View Full Version : 52x CDR-W's To possibly hit Stores soon?
Dissolved
09-26-02, 03:11 PM
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.asp?RelatedID=2795
Well looks like they have reached the limit. IT cdrom drives anything faster then 52x, and the cd's are known to melt crack and sometimes explode!, So this is very interesting if they can make a 52x cdr-w. if anything that will give them a better idea on how to speed up cdr-w writing. heh a 52x52x52 drive would be nice :)
Johnny Knoxville
09-26-02, 03:24 PM
Lite-on is already working on another 48x with 24x re-writing. I think 52x cd-writers will be coming out within a couple of months.
krott5333
09-26-02, 03:36 PM
i just built a pc for my g/f, and it has a 56x cdrom.. no problems with explosions yet.
Dissolved
09-26-02, 03:36 PM
Well Sep was suppose to have have 52x cdrw's so possibly next month. but if liteon comes out with a 48x24x52 then i think it'll be time for me to upgrade :)
Ya'll got some pretty big expectations for a device on a 32x system bus.
How pray-tell are they actually gonna get more data throughput to the burner on a bus that's only runs the same as a 32x cd? They finally move to ATA133 for cd's?
Smoke, Mirrors, and Marketing. It's been parting people from their money for years.
Dissolved
09-26-02, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by Diggrr
Ya'll got some pretty big expectations for a device on a 32x system bus.
How pray-tell are they actually gonna get more data throughput to the burner on a bus that's only runs the same as a 32x cd? They finally move to ATA133 for cd's?
Smoke, Mirrors, and Marketing. It's been parting people from their money for years.
The drives dont actually hit 52X till the end of the disc. So its usualy 32X middle(start) and end at 52x. So its never fully 52x. And there ata100. so the ide is capable up to 100mbps(if im not mistaken) and 32x isnt close to 100mbps. So in IMO i think 52x is very close to happening. they just need to improve the laser.
Not all 52x cdroms explode. ive seen like 6-10at most only reported online. But if you a crappy cd and it gets hot thats possible.
Older cd's arent as well made as the new ones. If you ever tryed bending a new cd-r compaired to a 4.0 AOL cd, the AOL cd will shatter, and the newer cd-r will felx alot be4 it cracks.
Who needs to burn CDs that fast? :eh?:
Johnny Knoxville
09-27-02, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by Oni
Who needs to burn CDs that fast? :eh?:
I'm going to replace my Lite-on 48x, it's gonna be too slow soon :D
Emericana
09-27-02, 09:43 PM
i only buy plextors and i play on keeping my plextor 24x, which is PLENTY fast for me, forever. the plextor 24x with firmware 1.03 (which i have) is the ONLY fast cd burner out (the slower plextors less than 24x have this capability also) there that can make 100% duplicates of every single cdrom regardless of copywright protection so that is a big plus also. this is of course for backups tho.
Dissolved
09-27-02, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by Emericana
i only buy plextors and i play on keeping my plextor 24x, which is PLENTY fast for me, forever. the plextor 24x with firmware 1.03 (which i have) is the ONLY fast cd burner out (the slower plextors less than 24x have this capability also) there that can make 100% duplicates of every single cdrom regardless of copywright protection so that is a big plus also. this is of course for backups tho.
Well i have a plextor, and its great but my next drive will be a liteon. im not gonna pay a 100 more just for a brand name. plus the liteons are faster :)
Well, I read the article, and it's not even about cdrw's persay, but a laser assembly they intend to manufacture that is a drop in replacement for the current standard one.
It goes on to say it's capable of 52x writing, but the current cdrw's that this can drop into are still not ATA's.
It would still be up to the manufacturer of the drive to make it an ATAanything, instead of just IDE, and I've heard of none planning to do so (at least in my small world). I would think that an ATAxxx cdrw would be the biggest news to hit CD writing.
So, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to stick with what I said.
ATA100 would be nice place to start (HINT HINT PLEXTOR!), but just cause they can plug in and run does not mean that the motherboard is giving that cdrw ATA100 speeds. The ports on your mobo are backwards compatible to run the old standards and the new depending on the device.
I also noticed that Plextor doesn't have their sustained write speed listed anymore...that's the number I'm refering to, and it doesn't change with increasing X's either, because it's fed by the outdated bus.
Johnny Knoxville
09-28-02, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Emericana
the plextor 24x with firmware 1.03 (which i have) is the ONLY fast cd burner out (the slower plextors less than 24x have this capability also) there that can make 100% duplicates of every single cdrom regardless of copywright protection so that is a big plus also. this is of course for backups tho.
the plextor 24x is the only fast burner out that can make 100% duplicates of every single cdrom regardless of copywright protection?????
that's absolute crap, try making a back-up copy of a game like Warcraft3 (which has Securom protection) with your plextor, you won't be able to do it. Even games with the latest safedisk protection are headaches to backup with a plextor. The Asus and Lite-on 32X (and over) can make perfect copies of games for backup, but cannot make copies of audio cd's with cactus protection while the plextor can.
There is no cd-writer that can copy every protection, Lite-on and Asus are far better for making game backups, the Plextor is better for making audio cd backups.
FunkDaMonkMan
09-28-02, 03:07 PM
i've got a 10x right now... and I'll probably wait untill I can get a 52x burner for under $100 before i upgrade.
-=HN=- Wild9
09-29-02, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by Oni
Who needs to burn CDs that fast? :eh?:
have you ever seen Enemy of the State???
the guy who had the video of the senator being assasinated could have used one and maybe he would not have been flattened by a fire truck.
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