No increase from a Gf2 to a Gf4 ????WTF

[fingers68]

Just got a Gf4 ti 4200 128 meg ddr to replace my Gf2 pro 64 meg...

I was not expecting to much increase in FPS, but to get NO increase I was to say the least, left scratching my head.

Sys is
1 gig p3
396 meg
win XP

tested on GP Legends.......NO increase at all .... ???????? WTF

3d mark score ..... 6000........just 300 more than my old Gf2. ?

A mate thinks the 1gig might not be enough to run the card ..... he thinks these gf4's need p4's and BIG mhz mem to run them right??

If this is so then the whole nvidia thing is a ripp off...I would have done better with my old card and just going for a p4 2 ghz chip...

Unless there's something I have over looked....

But the drivers are in ok .

[Goodie]

I cant help ya at all, but I feel your pain. I am having the same trouble after going from a Geforce2 card as well, just go read my thread here. :( Sucks big time and even sucks more when I think that I spent more on this card then everything I have ever bought for this comp. :(

[SemiCycle]

It may simply come down to CPU scaling for ya.

Take a look at THIS (http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1650) article

Make sure you pay attention to page 3 and 4.....those deal with your video cards.

[james.miller]

thats a bad score. even my gf4 440mx is beating that. have you tried a fresh install? did you properly delete all nivida files before installing new drivers?

[SemiCycle]

BTW, this statment is on the final page

"In the end, the results are pretty much as you’d expect; it is the fastest GPUs that truly require very fast CPUs in order to feed them vertex data at a rate that can maintain their high performance levels"

[SemiCycle]

I agree that you should be getting about 7000 marks, but if you are getting that low score on both cards, then it must be something else.

AGP driver installed correctly?
Chipset driver?


Even after you get your system up to were it should be, there isn't going to be a huge difference between those two cards with your current CPU type and speed. I would say about 1000 - 1500 Marks.

[Robbie]

do you have 4x mode enabled in the bios?
Rob

[funnyperson1]

ummm how can you get 5700 with a geforce2 Pro on a PIII1GHZ....with my PIII approaching 900 i could only get 3600.....but yeah you should have a bit higher score...probably 6500-7500...

[SemiCycle]

Originally posted by funnyperson1
ummm how can you get 5700 with a geforce2 Pro on a PIII1GHZ....with my PIII approaching 900 i could only get 3600.....but yeah you should have a bit higher score...probably 6500-7500...


Wow, thanks for pointing that out funnyperson. For some strange reason, I thought he originally had a GF3, not a GF2 Pro.... Know I have to ask you the same question too. How the heck did you get such a high score with your original GF2 PRo on a PIII 1GHz? I just did a search on Madonion with GF2 PRO as the card and a PIII between 950 and 1050 adn the faster score was 4529. Hum?

[funnyperson1]

wait, are you running 3dmark 2000 or 2001?

[TUK101]

I had a Geforce 2 pro as well with my Celeron 800 oc'ed to 1066 and got 4200-4400 scores with mild oc on the card as well. Now i have a Celeron tualatin 1.1 gig oc'ed to 1.46 and I get 6200 scores. So I would say that it is your cpu. You got a very good score with your GF2 card, and you are only getting what your cpu can put out with your new GF4 card. Can you OC your P3 any? The higher the fsb, the higher the score you will most likely get with 3dmark. Good luck.

[fingers68]

3d mark 2000 is the bench

Yes the Bios is set, 4X agp, cas2 and all the rest of the go faster stripes.

I am yet to put a new sys on, but I have cleaned all the old drivers out.

running now 2001 mark will post score

[fingers68]

6300 in 3d mark 2001...

[SemiCycle]

with the ti4200, right?

[fingers68]

yes with the ti4200

just run 3dmark 2000.........score 6140

I think theres no subsitute for good old fasioned brute force....pure cpu power is what I need.....but that will wait a while till they come down to a more pocket friendly cost

[quegyboe]

I agree with many of the others here, you should always re-install your OS if you want premium performance from your upgrade.

[breez]

If you would try 3DMark2001 with the GF2 you would be getting much lower scores. Like 3500-4500.

[james.miller]

i still cant believe its down to his cpu. jeus, i wouldnt have thought that.
it doesnt look good though. according to the graphs - you are gonna score lower than me plainly because of your cpu. so du wanna swap cards? hehe

seriously if your gonna keep the gf4, i think its upgrading time, fingers68

[LoopyLee-C]

I have just this morning upgraded from an geforce 2 mx/mx 400 to a MSI GF4 TI4200. I am getting between 6750 and 7500. I am trying to overclock the thing but the 3D turbo wont work ? I have had to install the 29.20 to use Gforce tweak utill. I have heard that you should be able to get to the 9000 mark with a small amout of clocking. Im running a P4 1.4g with 2 x 64 pc800 & 2 x 128 pc800. and a 7200 40gig drive. so you are on the same level as me CPU wise now you have clocked it.

[skahtul]

Please view my system specs on my Sig, i am running the GeForce4MX440 right now. I installed Win98 fresh with all the drivers off the CD. It posted a score of 5219 (3dMark2001). with a few BIOS changes it went up a bit 5688. I thought I would see a differance if I installed Windows XP, formated drive, installed XP, installed all drivers from CD (I did this to keep the driver versions the same). I only got a score of 3879. What the ? I did everything I could think of, updated everything. The score just won't get back up. Any suggestions. I had this problem with my TI200. I wonder if 2001 was giving false readings when I installed it on 98, does that seem a little high?

[Captain Slug]

Originally posted by Robbie
do you have 4x mode enabled in the bios?
Rob

That's what I was going to ask.

If your BIOS is set to AGP 1x you're not going to see a performance difference between the two cards.

[funnyperson1]

Originally posted by fingers68
yes with the ti4200

just run 3dmark 2000.........score 6140

I think theres no subsitute for good old fasioned brute force....pure cpu power is what I need.....but that will wait a while till they come down to a more pocket friendly cost

in 2001 you would get 3500-4000 marks with the Geforce2 Pro...your scores are still a bit low though..

also upgrade all drivers...

[baqai]

Originally posted by fingers68
[B]Just got a Gf4 ti 4200 128 meg ddr to replace my Gf2 pro 64 meg...

I was not expecting to much increase in FPS, but to get NO increase I was to say the least, left scratching my head.

Sys is
1 gig p3
396 meg
win XP

tested on GP Legends.......NO increase at all .... ???????? WTF

3d mark score ..... 6000........just 300 more than my old Gf2. ?


heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! :( :( :(

i get only 4402 score in my 3d mark 2001 SE :(

and my system is

Athalon 1.4 Ghz
512 MB 133 MHz SDRAM
Asus A7V133
Hercules Geforce 2 Ultra
Detonator 40.41 drivers

if 6000 score was 300 more than his gf2 that makes his previous score 5700 i am not even CLOSE to that :(

i tried oc'ing my card a little and score came upto 4527 with memory at 486 and core at 264, but BF1942 started having these wierd images problems so i set the card at default

i dunno what is wrong *sniff* poor me !!! :rolleyes:

[-=UR=- Ranger]

Originally posted by baqai


heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! :( :( :(

i get only 4402 score in my 3d mark 2001 SE :(

and my system is

Athalon 1.4 Ghz
512 MB 133 MHz SDRAM
Asus A7V133
Hercules Geforce 2 Ultra
Detonator 40.41 drivers

if 6000 score was 300 more than his gf2 that makes his previous score 5700 i am not even CLOSE to that :(

i tried oc'ing my card a little and score came upto 4527 with memory at 486 and core at 264, but BF1942 started having these wierd images problems so i set the card at default

i dunno what is wrong *sniff* poor me !!! :rolleyes:

That sounds quite realistic to me, my system will do around 4350, in Win 2K and about 100 points more in 98

[funnyperson1]

Originally posted by baqai


heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! :( :( :(

i get only 4402 score in my 3d mark 2001 SE :(

and my system is

Athalon 1.4 Ghz
512 MB 133 MHz SDRAM
Asus A7V133
Hercules Geforce 2 Ultra
Detonator 40.41 drivers

if 6000 score was 300 more than his gf2 that makes his previous score 5700 i am not even CLOSE to that :(

i tried oc'ing my card a little and score came upto 4527 with memory at 486 and core at 264, but BF1942 started having these wierd images problems so i set the card at default

i dunno what is wrong *sniff* poor me !!! :rolleyes:

as UR-Ranger said, you are right on track.....the 5700 he had gotten was in 3dmark2000

[james.miller]

my gf4 440mx just breaks 6000 in 3dmark 2001se with my athlonxp

[Opie420]

I recently fried my ram/mobo and had to use my "backup" pc for a week (celeron@1.3ghz, abit bx6r2, 256m ram, 2 X 40gb 7200rpm drives in raid0, lian li pc60). I did some testing with a GForce3 Ti500 and my 9700 pro. My best with the Ti500 was 6000 3dmarks, and with my 9700 @ 434/720 I still only managed 7200. I just got my main rig up and running again (in the sig) and with the same 9700 pro I get 15800 3dmarks.

[baqai]

okay here is a question regarding overclocking the video card, its my first experience

i overclocked my card three times with different (surprising results)


geforce 2 ultra Default Settings : 3d mark 2001 SE Score : 4402

geforce 2 ultra overclocked mem 486 core 264 : 3d mark 2001 SE score : 4527


geforce 2 ultra overclocked mem 472 core 260 : 3d mark 2001 SE score : 4491

geforce 2 ultra overclocked mem default core 280 : 3d mark 2001 SE score : 4623

geforce 2 ultra overclocked mem 465 core 280 : 3d mark 2001 SE score : 4523

these results are from using detonator 40.41 drivers, i downloaded 40.72 (or which ever the latest beta is) turns out the file was corrupted *grumble* so i will download it again to see, from what i have heard they are pretty fast and good image quality,

it seems to me that increasing the speed of memory is doing no benefit in my case the result was decrease in score which was surprising to me, anyways i am going to increase the core a notch by notch till 300 (or till the card explodes which ever comes first hehe) to see what happens

why is the score coming down when i am increasing the memory shouldnt it be the other way around?

and what would be the ideal setting for geforce 2 ultra card? (its of hercules and have heatsinks on ram and a fan)

my MSI ti4200 128MB is coming in about three days and i HAVE to do something to kill time argh!!! man am i the only stupid person on face of this earth who goes to website and see the picture of the product and specification and read reviews and sigh again and again and than see the watch .. damn only one hour passed oh well !!!

[funnyperson1]

that is weird....because ive always heard the Geforce2s were mem bandwith bottlenecked......maybe your ram just cant take the oc? i know that ocing the core does next to nothing for my geforce2 Pro....

[baqai]

Originally posted by funnyperson1
that is weird....because ive always heard the Geforce2s were mem bandwith bottlenecked......maybe your ram just cant take the oc? i know that ocing the core does next to nothing for my geforce2 Pro....

yeah that's the thing surprising to me, i mean this is the first time i am doing this stuff but from what i have read increasing mem increases performances mine was opposite case, if i increase memory speed performance goes down, but increasing core speed is working like a charm


and here is the detailed report on my benchmarks (i am only including two of them)


Geforce 2 Ultra Overclocked Core 280 Memory 465

3DMARK2001 PROJECT FILE

PROJECT
Name Geforce 2 Ultra Overclocked Core 280 Memory 465
Description
Registration Name cO2
Registration Key 2SR0N-WFLSS-UCQ0Z-SW01A
3DMark Version 330

DISPLAY
Platform NVIDIA GeForce2 Ultra
CPU Optimization D3D Hardware T&L
Width 1024
Height 768
Depth 32 bit
Z-Buffering 24 bit
Texture Format Compressed
Buffering Double
Refresh Rate 60 Hz
FSAA Mode None

OPTIONS
Show Title Screens Yes
Continuous Benchmark No
Benchmark Run Count 1
Demo Sounds Enabled Yes
Continuous Demo No
Game Sound Effects Enabled Yes
Game Music Enabled Yes
Game Detail Level Low

RESULTS
3DMark Score 4523
Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail 86.7 fps
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail 29.7 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail 81.6 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail 35.9 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail 79.6 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail 36.7 fps
Game 4 - Nature Not supported by hardware
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 391.2 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 745.2 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light) 24.7 MTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights) 6.7 MTriangles/s
Environment Bump Mapping Not supported by hardware
DOT3 Bump Mapping 73.4 fps
Vertex Shader 41.5 fps
Pixel Shader Not supported by hardware
Advanced Pixel Shader Not supported by hardware
Point Sprites 9.9 MSprites/s

SYSTEM INFO

System Info Version 2.2
Installation ID 0x00000000
OEM ID

CPU INFO
CENTRAL PROCESSING UNITS
Manufacturer AMD
Family Athlon(tm)
Internal Clock 1.41 GHz
Internal Clock Maximum 1.41 GHz
External Clock 133 MHz
Socket Designation SOCKET A
Type Central
Upgrade <unknown>
Capabilities MMX, CMov, RDTSC, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!
Version Model 4, Stepping 4
CPUID 0x00000644

CACHES
Level 1
Capacity 128 KB
Type <unknown>
Type Details <unknown>
Error Correction Type <unknown>
Associativity <unknown>

Level 2
Capacity 256 KB
Type <unknown>
Type Details <unknown>
Error Correction Type <unknown>
Associativity <unknown>

DIRECTX INFO
DirectX Version 8.1

DIRECTDRAW INFO
DirectDraw Version 5.1.2600.1106

DISPLAY DEVICES
Description Primary Display Driver
Manufacturer NVIDIA
Name NVIDIA GeForce2 Ultra
Total Local Video Memory 64 MB
Total Local Texture Memory 64 MB
Total AGP Memory 64 MB
Display Driver nv4_disp.dll
Display Driver Version 6.13.10.4041
Driver WHQL Certified No
Max Texture Width 2048
Max Texture Height 2048
Max User Clipping Planes 0
Max Active Hardware Lights 8
Max Texture Blending Stages 8
Textures In Single Pass 2
Vertex Shader Version N/A
Pixel Shader Version N/A
Max Vertex Blend Matrices 0
Max Texture Coordinates 8
Vendor ID 0x10de
Device ID 0x0152
Sub-System ID 0x00101681
Revision 0xa4


TEXTURE FORMATS
Pixel Format 32-bit ARGB [8888]
Pixel Format 32-bit RGB [888]
Pixel Format 16-bit RGB [565]
Pixel Format 16-bit RGB [555]
Pixel Format 16-bit ARGB [1555]
Pixel Format 16-bit ARGB [4444]
Pixel Format 8-bit Indexed()
Pixel Format FourCC [DXT1]
Pixel Format FourCC [DXT2]
Pixel Format FourCC [DXT3]
Pixel Format FourCC [DXT4]
Pixel Format FourCC [DXT5]
3D Capabilities AGP Texturing, Hardware Transform and Lighting, Positional Lights, Subpixel Accurate Rasterizing, Stencil Buffers, Range Fog, Table Fog, Vertex Fog, W-Fog, Specular Gouraud Shading, Anisotropic Filtering, Bilinear Filtering, Point Sampling, Trilinear Filtering, Additive Texture Blending, Dot3 Texture Blending, Multiplicative Texture Blending, Subtractive Texture Blending, Cube Mapping, Factor Alpha Blending, Vertex Alpha Blending, Texture Alpha Blending, Texture Clamping, Texture Mirroring, Texture Wrapping, Guard Band Support, Rendering to a Window, Mipmap LOD Bias Adjustment, Projected Textures, Point Primitive Support, Full-Screen Anti-Aliasing, DXT Compressed Textures

DIRECTSHOW INFO
DirectShow Version 6.04.2600.0


MEMORY INFO
Total Physical Memory 512 MB
Free Physical Memory 317.16 MB
Total Pagefile Memory 2.22 GB
Free Pagefile Memory 2.08 GB

MEMORY ARRAYS
Max Module Capacity 1.50 GB
Location <unknown>
Use <unknown>
Supported Error D&C <unknown>
Supported Speeds <unknown>
Supported Types <unknown>
Supported Voltages <unknown>

MEMORY SLOTS
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Form Factor DIMM
Frequency 0 Hz
Slot DIMM 1
Manufacturer <unknown>
Type <unknown>
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Frequency 0 Hz
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Manufacturer <unknown>
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Frequency 0 Hz
Slot
Manufacturer
Type <unknown>
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Enabled Size 0 bytes
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MOTHERBOARD INFO
Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Model <A7V133>
Version REV 1.xx
BIOS Vendor
BIOS Version N/A
BIOS Release Date
BIOS Properties

CARD SLOTS
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Details Available, Long
Device Class <unknown>
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Device Manufacturer
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IRQ 0

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IRQ 0

Number 3
Designation PCI-3
Type PCI
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Data Bus Width 32
Details In Use, Long
Device Class Modem
Device Name Generic SoftK56
Device Manufacturer Generic
Device Driver Date
Device Vendor ID 0x14f1
Device ID 0x2015
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IRQ 9

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Device Name Creative SB Live! Value (WDM)
Device Manufacturer Creative
Device Driver Date
Device Vendor ID 0x1102
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Device Revision 0x04
IRQ 9

Number 0
Designation AGP
Type AGP
Characteristics <unknown>
Data Bus Width 32
Details In Use, Long
Device Class Display Adapter
Device Name NVIDIA GeForce2 Ultra
Device Manufacturer NVIDIA
Device Driver Date
Device Vendor ID 0x10de
Device ID 0x0152
Device Sub-System ID 0x00101681
Device Revision 0xa4
IRQ 9

SYSTEM DEVICES
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Manufacturer VIA
Vendor ID 0x1106
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Subsystem ID 0x00000000
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Description VIA Tech PCI to ISA bridge
Manufacturer VIA
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Description VIA CPU to AGP Controller
Manufacturer VIA
Vendor ID 0x1106
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Subsystem ID 0x00000000
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Revision 2.0
Rate 1x, 2x, 4x (4x enabled)
Aperture Size 64 MB
Sideband Addressing supported (disabled)
Fast Write supported (enabled)

MONITOR INFO
MONITORS
Name Gateway EV900
Manufacturer Gateway
Max Width 0
Max Height 0

POWER SUPPLY INFO
BATTERIES

OPERATING SYSTEM INFO
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Version 5.1.2600
Service Pack Service Pack 1
Locale US
Desktop Width 1280
Desktop Height 1024
Desktop BPP 32

HARD DISK INFO
HARD DISKS
Name ST340810A
Manufacturer (Standard disk drives)
Capacity 37.27 GB
Model ST340810A
Interface Type IDE

Name ST380021 A SCSI Disk Device
Manufacturer (Standard disk drives)
Capacity 74.53 GB
Model ST380021 A SCSI Disk Device
Interface Type SCSI



Geforce 2 Ultra Overclocked Core 280 Memory Default Settings


3DMARK2001 PROJECT FILE

PROJECT
Name Geforce 2 Ultra Overclocked Core 280 Memory Default Settings
Description
Registration Name
Registration Key
3DMark Version 330

DISPLAY
Platform NVIDIA GeForce2 Ultra
CPU Optimization D3D Hardware T&L
Width 1024
Height 768
Depth 32 bit
Z-Buffering 24 bit
Texture Format Compressed
Buffering Double
Refresh Rate 60 Hz
FSAA Mode None

OPTIONS
Show Title Screens Yes
Continuous Benchmark No
Benchmark Run Count 1
Demo Sounds Enabled Yes
Continuous Demo No
Game Sound Effects Enabled Yes
Game Music Enabled Yes
Game Detail Level Low

RESULTS
3DMark Score 4623
Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail 88.1 fps
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail 30.8 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail 82.7 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail 36.6 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail 80.4 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail 38.1 fps
Game 4 - Nature Not supported by hardware
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 385.4 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 733.0 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light) 25.2 MTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights) 6.7 MTriangles/s
Environment Bump Mapping Not supported by hardware
DOT3 Bump Mapping 72.4 fps
Vertex Shader 43.2 fps
Pixel Shader Not supported by hardware
Advanced Pixel Shader Not supported by hardware
Point Sprites 9.8 MSprites/s

SYSTEM INFO

System Info Version 2.2
Installation ID 0x00000000
OEM ID

CPU INFO
CENTRAL PROCESSING UNITS
Manufacturer AMD
Family Athlon(tm)
Internal Clock 1.41 GHz
Internal Clock Maximum 1.41 GHz
External Clock 133 MHz
Socket Designation SOCKET A
Type Central
Upgrade <unknown>
Capabilities MMX, CMov, RDTSC, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!
Version Model 4, Stepping 4
CPUID 0x00000644

CACHES
Level 1
Capacity 128 KB
Type <unknown>
Type Details <unknown>
Error Correction Type <unknown>
Associativity <unknown>

Level 2
Capacity 256 KB
Type <unknown>
Type Details <unknown>
Error Correction Type <unknown>
Associativity <unknown>

DIRECTX INFO
DirectX Version 8.1

DIRECTDRAW INFO
DirectDraw Version 5.1.2600.1106

DISPLAY DEVICES
Description Primary Display Driver
Manufacturer NVIDIA
Name NVIDIA GeForce2 Ultra
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Total Local Texture Memory 64 MB
Total AGP Memory 64 MB
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Display Driver Version 6.13.10.4041
Driver WHQL Certified No
Max Texture Width 2048
Max Texture Height 2048
Max User Clipping Planes 0
Max Active Hardware Lights 8
Max Texture Blending Stages 8
Textures In Single Pass 2
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DIRECTSHOW INFO
DirectShow Version 6.04.2600.0


MEMORY INFO
Total Physical Memory 512 MB
Free Physical Memory 336.75 MB
Total Pagefile Memory 2.22 GB
Free Pagefile Memory 2.05 GB

MEMORY ARRAYS
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Location <unknown>
Use <unknown>
Supported Error D&C <unknown>
Supported Speeds <unknown>
Supported Types <unknown>
Supported Voltages <unknown>

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Slot
Manufacturer
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MOTHERBOARD INFO
Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC.
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Rate 1x, 2x, 4x (4x enabled)
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Sideband Addressing supported (disabled)
Fast Write supported (enabled)

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BATTERIES

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here is my ut2003 benchmark score from default settings umm i know low but not too bad for my rig (i guess)

[skahtul]

Originally posted by james.miller
my gf4 440mx just breaks 6000 in 3dmark 2001se with my athlonxp


Well I guess I better keep looking for the problem :confused:

[baqai]

yeah that's the same thing i was wondering,

btw is geforce2 ultra faster than geforce2 pro??

and from what i have read around geforce4mx is a modified geforce2mx but with new artchitecture and faster memory, i think it should be able to beat an ultra

[funnyperson1]

Geforce 2 Ultra: 250/460 stock
Geforce2 Pro: 200/400 stock
mine on which i got 3600 points : 230/465

[baqai]

i am running my card on 280/458, by the way 458 came by default on my hercules card i havent touched it, i guess its already overclocked at factory

i am going to increase the core and see what happens :)

[Robbie]

Originally posted by fingers68
6300 in 3d mark 2001...

Isn't that kinda low? I get almost that with my TI200.
Rob

[Digital Pimp]

my Geforce2 Pro 32MB!!! gets just over 5000 in 3dmark 2001SE in the system below, the card was running at 230/405 winXP pro 41.72 det's

Digital

[funnyperson1]

Originally posted by baqai
i am running my card on 280/458, by the way 458 came by default on my hercules card i havent touched it, i guess its already overclocked at factory

i am going to increase the core and see what happens :)

458 is actually underclocked for an ultra

[baqai]

Originally posted by Digital Pimp
my Geforce2 Pro 32MB!!! gets just over 5000 in 3dmark 2001SE in the system below, the card was running at 230/405 winXP pro 41.72 det's

Digital

how in the name of earth you manage to have that kinda score? :(

no matter how hard i tried till now the max i could get with my ultra was 4623

[Digital Pimp]

no idea, but with win 98se i couldent get over 4000

here are my results, i used the best performance setting for direct 3d

results are from an Excell sheet and are formatted as

% Oc'd___Core____Memory_____Score_____operating system

DEFAULT 200 333 3260 win98se
DEFAULT 200 333 3422 win98se
10% oc no img q 210 350 3542 win98se
20% oc 220 366 3515 win98se
30% oc 230 400 3901 win98se



DEFAULT no pro 200 333 4266 winxp
DEFAULT best perf no pro 200 333 4426 winxp
10% oc 210 350 4596 winxp
20% oc 220 366 4739 winxp
230 405 5110 winxp


hope that helps, Digital

[james.miller]

ooh thinking about it. when i said my gf4 440mx just tops 6000 points in 4dmark 2001se, what i didnt tell you was that i was using the 29.42 dets. havent try benching on 40.41 yet.

[baqai]

i am trying 49.72 right now although not that difference in speed but image quality have improved and its more stable on my system