Should be required reading

[Slake]

RE: Todays "I am not paying a lot for that HSF" article by Ed Stroligo .
http://www.overclockers.com/tips486/
I am bookmarking Ed's article on cooling a higly overclocked chip. This article is fantastic in explaining the requirements of a HSF to do the job. As do all of Ed's articles , it de-mystifys and educates.

[Mord-Sith]

I read that and was wondering. what is the c/w of a fop38. Thats my current HSF and Im thinking of getting a palamino. Thats the HSF I want to use if Im not going to over clock. If I decide to oc Ill go water.

[Slake]

I'm pretty sure you can find that information in the cooling section of tips and tricks from the home page. At work now or I'd try to finf it for ya!

[Mord-Sith]

thanks Ill look around ... I gtg to work now too.

[MikeTimbers]

Slake (Jun 04, 2001 09:59 a.m.):
I'm pretty sure you can find that information in the cooling section of tips and tricks from the home page. At work now or I'd try to finf it for ya!

http://www.dansdata.com/coolercomp.htm (http://) claim an FOP38 has a 0.61 C/W
http://www.globalwinusa.com/products/fop38.htm (http://) claim 0.628description

[Mord-Sith]

wow somthin isn't consistant. In eds article he says that a stock HSF has a .50 c/w but my fop38 has .61 ??? and on that same article where it lists my fo38 it also has water rigs that only go down to .41. Somones numbers are messed.

[Len]

I've noticed that different sites come up with different values for C/W. It seems like they should be at least similar. Maybe its due to different testing procedures or the different ways they measure temps.

[*spazzed*]

The article does provide a rough idea of what you should do....buy someting more expensive now, rather than make it expensive later.

[Spode]

I think you will find it to be testing. My C/W tend to be quite close to ed's because I try and test them correctly.

My personal C/W for a fop38 is 0.22 . But this was with a duron@800@1.95v. With a tbird you would expect a C/W of about 0.20 due to the larger die size.

You know where to look if you want to see the rest of the C/W's I got. Nuff said.

In genereal, there are a LOT of people still using the motherboard probes, not only for cpu temps, but AIR temps in the case. But the air temp in one section of the case may be different to elsewehre. You may notice both I and ed, take air temps from about 1" above the cpu fan using an externel probe. He takes his CPU temps by drilling the heatsinks, while I just stick em near the side. Either way, we get better results.

A c/W of .60 sounds crazy for a FOP, and is wrong!

[JaY_III]

Spode (Jun 04, 2001 04:07 p.m.):
A c/W of .60 sounds crazy for a FOP, and is wrong!


Give me a CPU to fry and ANY CPU, and i bet i could get the c/w over .6

sure i may use a jelly sandwich in replace of thermal past, but i bet you i could get the c/w over .6

[Spewn]

The only thing I didn't like about the article was when he shot down the comment "I don't wanna spend $40 on a heatsink for a $60 cpu" If you think about it, that argument DOES make sense. Instead of buying a $60 cpu, you could buy a $100 cpu, use AMD's stock heatsink/fan combo(which is sufficient for a non-overclocked cpu), and probably get more out of that extra $40..other than that I thought the commentary was good.

[Thelemac]

Spewn (Jun 04, 2001 10:43 p.m.):
The only thing I didn't like about the article was when he shot down the comment "I don't wanna spend $40 on a heatsink for a $60 cpu" If you think about it, that argument DOES make sense. Instead of buying a $60 cpu, you could buy a $100 cpu, use AMD's stock heatsink/fan combo(which is sufficient for a non-overclocked cpu), and probably get more out of that extra $40..other than that I thought the commentary was good.

Except you couldn't, cause you'd then be stuck with very bad cooling. At which point you'd drop the forty buck for a cooler (assuming you actually wanted a good overclock)...of course, if you didn't want to overclock, you wouldn't really even be thinking about the hsf, cause you probably wouldn't have to worry about it.

I say it makes very good sence, especially cause when you spend that 40 bucks on a hsf, you'll probably get your $60 cpu much higher with overclocking than the $100 cpu without overclocking.

[Kryten]

hmmm just curious when did value for money come into over clocking.
Doesn't the addiction just take over and you spend what you need to get it to go faster. :)