Gutless Asus

[mayagrafix]

Got a hold of a HP 4457 with Asus mobo (intel 440BX) and 400 mhz celeron. After some research me thinks I should be able to go to 600 mhz by changing the FSB from 67 to 100 mhz. However, when I tried to change the jumpers, BIG SURPRISE: THERE ARE NO JUMPERS TO CHANGE! even though Asus manual for this same exact mobo model (MEB-VM) says there should be.

There are weld spots were the jumpers should be.

Is there anyway to get around this?

How does HP tell mobo to run at 67 FSB without any jumpers?

Do I just get a hold of some jumpers and put them in?

Thanks in advance for your input. I really apreciate the help!

[Monaco]

welcome to the forums, mayagrafix!

Do I just get a hold of some jumpers and put them in?

Yup! That is what I would do in your situation. The board jumper is a 3-pin deal, with 2 points soldered closed, right? I'd just unsolder 'em, then get some really fine wire out and redo it permanently. Less chance of my shaky hands ruining the board with a poorly placed hot iron that way :D

Oh, if possible- work from the bottom of the motherboard! Less to break.

Although- there is very little chance of that 400 making it to 600, especially without a voltage boost. According to the CPU database on the front page, that core averaged 542mhz at most. And that is usually with an Ocer mobo and a huge voltage increase. If the FSB jumper was removed, I'm betting that voltage selection on that mobo never existed.

But hey, I know I sure as heck would try it anyway! Good luck :D

[stool]

The big problem is not Asus but HP. Companies make OEM equipment like mobos to specifics set down by the purchaser. You'll see boards like this from Compaq, HP, Gateway, Dell, etc., which are not exactly the same as the commercial releases.

As long as you don't care if you fry the board, you can try soldering jumpers, but if you plan on keeping the board, I wouldn't recommend it.

[Captain Slug]

440 based Slot 1 boards are alot easier to adjust with BIOS tweaking software. Testing multiple FSB adjustments from windows instead of tinkering with the soldering on the board is a much safer route to travel.

[DDR-PIII]

Originally posted by Captain Slug
440 based Slot 1 boards are alot easier to adjust with BIOS tweaking software. Testing multiple FSB adjustments from windows instead of tinkering with the soldering on the board is a much safer route to travel.

Where can i find some of this bios tweaking software ?

[mayagrafix]

hey people:

Thanks for ur post´s. Another big surpise is that 440BX chipset does not support 133 mhz ram.

Do you know how expesive 100 mhz ram is down here? X2! (twice as much) what 133 costs and I´m not talkin´the prices u guys pay in the industrilized world.
(Mexico price per gallon: 2.25 per gallon)

Like a canuk once told me about gasoline prices in the great white north:

Our gasoline is so much better than ur American gas, hey! just look at the price! (twice as much) ;)

[mayagrafix]

BTW: I found this:

http://www.3dcenter.de/downloads/softfsb.php

to download soft USB from Hoda which is not available from his home page any more :(

[DDR-PIII]

Originally posted by mayagrafix
hey people:

Thanks for ur post´s. Another big surpise is that 440BX chipset does not support 133 mhz ram.

Do you know how expesive 100 mhz ram is down here? X2! (twice as much) what 133 costs and I´m not talkin´the prices u guys pay in the industrilized world.
(Mexico price per gallon: 2.25 per gallon)

Like a canuk once told me about gasoline prices in the great white north:

Our gasoline is so much better than ur American gas, hey! just look at the price! (twice as much) ;) yeah it does... im on an Intel SE"440BX"-2 MOBO with the FSB @ 133 with 256 mb of pc-133 ram

[Captain Slug]

Originally posted by DDR-PIII
yeah it does... im on an Intel SE"440BX"-2 MOBO with the FSB @ 133 with 256 mb of pc-133 ram

You have a BX-2, he doesn't

[Monaco]

mayagrafix: you can use PC133 in your PC100 system, without any problem. The 'PCXXX" refers to the maximum operating speed of the RAM. If you put PC133 RAM in a system running @ 100mhz FSB, you will just run the RAM at 100mhz. Slower than what it was intended for, but it will work with zero problems.

[DDR-PIII]

well lwhats the difference ? PC-133 should be able to go in there right ? the mobo would just keep the FSB @ 100 Mhz ? then OC ?

[DDR-PIII]

Originally posted by Monster of Rock
mayagrafix: you can use PC133 in your PC100 system, without any problem. The 'PCXXX" refers to the maximum operating speed of the RAM. If you put PC133 RAM in a system running @ 100mhz FSB, you will just run the RAM at 100mhz. Slower than what it was intended for, but it will work with zero problems.

yeah i was trying to get to that but thanks D:

[mayagrafix]

Gee whiz guys, then I must had a bad stick of ram 'cause when I put it in, No Boot :(

I tried the the 133 stick by itself and also with the old 32 meg PC100 ram alongside to see if it worked that way, but no joy either.

However, I'll head on over to Trader Joe´s PC hut mañana and try it again with another PC133 256 meg stick.

Or could this be another HP OEM fascist restraint (as they did with FSB jumpers) to the common man's God given right to overclock?

[DDR-PIII]

Originally posted by mayagrafix
Gee whiz guys, then I must had a bad stick of ram 'cause when I put it in, No Boot :(

I tried the the 133 stick by itself and also with the old 32 meg PC100 ram alongside to see if it worked that way, but no joy either.

However, I'll head on over to Trader Joe´s PC hut mañana and try it again with another PC133 256 meg stick.

Or could this be another HP OEM fascist restraint (as they did with FSB jumpers) to the common man's God given right to overclock?

how about you find the newest bios for your MOBO and try the memory after that.

[mayagrafix]

Good advice Sr. DDR- Although I'm still traumatized about flashing the bios since I buggered my previous Asus A7V mobo. Luckily I was able to exchange it for another one but since then I swore I would never screw with the bios again! Guess the best thing to do when u fall off a horse is to get back on right away!

[DDR-PIII]

true :)