PDA

View Full Version : Eek, made a booboo?


superawol
10-03-02, 02:25 AM
Well..I know I've pushed my video card to the limit a few times. It's a radeon 8500 128mb retail, 275/275. I probably put it up to 315/315, with my crystal orb. No thermal paste :/
Well, im running at normal clock now, since that was pointless, and it seems everything's gone to hell. I also bought a logitech MX300 optical mouse, but I don't think that's the problem.
Anyways, some examples of my stress:
When I now scroll through large webpages it lags.
2nd
Unreal tournament will now only run at non-full screen mode, whatever it's called, and it's running at lowest possible textures. Safe mode does the same thing, but I'm not running safemode

And I also overclocked my cpu past the limit a few times.. to about 147x12 on a 1900

Graphics are just lagging now, I've tried screwing around with my mouse, registry, bios, I don't know what to do. And apparently my ram voltage went above it's limit, when it wasnt supposed to. from 2.85 to 2.87.
It must've been right after that that the problems started happening.

Any help appreciated. :)

h20link
10-03-02, 02:58 AM
hey what part of WA you in?

Maximouse
10-03-02, 03:19 AM
Maybe something has gone corrupt in your OS?

I would reformat and reinstall if I had that prob.

SemiCycle
10-03-02, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by Maximouse
Maybe something has gone corrupt in your OS?

I would reformat and reinstall if I had that prob.

That was my thinking too. If you have another computer, drop your video card in that box and see if you have the same problems. If you don't, reinstalling windows is the perfect way to make sure it is the video card.

Norrko
10-03-02, 07:58 AM
It may lag if the graphic runs asynchrony and you get to high latency on the bus Agp-bus....

/Norrko

illbreakit
10-03-02, 09:38 AM
The scrolling lag makes me think ram. When I put my timings to high my sys lags real bad just scrolling web pages. Maybe when the ram volts went to high it hurt the ram?

james.miller
10-03-02, 09:55 AM
well the defult voltage for ddr is 2.7volts not 2.85. but 2.87 shouldnt make much of a difference anyway, if any

superawol
10-03-02, 12:53 PM
I don't know, I tweaked up a storm in the bios with stuff I wasn't sure what did what.
Could be ram.

Looks like it may be, but it doesn't explain why unreal tournament doesn't run in a full window, and it looks like my monitor screen shrunk too, and it's always like this now.
I did some tests, turns out my ram has slowed down incredibly since last time I checked, I used sisandra, I'm running at the speed of some pc2100.. not even touching the pc2700
something else is wrong
Anyways thanks everyone for the responses. I really need someone to maybe tutor me through this, because I don't know exactly alot about this. I'll reinstall windows though, of course.
alright, thanks again.

Maximouse
10-03-02, 01:19 PM
Then try resetting your bios by shorting the reset pins or removing the battery.

That oughta take care of any unwanted tweaks:)

DaddyB
10-03-02, 01:20 PM
well if you did a bunch of stuff in the BIOS and you arent sure whats causing the problems then Id say go into your BIOS and load the defaults or clear the CMOS.

As for Unreal Tournament when it starts up just hold down ALT and hit enter, that toggles it back and forth between full screen and windowed.

One important question though... did you play with the AGP driving value (may also be called AGP driving strength or something else with "AGP driving _____", depending on your BIOS)?

If you played with that value you may have fried your card. I did that with my old GF2 GTS (changed the value to FF) and it screwed my card up... now it gets less then half the FPS it used to, all 3d games are laggy and scrolling web pages is laggy. If you didnt play with that setting then it must be something else causing the problem and a format/reinstall should help or maybe even reinstalling the newest vid card and chipset drivers.

ChillPhatCat
10-03-02, 01:27 PM
I've had UT do that to me too... it wasn't a hardware problem, I probably reformatted and installed everything to get it to stop. I would expect the ram not to work, or to cause runtime errors if you overstepped the boundary... If things slow down like that it's probably because some software file is FUBAR'd in some way.

One thing you might try is running some prime 95 to check stability... if you pass for a reasonable stretch of time I'd say then your hardware is fine...

And I would also suggest trying to run on BIOS defaults...

superawol
10-03-02, 06:14 PM
2nd radeon i've fried. heh.
let me explain the situation with the driving value that I changed
My Abit kx7 said in the book "The default for the driving value is auto"
It was at manual, and was at DA
So, I changed it to Auto.
Everything's been running stable since then, so it may just be my new mouse, it could've used too much power, I've got alot of stuff plugged in inside.
If you somehow fixed the problem after screwing with the driving value, give me info. I'm thinking about writing abit and asking for the money to repair my radeon, but I don't think they'd do that.
It was their fault though.. :D

DaddyB
10-03-02, 08:38 PM
I believe DA is the default value on most/all motherboards, setting it to auto should have kept it at DA. I set mine to the highest value (FF) and it ruined my card and no I dont believe there is any way to fix it, you might want to set the value back to manual and DA to see if the lag stops though.

It might be a good idea to email Abit about this if you never set the value to anything higher then DA since, as you said, its hardly your fault that you followed the directions in the manual and the AUTO setting should not have damaged the card unless Abit has the auto setting at an incorrect value.

Abit makes Geforce cards so if you insist that it wasnt your fault and that the card has been damaged beyond repair then maybe you can get them to replace it with a GF3 Ti500 or GF4 Ti4200 (I wouldnt settle for less then either of those).

Best of luck

funnyperson1
10-03-02, 09:16 PM
an 8500128 is better than a Ti500 id b**** at them till i got a 4200 :)

superawol
10-04-02, 02:12 AM
Hey, whoever posted earlier about having the same problems with their geforce 2, here's the temporary fix.
Turn off caching/bios shadowing, and underclock your FSB a bit.
See if that helps, it helped me.