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kenji
10-11-02, 09:03 PM
heh, I dont know if any of you seen this before or know the person but this is some pretty nice stuff. He has been doing it since overclocking has been invented. Unfortunatly the site in in japanese but the pictures are very good and make things very clear:

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/simanto/oc/UltraVapo_unit.htm

Also here is his other site, if you dont speek japanese just click around in the left menu, again the pictures tell the story as good as any words, make sure you see all, very impressive:

http://www.cisnet.or.jp/home/masamoto/

kenji
10-11-02, 10:21 PM
how does one go about filling am R134 system?

CrystalMethod
10-11-02, 11:30 PM
Carefully....
But seriously, you need the right equipment to do it properly, and it's not worth it if you don't know someone who has access to it. Mechanic or refridgeration repair person.

kenji
10-11-02, 11:37 PM
ok, but when you build a system like that you just take the compressor to the shop and have them fill it or the whole system, because I think I heard you just have to get your compressor filled...

Caffinehog
10-12-02, 12:24 AM
Umm... if you can attach the proper valve, you can fill it yourself for $30 with stuff from wal-mart. Attaching that valve and making sure the system is sealed is the tough part.

kenji
10-13-02, 04:28 PM
i duno about that, it would have to be a 1 way valve and how do you know when to stop? besides the system is full of air, how would you get air out?

Caffinehog
10-13-02, 09:59 PM
Well, there's plenty of pressure on the gas/liquid used for cooling, so the air isn't a big problem. (About 40psi on the low pressure, 300+ on the high pressure.) And if you've ever refilled the AC on your car, you'll have seen that there's a big valve that works like a tire valve on it. You could probably find one of those at a junkyard.

Mr. $T$
10-14-02, 01:08 AM
ALL that to cool a freaking K6-2 ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


CRAZY. :rolleyes: http://www.cisnet.or.jp/home/masamoto/Setup2.jpg

wildfrogman
10-14-02, 02:16 AM
trying to get the fastest K6-2... Or possibly a k6-3+ chip. Its more about the competition than raw performance sometimes. Yes crazy but only if your compair it to "normal" and what is nromal eh?

#13
10-14-02, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by Mr. $T$
ALL that to cool a freaking K6-2 ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


CRAZY. :rolleyes: http://www.cisnet.or.jp/home/masamoto/Setup2.jpg

I wonder, why didn't he take off the heat shield? I guess if he's freezing it, it doesn't really matter...

RoadWarrior
10-14-02, 11:09 PM
Actually liquid will seep under the heat spreader it's only attached at the corners.

Wonder how fast he got it, can't read anything other than it's a K6-2-400.

Road Warrior

Intrepid
10-15-02, 01:04 AM
Here is a literal translation of the site for you guys.

" To tell the truth * & * how it will do that it is not being * *, how the oak it does not become the oral ‚á, it is is, but * * " " the it is, * & * such time so * * to be good a certain thing * & * you how, margin! " (Shimamoto Kazuhiko author from " ™á obtain the pen")

If with with the meaning which is said somehow basically by your, if it is being, it does, don't you think?, no thing the * & & & * obtaining -, as for the happening of thing July of 2001 first decade. The Slot of the Vapochill -> the Socket Upgradekit the masamoto which is procured for investigating, was investigated ended the fact that with thing you consult the Upgrade with the useless ƒ‚ƒg was start.

As for the diversion part from Slot-Vapochill, only 3 points of condenser, bellows tube and pencil dryer. Whether or not those which already it is good calling the Vapochill as expected * & *, greatly it is doubt, but, there is a force and a beauty which do not permit such a doubt in the Vapochill which is completed in 2001 year 11 end of the month conception (strike) 2 months, by way of production 3 month.

The Slot edition Vapochill which simply is excessive Socket conversion -> conversion to the advanced EVA -> exchange to the 40WR22 compressor -> transplantation of the cold air vessel heart and, that that with while saying, story escalating (laughing) finally, to remodelling, piping heat insulation and power source wiring of the full tower case including, became the carrying which everything is asked.

With with the meaning which is said, the latest article the artistic work basically by the hand in all masamoto, introduces 40010 rivers just. The Bunchu photograph the majority, received those where the masamoto was photographed production midway. Concerning the detailed specifications, because main person of the masamoto is introduced with this way, collectively viewing.


that is the first part of the site, you want more?

kenji
10-15-02, 01:16 AM
I am really interested in how EXACTLY he made it. Like the pressures, the refrigerants, and why the hel is there only ONE pipe!!!!!!!! where does the refrigerant exit to the radiator and later compressor!!!???? very interesting design. I have personaly copyed the disign of the chamber around the evaporator block but I want more detale. heh, I actually have the guys email but unfortunatly i dont speek japanese ^_^ if anyone here is willing to talk to him it would be so cool

Intrepid
10-15-02, 01:08 PM
I can stanslate it with a teanslator program or i can speak somke very primitive japanese.

kenji
10-15-02, 11:23 PM
well here is his email:

masamoto_cis@mail.goo.ne.jp

kenji
10-17-02, 01:19 AM
anyone tryed to contact him?

kenji
10-18-02, 04:57 PM
guess not