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burn'em
07-02-01, 11:07 PM
I have to machine with duel cpu, duel pII 450 & Duel PPro 200.
First is it worthwhile use more than one console.
Second I need a little detailed help in setting it up. I read the instruction on duel cpu's still confused. Do I just install to to separate files. C:Fold@home1, C:Folding@home2 ?
NUTNDUN
07-03-01, 03:17 AM
It is definately worthwhile on a dual cpu machine. As long as you are using an OS that supports SMP and multithreading, ie; Win 2K or Linux. With windows you have to run it with the local switch which I'm not familiar with but I'm sure somebody will point ya in the right direction, and with Linux it will run serperate clients just from the path you type in at the command prompt.
Dual processors is definitely worth doing. I don't know Linux but under win2k just install to 2 separate directories and run each fah.exe with the "-local" switch. I've renamed mine to fah1.exe and fah2.exe just to help me keep them straight. I don't run EM or anything so renaming them isn't an issue.
burn'em
07-03-01, 09:27 AM
Ferris (Jul 03, 2001 08:36 a.m.):
Dual processors is definitely worth doing. I don't know Linux but under win2k just install to 2 separate directories and run each fah.exe with the "-local" switch. I've renamed mine to fah1.exe and fah2.exe just to help me keep them straight. I don't run EM or anything so renaming them isn't an issue.
What do you mean by "local switch"? I'm running Win2k on one & Win2k Advanced Server on the other machine.
Thanks
burn'em
07-03-01, 05:45 PM
Any Help? Please I'm Wasting CPU Cycles!!!!!
Fold on my Brothers
Burn'em please take a peek at our Official team page, the link is in my signature, there in the Tricks or Tips section you will find alot of answers to some of the most commonly asked question's regarding Folding @ Home =)
J - Hope this helps
burn'em (Jul 03, 2001 09:27 a.m.):
Ferris (Jul 03, 2001 08:36 a.m.):
Dual processors is definitely worth doing. I don't know Linux but under win2k just install to 2 separate directories and run each fah.exe with the "-local" switch. I've renamed mine to fah1.exe and fah2.exe just to help me keep them straight. I don't run EM or anything so renaming them isn't an issue.
What do you mean by "local switch"? I'm running Win2k on one & Win2k Advanced Server on the other machine.
Thanks
Oops! Sorry it took so long. The target in your shortcut would look like this:
"D:\Path\fah1.exe -local" (without quotes of course)
That forces F@H to store results in the directory it started in. Keeps things from getting mixed up when running two instances. Hope that helps. Now GO! Stop wasting all those cycles! :) jk
burn'em
07-03-01, 06:34 PM
Alright here is what I have one Consol is:
C:\program files\folding@home\fah.exe
And the second is:
C:\program files\folding2@home-local\fah-local.exe
Will this work?
Thanks.
burn'em (Jul 03, 2001 06:34 p.m.):
Alright here is what I have one Consol is:
C:\program files\folding@home\fah.exe
And the second is:
C:\program files\folding2@home-local\fah-local.exe
Will this work?
Thanks.No unfortunately it will not work what follows is how to do it properly taken from our team pages tricks section.
06:. I have a Dual Processor machine. Am I able to run Multiple instances of F@H?
YES! Absolutely, just run the install program twice and make sure to specify different directories. Now go the Shortcut's for the console and change the target line to read like this.
"C:\Program Files\Folding@Home\fah.exe" -local Click apply and click ok, now start up the Consoles, by specifying local you are telling each folding installation to get it's own unit's to process otherwise they will process just the one. This step is important!
If you already have your Folding@Home client setup once you run the install again to install it into it's own directory and THEN you copy the fahclient, opls.prm and client.cfg files into the new directory you created. And that should be all you have to do to run F@H SMP
You may still run one copy without the -local flag, and it will use the installation directory, but do not run simultaneous copies of Folding@home from of the same directory - they would interfere with each others data and not accomplish very much.
Hope this helps!
J
burn'em
07-03-01, 08:02 PM
SpeeDj (Jul 03, 2001 07:15 p.m.):
burn'em (Jul 03, 2001 06:34 p.m.):
Alright here is what I have one Console is:
C:program filesfolding@homefah.exe
And the second is:
C:program filesfolding2@home-localfah-local.exe
Will this work?
Thanks.No unfortunately it will not work what follows is how to do it properly taken from our team pages tricks section.
06:. I have a Dual Processor machine. Am I able to run Multiple instances of F@H?
YES! Absolutely, just run the install program twice and make sure to specify different directories. Now go the Shortcut's for the console and change the target line to read like this.
"C:Program FilesFolding@Homefah.exe" -local Click apply and click ok, now start up the Consoles, by specifying local you are telling each folding installation to get it's own unit's to process otherwise they will process just the one. This step is important!
If you already have your Folding@Home client setup once you run the install again to install it into it's own directory and THEN you copy the fahclient, opls.prm and client.cfg files into the new directory you created. And that should be all you have to do to run F@H SMP
You may still run one copy without the -local flag, and it will use the installation directory, but do not run simultaneous copies of Folding@home from of the same directory - they would interfere with each others data and not accomplish very much.
Hope this helps!
J
I try to follow the direction in the second paragraph but could not find "fahclient" in the folder.
I looked in Windows Task manager and it shows both fah.exe running @ 50% cpu usage.
Still lost.
OK. Using the directories you provided in your previous example the shortcut target for the first instance would look like this:
C:\program files\folding@home\fah.exe -local
and the shortcut target for the second instance would look like this:
C:\program files\folding2@home\fah.exe -local
Note that there is a space between "fah.exe" and the "-local" switch.
Also, each fah client process will show 50% cpu usage so that is correct. It's telling you that each client is using 1/2 of the available total cpu cycles since it's using only 1 of the 2 processors in the system. Two clients, each running at 50%, is using 100% of the cpu cyles available. Make sense?
Let us know if you have any more trouble with it.
burn'em
07-04-01, 01:03 PM
Ferris (Jul 04, 2001 07:19 a.m.):
OK. Using the directories you provided in your previous example the shortcut target for the first instance would look like this:
C:\program files\folding@home\fah.exe -local
and the shortcut target for the second instance would look like this:
C:\program files\folding2@home\fah.exe -local
Note that there is a space between "fah.exe" and the "-local" switch.
Also, each fah client process will show 50% cpu usage so that is correct. It's telling you that each client is using 1/2 of the available total cpu cycles since it's using only 1 of the 2 processors in the system. Two clients, each running at 50%, is using 100% of the cpu cyles available. Make sense?
Let us know if you have any more trouble with it.
Still lost. Ok I installed twice. Folder Name- folding@home and Folding@home2. Both have fah.exe in then. Where does the -local come in. Changing the fah.exe to fah.exe -local in the folder doesn't work. Changing the short cut taget in start menu to:
C:\program Files\Folding@Home\fah.exe -local doesn't work.
Where I'm I messing up? Do I make the changes when I install or after?
Thank Again.
Allan Nielsen
07-04-01, 01:07 PM
You shouldn't rename the exe files to *.exe -local. You should only edit a shortcut to them, and change the target. You say this doesn't work? Weird... it works fine when I try it!
burn'em
07-04-01, 01:14 PM
Allan Nielsen (Jul 04, 2001 01:07 p.m.):
You shouldn't rename the exe files to *.exe -local. You should only edit a shortcut to them, and change the target. You say this doesn't work? Weird... it works fine when I try it!
Where did you change the short cut. I when start- programs- folding- right clicked console- properties- changed trage there.
Allan Nielsen
07-04-01, 01:20 PM
Try creating a new shortcut to your desktop. Change the command line or whatever it is called in the shortcut... does this work?
burn'em (Jul 04, 2001 01:03 p.m.):
Still lost. Ok I installed twice. Folder Name- folding@home and Folding@home2. Both have fah.exe in then. Where does the -local come in. Changing the fah.exe to fah.exe -local in the folder doesn't work. Changing the short cut taget in start menu to:
C:\program Files\Folding@Home\fah.exe -local doesn't work.
Where I'm I messing up? Do I make the changes when I install or after?
Thank Again.
Here's what you need to do, to each of the installed Folding @ Home programs they both created a Shortcut yes ?
Take those shortcuts and place them into your Startup folder in your start menu, under programs *This ensures that they both start automatically when you boot your computer.
Name each shortcut differently for example mine are name FAH SMP#1 and FAH SMP#2
Now right click on each shortcut and go to properties here you need to modify the target lines by adding a space at the end and typing in -local
Click ok and then click apply, repeat this process for the Second process of Folding. I have also included a picture to hopefully help you a bit more.
J - Just in case anyone is wondering that is my Dual 366 Celly running @ Dual 550, w/Win 2k Advanced Server, running two processes of Folding and two processes of Seti. Soon to be upgraded to a Dual 533 overclocked to who knows how high they can get ? 533 PPGA's are the last of the 370's my BP6 will support =( Without extensive mod's to the mobo that is.
burn'em
07-04-01, 01:55 PM
I think I got it now. Thank for all your help. any way to check make sure it folding on both cpu's is it just the cup usage in Task Manager?
Thanks Again.
Should give you a different percentage for each unit one should continue on with the unit it was processing and the other program should pick up the new end of it. Hope this all helps!
J
burn'em
07-04-01, 02:19 PM
SpeeDj (Jul 04, 2001 02:00 p.m.):
Should give you a different percentage for each unit one should continue on with the unit it was processing and the other program should pick up the new end of it. Hope this all helps!
J
Yes!!! one is folding odds and the other is folding evens
Congrats you have now setup successfully a Dual Processor Box folding for Overclockers.com folding team!!! Woohoo =)
Seems pretty easy once you sit back and look at it, doesn't it ? =)
There are some more faq's in the team page that people might want to check out!
J - Folding @ Home - Tips & Tricks Guru
Athlonman
02-08-02, 08:23 PM
Sorry, I keep trying to set this up on my dual, but it won't work.
It keeps saying that there is already a F@H client running when I go to start up the other one.......
I renamed the targets to
"C:\Program Files\Folding2@Home\winFAH2.exe" -local
"C:\Program Files\Folding@Home\winFAH.exe" -local
Why wont this work?
They are both in there own directories......
This is how I have my targets set up on my dually
"C:\Program Files\fah1\FAH2Console-v217.exe" -local
"C:\Program Files\fah2\FAH2Console-v217processor2.exe" -local
I think you need different folders for each client
Originally posted by ClaytonComp
Sorry, I keep trying to set this up on my dual, but it won't work.
It keeps saying that there is already a F@H client running when I go to start up the other one.......
I renamed the targets to
"C:\Program Files\Folding2@Home\winFAH2.exe" -local
"C:\Program Files\Folding@Home\winFAH.exe" -local
Why wont this work?
They are both in there own directories......
It is because you need to use the console ver. to get it to work. The graphical ver. puts an entry in the registry.
I see the problem. I am assuming that you have set up two separate directories and have installed the client in each directory.
You need to download the test only client to make this work. Some names have changed on the 2.0 version. The console client used to be like the text only version. The gui client won't work for this.
Here is the official release of the text only version
http://folding.stanford.edu/release/FAH2Console.exe
Here is the 2.17 beta which seems to be pretty good.
http://folding.stanford.edu/beta/FAH2Console-v217.exe
Athlonman
02-08-02, 08:36 PM
When I try to change mine to that, it says I cant "the path and file name are incorrect"...........
Athlonman
02-08-02, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by Ploaf
I see the problem. I am assuming that you have set up two separate directories and have installed the client in each directory.
You need to download the test only client to make this work. Some names have changed on the 2.0 version. The console client used to be like the text only version. The gui client won't work for this.
Here is the official release of the text only version
http://folding.stanford.edu/release/FAH2Console.exe
Here is the 2.17 beta which seems to be pretty good.
http://folding.stanford.edu/beta/FAH2Console-v217.exe
Im trying this now.....
Originally posted by ClaytonComp
When I try to change mine to that, it says I cant "the path and file name are incorrect"...........
My advice is to uninstall then install the console ver. not the gui ver. in two different directories then run one with the local flag then shut it down now run #2 with the local flag. Use ver. 2.17 found on the beta page. then you can run them both at the same time.
Athlonman
02-08-02, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by Ploaf
I see the problem. I am assuming that you have set up two separate directories and have installed the client in each directory.
You need to download the test only client to make this work. Some names have changed on the 2.0 version. The console client used to be like the text only version. The gui client won't work for this.
Here is the official release of the text only version
http://folding.stanford.edu/release/FAH2Console.exe
Here is the 2.17 beta which seems to be pretty good.
http://folding.stanford.edu/beta/FAH2Console-v217.exe
IT WORKED!!!
w00t!!! :D
THIS IS AWESOME!! :D
Originally posted by ClaytonComp
IT WORKED!!!
w00t!!! :D
THIS IS AWESOME!! :D
Just make sure you set your config info on both instances.
Gandalf
02-08-02, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by kendan
Just make sure you set your config info on both instances.
(That was me "Gandalf" on my friends comp - ClaytonComp - setting up those clients on the dual)
What do you mean by setting the config?
OH YAH!! TEAM 32!!!
UH OH!!!
How do I do that on the graphical version?
If you are using the graphical version then you can right click on the icon and the option to configure the client should appear in the menu.
With the text only version you will need to run the client with the
-config command flag. This is done the same way that you set the client up to run in the local directory, but instead of -local you use -config.
WTG Gandalf and ClaytonComp :D
Gandalf
02-08-02, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by Ploaf
If you are using the graphical version then you can right click on the icon and the option to configure the client should appear in the menu.
With the text only version you will need to run the client with the
-config command flag. This is done the same way that you set the client up to run in the local directory, but instead of -local you use -config.
WTG Gandalf and ClaytonComp :D
TY! :D
So once I am done with the -config I can go back to -local right?
Right. Just shut down the client and restart it. If I'm not mistaken this version of the client was written so that it would run locally anyway, but it's still best to specify it just in case. :)
Oh yeah. YW:D It took me a couple of glances to figure that one out.
Gandalf
02-08-02, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by Ploaf
Right. Just shut down the client and restart it. If I'm not mistaken this version of the client was written so that it would run locally anyway, but it's still best to specify it just in case. :)
Oh yeah. YW:D It took me a couple of glances to figure that one out.
Thanx!
All set up now! :D
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