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tbirdkiri
10-31-02, 12:12 AM
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=manufactory&catalog=343&manufactory=1028&description=&page=2

loook at all of em!

tbirdkiri
10-31-02, 12:15 AM
omg they have all sorts of tbreds!

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=manufactory&catalog=343&manufactory=1028&description=&page=1

Mr. $T$
10-31-02, 12:32 AM
WTF !? will that fit into a regular socket?


I bet there are 2200+ that did not make the cut. so thay demoted them as MOBILE

Dragon_Engineer2
10-31-02, 12:38 AM
Hmmm curious:)

Kaneda
10-31-02, 12:39 AM
i think there smaller, for laptops

{PMS}fishy
10-31-02, 12:42 AM
I think starfox has a t-bred 1600+ in his regular computer.

Kaneda
10-31-02, 12:42 AM
http://65.119.30.174/productimage/19-103-343-01.JPG

mobile chips

tbirdkiri
10-31-02, 12:56 AM
they are full fledged socket A, they just use less power... thats it..

so think about it like this, they probly overclock like mad. cause the are probly underrated higherend cpus

deathstar13
10-31-02, 12:57 AM
AMD Athlon XP 1700+ Throughbred /333 FSB Processor CPU 1700+/ 1.47GHz -OEM, AXDA1700DLT3C The Ultimate Digital Media Experience in an x86 Platform.Tailored for Microsoft® Windows® XP. Featuring QuantiSpeed Architecture for Rapid Execution of Applications. Tomorrow’s Technology Today.The Power of a Reliable Partner.
Specifications:
CPU: 1.47 GHz
Type: 1700 XP
Cache: 256K
BUS: 333MHz
Socket A (PGA)


hmm 333? :)
ok its a tbred.BUT its a airga ,this is a revision A.still is a tbred tho.and 166 fsb? i question that until i looky at the codes closer. had to blow it up to get this.

tbirdkiri
10-31-02, 01:00 AM
could we get someone to by one of the 1600+s mobiles? i would really love to see the performance on one..

specific
10-31-02, 01:07 AM
of course, these are -A t'breds. i've been wishing for these for a long time now. but these aren't the prices i was hoping for.

deathstar13
10-31-02, 01:17 AM
well im almost posative im correct in saying newegg is listing that 1700 at 333fsb is INCORRECT! the last letter of the code is "C" and that letter is designated by amd as 266.

its also airga stepping.looks like 0232 is the week.$75 ? a bit much id say.

Top Hat Theater
10-31-02, 01:38 AM
I've had one of these for nearly four months now. Got it from a guy who got it at a flea market of sorts. Runs on 1.55 Vcore. It's the 2100 in my main rig in fact. My complaint is that they run really hot.

~THT

John C.
10-31-02, 01:41 AM
Pic shows COOCC, C = Closed, O = Open, L3 bridges Multiplier Code would be only 6X, ee "Multiplier Code" article at http://www.beachlink.com/candjac/index.htm

Very interesting as it can't be 6X...so must be internally remapped...or a completely new code for Tbred mobiles??
John C.

Punkmasterflick
10-31-02, 01:54 AM
Look close at the l1 bridges... they don't have the laser cuts in them! The L5 and L3 brides don't either... Would make for an easy unlock :)

dropadrop
10-31-02, 02:03 AM
But seriously there must be some performance cut down in those mobile t-breds. If amd was able to make processors that only run on 1.5v, don't you think they'd try to make all of them run with as little voltage as possible? Amd has a temperature problem with all their chips, and suddenly they could make chips that run cooler, but only do it for laptops? I don't think so...

OC Detective
10-31-02, 02:54 AM
Originally posted by Mr. $T$
WTF !? will that fit into a regular socket?


I bet there are 2200+ that did not make the cut. so thay demoted them as MOBILE

the mobile athlons only go up to XP2000+, the MP to MP2200+, the other 2200+ is a regular T-bred.

OC Detective
10-31-02, 02:59 AM
Originally posted by dropadrop
But seriously there must be some performance cut down in those mobile t-breds. If amd was able to make processors that only run on 1.5v, don't you think they'd try to make all of them run with as little voltage as possible? Amd has a temperature problem with all their chips, and suddenly they could make chips that run cooler, but only do it for laptops? I don't think so...
Ah but they use "Power Now" Technology!! It allows the processor to run at different frequencies and voltages depending on CPU demand.

dropadrop
10-31-02, 04:24 AM
Ah but they use "Power Now" Technology!! It allows the processor to run at different frequencies and voltages depending on CPU demand.



Does it require support from the motherboard? This would basicly mean that under heavy load it would use the same amount of voltage and frequency as a normal processor? I don't really see any point in it then, 'cause the only times my processor get's really hot is under heavy load...

Emericana
10-31-02, 09:01 AM
mobile tbreds are tbreds that use less power and overclock like CRAZY. i saw a guy on a forum (dont remember if it was [H] or xtremesys) that had a mobile 1900 and got it to 2.2ghz w/ 1.9v... crazy stuff


i want one but they are so expensive!!!! they are more than pentium 4's!


EDIT: btw i am not sure if you guys knew this but ALL tbreds, are unlocked. you need a new kt400 board to unlock 2100+ and above (because they use high mults) but 2000+ and below are unlocked on KT333 boards.

that tbred 1700+ is looking very tempting....

{PMS}fishy
10-31-02, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by Emericana

that tbred 1700+ is looking very tempting....

You think that the 1700+ T-bred would o/c as well as a Mobile T-bred 1600+

Pinky
10-31-02, 09:12 AM
Wait. In time these prices will fall, and I'm talking like 30-60 days.

Now that these are out, I just might treat myself in few months to some new processor goodness ;)

Emericana
10-31-02, 09:58 AM
i bet that the mobile tbred will overclock better than a tbred 1700+..... a tbred 1700+ SHOULD be pretty easy to do 2ghz but not more than that... but the mobile 1600+ comes w/ stock a very very low default voltage (1.3v? 1.4v?) and i think if i remember starfox had his to like 2.2ghz which is almost a gigahertz overclock

deathstar13
10-31-02, 11:24 AM
well i for one am in no hurry to upgrade just yet.shoot with just mediocre equipment i have now i oc 200mhz with my tbred.i need better equipment wich is coming this week first.

another thing. these are airga tbreds.but the 2400 looks liek a nice upgrade. but im gonna hold out and wait and see how the 166fsb ones turn out and oc.the barton core isnt far behind and i expect to see it right after xmas.

this is the best news ive seen for amd! product! woohoooo buy em all guys lets keep amd above water!

srwven
10-31-02, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by tbirdkiri
omg they have all sorts of tbreds!

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=manufactory&catalog=343&manufactory=1028&description=&page=1
ROFL. You crack me up. You're like a little kid in a candy store!:D
Put the Visa down and slowly walk away.

{PMS}fishy
10-31-02, 12:17 PM
So you think that the 1700+ could go to 2.2ghz with water?

specific
10-31-02, 12:49 PM
looks like they fixed the 1700/333fsb typo.
notice how the steppings are blurred out on the mobile pics.

deathstar13
10-31-02, 02:16 PM
i dont think the 1700 will do 2.2.
its a revA. 2ghz max on h20 id guess.
now the mobile chips should be revB. they might.

Jawsome
10-31-02, 02:27 PM
hey check that out the moble 1900 runs at 200 fsb and the 1800 runs at 266.... that mean that the 1900 is underclocked?

Emericana
10-31-02, 02:43 PM
i think thats a typo cause they all run at 266

Umgawa
10-31-02, 03:03 PM
OK I can answer some of these questions.

All the lower speed Tbreds are 266fsb even the mobiles.
The mobile xps work in normal desktop motherboards if it supports tbreds.
They come factory unlocked all the way.
They perform the same as desktop XP Tbreds.
They use less power cause they run at lower vcores then desktop XP Tbreds(lower wattage does not mean they dont perform as good).
A 45watt mobile runs a 1.55 vcore(which is exactly what newegg is selling so if you up the vcore to a palamino vcore it would run the same wattage).
They overclock extremly well.
They are still Revision A.
Powernow features do not kick in when a mobile chip is in a desktop system.
Mobile xps are very high yield chips(think about it if the have to run lower vcores at same speed they have to be higher yields than desktop counterparts).

Hope that helps out ohh buy the way Im the guy with the mobile xp1900 TBred and it does 2.2mhz(12.5x172)at 1.80 volts on air with an alpha8045 and 38cfm delta fan with temps 32c idle and 43c load. I also get 14444 3dmarks with a ti4200 so that should tell you they perform the same as a destop cpu.

Also starfoxx has a mobile xp1600 TBred and it does almost 2.2 watercooled.:burn:

eli
10-31-02, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by Umgawa

Also starfoxx has a mobile xp1600 TBred and it does almost 2.2 watercooled.:burn:

Well, he HAD a 1600+. He sold it to someone at H. Makes me sad... Lots o people here would have paid top $ for that.

OC Detective
10-31-02, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by dropadrop


Does it require support from the motherboard? This would basicly mean that under heavy load it would use the same amount of voltage and frequency as a normal processor? I don't really see any point in it then, 'cause the only times my processor get's really hot is under heavy load...

Er but that is precisely why they are designed for laptops and not desktops! That why when not under load they use less power thus saving the battery.

OC Detective
10-31-02, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by Umgawa
OK I can answer some of these questions.

All the lower speed Tbreds are 266fsb even the mobiles.
The mobile xps work in normal desktop motherboards if it supports tbreds.
They come factory unlocked all the way.
They perform the same as desktop XP Tbreds.
They use less power cause they run at lower vcores then desktop XP Tbreds(lower wattage does not mean they dont perform as good).
A 45watt mobile runs a 1.55 vcore(which is exactly what newegg is selling so if you up the vcore to a palamino vcore it would run the same wattage).
They overclock extremly well.
They are still Revision A.
Powernow features do not kick in when a mobile chip is in a desktop system.
Mobile xps are very high yield chips(think about it if the have to run lower vcores at same speed they have to be higher yields than desktop counterparts).


Hope that helps out ohh buy the way Im the guy with the mobile xp1900 TBred and it does 2.2mhz(12.5x172)at 1.80 volts on air with an alpha8045 and 38cfm delta fan with temps 32c idle and 43c load. I also get 14444 3dmarks with a ti4200 so that should tell you they perform the same as a destop cpu.

Also starfoxx has a mobile xp1600 TBred and it does almost 2.2 watercooled.:burn:

All of this is correct except that the XP1900+ is available as both 200FSB and 266FSB.

Cut and paste between the quotes of the URL below its the second last questions on the FAQ's
"http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_1276_807^6308,00.html"

Mr. $T$
10-31-02, 08:17 PM
So can I buy one of these and put it in by dads 1gig duron laptop?

OC Detective
10-31-02, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by Mr. $T$
So can I buy one of these and put it in by dads 1gig duron laptop?
Yes if the Mobo supports it.

SLO_N8
10-31-02, 09:05 PM
Ordered 1 of the 1700+'s @ $75 just to play with. I got std shipping so it will be mid next week b4 I get to play with it, but I'll report back. Interested to c if it can top my 1600+ Pallie @ 2024MHz :)

tbirdkiri
10-31-02, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by srwven

ROFL. You crack me up. You're like a little kid in a candy store!:D
Put the Visa down and slowly walk away.

i am a kid, and that is a candy store pal... :D

i810 Forever
10-31-02, 09:18 PM
I've had to RMA 2 parts since my initial order arrived from NewEgg on the 12th. While I'm at it, would it be worth trading my 1600+ AGOIA Y 212 for a Mobile TBred? :D

Mr. $T$
11-01-02, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by OC Detective

Yes if the Mobo supports it.


I will tell him and mabey we can give me his Duron :cool: