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Anyone have any experience with these? I've been making VCD's and whatnot and having a nice long CD-R would really make life easier (no more disk swapping). Not only that, they're 800 and 870 megs respectively! That's economical!
If you know what's up what are some good brands, and good places to get them? Thanks!
--Illah
I've some 800MB(90min) Platinum CD-R's.
I don't recommend buyin 90 or 99 minute CD-R's.
The reason is:
-90 and 99min CD-R's are not in the standard. Coloured Book's if you know what i'm talking about. Red Book for Audio CD's e.g.)
-not every CD-Burner can handle these blank cd's it is even possible to damage your burner if you burner can't handle these cd's
-not all other CD-ROM, DVD-ROM devices can handle these CD's
If you use a 700MB blank cd, you'Ve got about 750MB free space for VCD/SVCD. A 700MB blank disc can hold 700MB of Data. A VCD/SVCD has less error correction and protection than a DATA CD, that's why it can hold more.
A380
A380 is right, there are several factors to use 90 and 99 minutes Cds, I bought 99 minutes CDs, and burned up to 855 mgs to one (didn't try any bigger yet) first you have to check if your burner is compatible (a search on google give me once a list of tested cd-burners, but sorry I don't remember where) besides, you need patience, you must burn at 4X top (better if lower) and using not multisection disk, and in disc at once mode. I dont thinks right now any major companies are making 90/99 minutes cds, the ones I bought were generics. btw I bought them at eee.allmediaoutlet.com , there also good advice on previuos threads, search for cd overburning, and 99 min cds.
Kintaro Oe
@KintaroOe
there are several factors to use 90 and 99 minutes Cds
I'm not your opinion. I said not to use them as of the reasons mentioned above.
A380
Hi,
I agree with A380. Under my point of view, the problem with non-standard media types for storage is not the media itself, but the likelyhood of not finding the appropriate hardware/software combination to read it in some years from now. The only way to fight against this risk is by adhering to standards... and just and plain, 90 or 99 min. CDs are NOT standard.
I have at home a box filled with 5 1/4 diskettes and some optical 128 Mb disks for which I no longer have a reader ... (I know in case of an emergency I could still find someone with hw to read those, but in a couple of years more ???). If you use 90/99 Min CDs it may be very well the case that when in need of those, your 'CD reader' (in case you have one) does not support that overburn 'read' at that time.
Just an opinion
Regards
FTC
Originally posted by A380
@KintaroOe
I'm not your opinion. I said not to use them as of the reasons mentioned above.
A380
Sorry,I didn't express it well, what I meant was there are several factors to think about before useing 90 and 99 min CDs
Sorry,I didn't express it well, what I meant was there are several factors to think about before useing 90 and 99 min CDs
Ah, ok, that makes sense to me ;). Well maybe it's just that i can't get some hidden points of native English speakers.
A380
Originally posted by A380
Ah, ok, that makes sense to me ;). Well maybe it's just that i can't get some hidden points of native English speakers.
A380
Native speaker?? man I speak portuguese, spanish and english (not very well btw) sometimes even I don't understand what I'm saying :D
Native speaker?? man I speak portuguese, spanish and english (not very well btw) sometimes even I don't understand what I'm saying
:D :D
LOL; ROFL.
Ahhh well, i only expect native English speakers here in this forum; always forget the advantages of the WWW :D
But your English can't be that bad, when i think that you are a native speaker :D :D :D
A380
Digital Pimp
10-01-02, 01:39 PM
IIIah, i have used 99min cr-r's they were Melody brand and i burnt pretty close to the end of the cdr think the file was 850-60 and the cd works fine, the cd case had a list of supported brands, mine wasent on there (Lite-on 40x12x48) but i tried anyway... you have to use a newer version of Nero to burn the cd and change the overburning options. and yeah you should burn as slow as possible (4x) as the datastream is packed into such a small space. but i think any "newer" burner would be able to run the cd's fine... maybe buy 1 or 2 to test.
as far as durablilty is concerned. brand name cdr-s (eg MAXELL) have special coatings on the cd to protect them from damage. my cd-r coatings were like earley 650mb cd-r's. nothing special so i'd be carefull on how you handle and store them.
and just for your information... there was talk a long while ago when 700mb cd's came out that there would be 1g cd-r's (i think that's about 120min) but the plans seem to have been shelved... wish they would come out.
Digital
and just for your information... there was talk a long while ago when 700mb cd's came out that there would be 1g cd-r's (i think that's about 120min) but the plans seem to have been shelved... wish they would come out.
Well, why do we got the DVD Burners? And in a year or two we'll get the blue laser disc. We don't need bigger CD Rom's. The CD-Rom is here and the developement is finished. It's time for different, newer media.
A380
Cheesy Peas
10-02-02, 05:17 PM
ive been buyin 80minute'ers and they have 730mb printed on em... yet only hav 703MB free space..
BUY A DVD ROM lol, i want to but cant afford it.
ive been buyin 80minute'ers and they have 730mb printed on em... yet only hav 703MB free space..
80mins that's about 730MB in wav files and 703MB data files or 750MB for SVCD.
A 80min cd can aktually not hold 700MB, i'm not sure how much it's really, but it'S something like 800MB or so. But if you store data on them, you have error recovery/protection and things like that, so you can only store 700MB. A AudioCD has less error recovery, so you can store 730MB as audiocd on them. A SVCD/VCD/CVD has even less so 750MB can be stored.
The 730 are ment for Audiocd, but many people think it's 730mb data and the companies know that.
@Elekt
They are still expensive now. In january 2003 the 3rd generation is to be announced. So the prices of the 2nd generation will drop. We'll see how much. But just don't buy one of the cheap 1st generation, as they don't support RW, only R. So 2nd generation or above is ok.
Until then use your cd's 650MB or 700MB. The 800 or 850 ones are more expensive, only give you a piec of space more, are out off the standard cd.....not worse using them, if you ask me
A380
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