap: :clap: make sure you do a benchie for me tho!! ;)
jd, he's using what you (and soon will be I) using, P4T533!! as i said, when it RUNS, it ROCKS!! :burn:
jdmcnudgent
09-25-02, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by LandShark
WOW!!! :eek: :eek: there you go buddy!!! :clap: :clap: make sure you do a benchie for me tho!! ;)
jd, he's using what you (and soon will be I) using, P4T533!! as i said, when it RUNS, it ROCKS!! :burn: dunno, did you see the speed the mem was running at??? looked like ddr.
LandShark
09-25-02, 12:43 AM
his P4T533 could run anything x3, up to 200FSBx3!! amazing, especially on a RDRAM board!! :eek:
Originally posted by JCviggen
you should check out posts by BaWoofers, he did most of the research on the caps, and figured out where to solder them to get better results. Before the cap mod, he got thousands of memtest errors, after the caps it went to 0 @ the same setting. The board is ill designed but most of all ill built.... but some boards are really good. Also, if you can do 133x4 stable, thats nice. But most ppl want more than that, and expect it too when ASUS brags with 200 FSB in 2 MHz increments, etcetera...
Yes people want more, and people will not reach 200Mhz FSB en masse, just as they never have in the past. Only now the Whiney Thread comes by, blaming it all on the board, and suddenly they realize that it wasn't their crappy ram, nor their half-cheap PS or their dud cpu and certainly not their NIC... it was all to blame on the board alone!
By the way, heavy mods to reach over 133, the board's specced speed isn't something that has never been done before, nor something that proves the board is poor. Such mods have been done on numerous boards to increase stability at extreme speeds.
Also, bragging about 200Mhz in 1 Mhz increments in the light of never actually getting there has been commonplace since the day speed dials on 120Km/h cars can show up to 220. No claims of 200Mhz operation are made... but the gas pedal is always there to try.
Finally, I'm not saying the board is flawless in all cases. I'm sure there will be some that have real problems... as with all mass-produced goods. Who knows in this case of relatively new first-made tech there are slightly more problems. But I have a hard time believing that the board is unstable at stock speeds by its own fault, and I even think it clocks better than a P4T533-C, which goes up to 156Mhz fsb only.
Originally posted by JCviggen
BTW, hows this :)
http://users.pandora.be/JCviggen/3.8.JPG
Only 3.8Ghz?
Hahahah very nice man! =)
jdmcnudgent
09-27-02, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by FIZZ3
Only 3.8Ghz?
Hahahah very nice man! =) he always does come and spoil things, doesnt he.:o
Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
he always does come and spoil things, doesnt he.:o
Hehe. Oh it's fun to see. I focus on more useable 100% stable overclocks myself. Of course, I also haven't invested in expensive active cooling solutions, which limits me to what is possible with watercooling alone.
I think I will try a 2.5 C1 next... 3.33Ghz seems to be a sweet speed to me. =D
How is your OC going?
Originally posted by FIZZ3
Also, bragging about 200Mhz in 1 Mhz increments in the light of never actually getting there has been commonplace since the day speed dials on 120Km/h cars can show up to 220. No claims of 200Mhz operation are made... but the gas pedal is always there to try.
The boards witch can do over 200MHz fsb are the DDR boards accualy and they just do.....
Take a look at the Mobo's fsb.....
http://www.hipro5.com/public/Benchies/Pentium4_2,66GHz/mem227_c2_2_2_7_jpg.jpg
markodude
09-27-02, 06:16 AM
Seems that every P4T-533 is different - mines vcore is all over the place and I cant even run my 2.50 C1 at stock, yet lots of people are running high speeds/fsbs. My 1.8A runs up to 130FSB stable but no more - I cannot even run a 100FSB with the C1 - hence why its in my BG7. Im gonna have a look at that thread above now...
Originally posted by hipro5
[B]The boards witch can do over 200MHz fsb are the DDR boards accualy and they just do.....
Take a look at the Mobo's fsb.....
You misinterpret my statement. I did not say the boards cannot do 200Mhz fsb at all. I said that few do, and that there are a lot of other factors clouding the issues at those speeds.
Originally posted by FIZZ3
You misinterpret my statement. I did not say the boards cannot do 200Mhz fsb at all. I said that few do, and that there are a lot of other factors clouding the issues at those speeds.
Ahhh.....OK then..... ;)
And heres me that ran my 1.6 willy at 1.92 for 6 hrs on clocked down ddr mem...damn ppl gettin 3+ ghz (goes off and cry's) well done u nutters :-P
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