I have the FASTEST air-cooled G4 ti4200 in the world!!

[Overclocker456]

I have a VisionTek G4 ti4200 64MB OEM. This is an original G4 ti 4200, don't confuse them with the 4200's with the 4600 PCB(those aren't real 4200's). The memory on the card is 3.6ns Hynix TSOP.

My card does 340/640. :burn: This is with a volt mod. The card is air-cooled and has ramsinks. I have never seen a card clocked higher than mine with air. If anyone has one that's fast than mine please do tell.. thanks for listening.

PS. 340/640 is the MAX STABLE overclock. Post only 100% stable and artifact free clock speeds.

Thanks KATO for the volt mod link ;)

[Cisco Kid]

good job!!!! , do not worry they willl be coming after ya hehehe for the crown.....

cisco kid

[Codeman05]

awesome job!!! Want kind of air cooling are u using on the GPU, I take it its not stock

[Overclocker456]

Originally posted by Cisco Kid
good job!!!! , do not worry they willl be coming after ya hehehe for the crown.....

cisco kid

thanks, I never got a volt mod to work so well till now. I'm HAPPY:p

[Overclocker456]

Originally posted by Codeman05
awesome job!!! Want kind of air cooling are u using on the GPU, I take it its not stock

Thanks. I'm using a OLD socket 370 cooler with a 25CFM low profile fan, I can't even hear it.

[Doofie27cp2]

man, i still have a geforce 2 mx 400. its toime to upgrade...

[Overclocker456]

I just ran Code Creatures and I got a score of 2197!!
Not bad at all for a 64MB card. Remember this benchmark NEEDS 128MB for video card memory to work optimally...

[bknight]

i tryed to downlod that code do you where did you get it

[Overclocker456]

Originally posted by bknight
i tryed to downlod that code do you where did you get it

From the site when it first came out..Last I heard the site didn't work for download anymore.. I dunno why..

[NeoGeo]

That's a really good oc on the TSOP ram. Is that your 24/7 setting? How is the ram being cooled? Beware of heat death, such an overclock can lead to a slow dying vcard, R.I.P Elsa GF2 ultra

Gainward GF3, no v-mods, stock cooling except for crystal orb & twin 80mm fan bracket
max 252 core, 583 ddr(TSOP 3.8ns hynix)--->had to change the krusty/bart value to get the slider that high!

[Chris]

Overclocker456 am i seeing right it says in ure sig 9700 R.I.P:eek: that must of hurt the wallet what did u do to kill the poor thing?:cool:

[maxima88]

What's your 3dmark score w/ that GF4?

[Kato]

Nice:D
How much voltage are you feeding the GPU/MEM now? And did you use a 5k VR to mod them?

Man, soon I just have to force myself to Vmod too, heehee:D

[Overclocker456]

Originally posted by NeoGeo
That's a really good oc on the TSOP ram. Is that your 24/7 setting? How is the ram being cooled? Beware of heat death, such an overclock can lead to a slow dying vcard, R.I.P Elsa GF2 ultra

Gainward GF3, no v-mods, stock cooling except for crystal orb & twin 80mm fan bracket
max 252 core, 583 ddr(TSOP 3.8ns hynix)--->had to change the krusty/bart value to get the slider that high!

Yeah it's my 24/7 setting or else I wouldn't post it.. Well the memory doesn't even get warm at all.. and with the volt mod it gets warm so I think it's ok.. My Radeon 8500 and G4 ti4600 got VERY hot on the memory, but not this one..!!;)

[Overclocker456]

Originally posted by Kato
Nice:D
How much voltage are you feeding the GPU/MEM now? And did you use a 5k VR to mod them?

Man, soon I just have to force myself to Vmod too, heehee:D

Nah I'm using a 1k ohm resistors.. I have no idea how much voltage it's getting, but I know it's not a lot more than stock. everything isn't running to hot.

[Overclocker456]

Originally posted by chris_4130
Overclocker456 am i seeing right it says in ure sig 9700 R.I.P:eek: that must of hurt the wallet what did u do to kill the poor thing?:cool:

YOu know that silver plate that cover the voltage chip on the back of the card?? Well I ripped it of my distake with the chips coming off with the plate.

[Overclocker456]

Originally posted by maxima88
What's your 3dmark score w/ that GF4?

14,258 3Dmarks 2001 SE (system not tweaked)

[Overclocker456]

It rather strange that my G4 ti4200 @ 340/640 scores are within 5% of my now dead ATI Radeon 9700 card. I'm shocked. of course that's up to 1024x768, then the gap widens, but still good. I'm starting to think my card should be able to beat a Radeon 9500PRO... what do you guys think? Since the Radeon 9500 pro will be 128-bit memory.. I don't see it having an edge over my card.

[Jerky]

man i don't know what to think. that's just insaine!
btw- how did you kill your 9700? ugh, i bet that hurt!

[Overclocker456]

Originally posted by Jerky
man i don't know what to think. that's just insaine!
btw- how did you kill your 9700? ugh, i bet that hurt!

you didn't read the post;) scroll up and you see the answer.

[NeoGeo]

Yes, faster than a Radeon 9500 pro, based on the current reviews, although once oc'd and a better driver is released, I think that the 9500 pro will beat such scores and a GF4 Ti4600.

[Overclocker456]

Originally posted by NeoGeo
Yes, faster than a Radeon 9500 pro, based on the current reviews, although onced oc'd and a better driver is released, I think that the 9500 pro will beat such scores and a GF4 Ti4600.

Yeah I think it will beat a G4 ti 4600.. but my card beats a ti4600 with ease...

[Deadphishy]

thats a good overclock. i think i'm going to have to pick up a crystal orb when i get my 9000 pro back, and put my newely made ramsinks on it. my overclock was heat restricted so i could only get 310/606

[Overclocker456]

Originally posted by Deadphishy
thats a good overclock. i think i'm going to have to pick up a crystal orb when i get my 9000 pro back, and put my newely made ramsinks on it. my overclock was heat restricted so i could only get 310/606

well if it was heat restricted I wouldn't count on a Crystal orb helping you much. It might look good, but it sucks as a good cooler. I wouldn't use it. I don't think the G4 cores are really sensitive to heat. My card did 320MHz stock cooling. They used a cheap glue on the core with this blue orb cooler which sucks, yet 320MHz was no problem. With my volt mod and cooling I got 340.

[asw7576]

Nice OC maannn.... I wish my card can be overclock that high. You mentioned the use of 1K Ohm for voltage modification. Do you use the same value (1K ohm) for both GPU and Memory?

Do you know that when you use 1K ohm for memory, you are running around 4.08V for DDR? phew.... I hope the memory module is okay with such high voltage. Normally the DDR voltage for VGA card is around 3.30V.

Check out this picture to measure the voltage ( and how to overclock GF4 Ti4200 cards):


http://www.maximumoc.com/img/hardware/4200_volt_mod/final_volt_mod_info.jpg

Or you may go to this thread for complete discussion on GF4 Ti4200 card modification:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1045

[Dirty_Punk]

my Abit Ti4200 with stock cooling did 335-340 (i don't know exactly because i hadn't tryed it a lot with aircooling :D ) for gpu & 650-660 for mem... this wihtout any mod ;)

now without mod i run it with watercooling & 80w pelt at 360-365/670-675

this week if i'll have enought time i'll voltmod it ;) :cool:

for now i have only 16k in 3dmark ;)

[Overclocker456]

Originally posted by asw7576
Nice OC maannn.... I wish my card can be overclock that high. You mentioned the use of 1K Ohm for voltage modification. Do you use the same value (1K ohm) for both GPU and Memory?

Do you know that when you use 1K ohm for memory, you are running around 4.08V for DDR? phew.... I hope the memory module is okay with such high voltage. Normally the DDR voltage for VGA card is around 3.30V.

Check out this picture to measure the voltage ( and how to overclock GF4 Ti4200 cards):


http://www.maximumoc.com/img/hardware/4200_volt_mod/final_volt_mod_info.jpg

Or you may go to this thread for complete discussion on GF4 Ti4200 card modification:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1045

Actually I believe my memory is running at 3.6v not 4.08v.. And my core is about 1.81v from 1.66v.. this haven't gotten checked with a volt meter.. but I know they re pretty close to these numbers, if the memory was running at 4.08v it would get very very hot, yet mine doesn't even get warm.. IF you think I'm going to connect all those lines just to check the voltage it's nuts, not to mention it looks terrible..there must be a easier way. And I get 91343Dmarks at 1600x1200 in 3dmark2001SE :p

[TheFrag]

Originally posted by Kato
Nice:D
How much voltage are you feeding the GPU/MEM now? And did you use a 5k VR to mod them?

Man, soon I just have to force myself to Vmod too, heehee:D

you mean that ur card is so high w/o a volt mod :eek:

[RangerJoe]

Originally posted by Dirty_Punk
my Abit Ti4200 with stock cooling did 335-340 (i don't know exactly because i hadn't tryed it a lot with aircooling :D ) for gpu & 650-660 for mem... this wihtout any mod ;)

now without mod i run it with watercooling & 80w pelt at 360-365/670-675

this week if i'll have enought time i'll voltmod it ;) :cool:

for now i have only 16k in 3dmark ;)

good lord!....and i thought my 9200 with a ti200 was good..nice oc/score man, thats prolly the highest one out there

[asw7576]

Does someone in this forum have problems with HOT memory modules? Especially with GF4 Ti4200 VGA cards? My Ti4200's DDR modules are running VERY HOT, so I have to add small HSF to tame the HOT modules. I don't voltage mod the DDR yet, but they are running very HOT especially when I close the casing.

The modules are Samsung "211" TC40.

Any comments? Thanks....

[surly]

I believe [N8] got about 357/695 on his Abit ti4200 with air

[SLO_N8]

My memory is cool with no ramsinks @ 4v(barely warm to touch) . My GPU(1.9v) is cooled by a 80MM aluminum heatsink & a 48cfm 80MM fan :)

surly got the clocks right....they're in sig. I think my current 3dmark is 14972. That is a nice card you have there, Overclocker456...it looks like these Albatron Turbo's are smokin the Abits now tho :) 700+ on the memory w/o vmod...sssssmokin ;)

[MoonWolf]

My VisionTek Ti 4200 will not go above 290/530 without hitting artifacts. WHY??? I cant stand it anymore... is it just my card or am I doing something wrong? Everyhting on the card is stock and my case temps dont usually rise above 35 degrees. I got 9555 3dMarks running it at 275/530 (stable) with my 1700+ at 1661 mhz. (151x11). I'm also having some PSU restrictions... I have a feeling im draining it... my 1700+ posts at 160 fsb and I can get into windows, but when I run 3dMark, even with the card at stock speed, it will lock up! I have not tried going higher than 275/530 since I got my AX-7 (artifacts at 290/550 with the stock AMD HSF). Now, the AX-7 is somehow diverting air and sending it right over the back of my video card... I think this will allow for a higher memory overclock (550 if im lucky) after I get a nice new PSU.

Back to my problem: Is it me or just my card (bad luck)?
-Wesley

[flixotide]

Originally posted by Overclocker456


Thanks. I'm using a OLD socket 370 cooler with a 25CFM low profile fan, I can't even hear it.

How did you manage to keep the profile on the board? and what temperatures are does the GPU go at?

Nice work though.. gotta hand it to ya..

[ReDeeMeR]

those cards wont hold long with these insane speeds. memory in particular.

[SLO_N8]

ReDeeMeR,

What makes you say that? The fact that they costed $140? :)

[asw7576]

moonwolf, maybe you need new power supply? coz your DDR speed "530" is not good, and the VGA's DDR speed depends on 3.3V lines. I don't know how powerfull your current PSU, but anything less than 350watts probably is not enough to power up CPU more than 2GHz.

Maybe you should check your 3.3V and 5V lines.

For example, my 400 watts generic PSU gives these numbers:

3.3V = 3.31 idle ........ 3.28 under loads
5.0V = 5.21 idle ........ 4.95 under loads
12V = 12.11 idle ...... 11.89 under loads

The best IF you can invest in 430+ watts PSU for today and tommorrow investments.

[MoonWolf]

I intend to do that. I currently have an Enhance 350w (my full system specs are in my sig)... it puts out 220w combined on the 3.3v and 5v lines... my idle rails drop a little while I watch in bios.

Why would the DDR on the GF4 give me artifacts at speeds higher than 530... I mean... I don't see what that has to do with my power supply...

-Wesley

[Ven0m]

hmm, my XFX Ge 4 Ti 4200, 128 megs of Samsung 4ns ram (it was bought when only Ge4 4200 appeared, so RAM isn't that impressive, I wish I had one of these new XFX on ~3.3 ns ram) :
250/446 @ 320/620, no artifacts (but turned to 310/620 later as I got"injured" touching backside of card - was too hot)

What's funny?
No vmods, stock (crappy, almost no airflow) cooling, no heatsinks on ram. And what power supply? Crappy 300Watts no-name :)
This is OC :D

Why power supply matters? When I had my older 300Watt PSU, on lower OC - 300/600, according to ASUS probe, running codecreatures benchmark, my 3.3V line used to drop <2.8V (LOL).
But happily my PSU died, they replaced it with "brand new 300" and I have 20/20 more, with heavy 3.3V drop, but not so terrible :)

What was uber-hot:
-GPU
-RAM
-these "copper coils"
-mosfet
-capacitors
-whole card was uber-hot

So I'm preparing for all-card waterblock, maybe with TEC. My ram looks like it could handle 650 or more, but I rather won't make it run 700 :) As far, I haven't considered Vmods.

[RangerJoe]

you do realize this thread is over a year old...dont you?

[R4z0r4mu5 Pr|m3]

:D

[BIB]

My Abit Siluro Ti4200 will do 312/614 stable on air. But i did not do a volt mod and i dont have ramsinks.
so I dont know i might be able to come pretty close or even beat you.

[Overclocker550]

Originally posted by maxima88
What's your 3dmark score w/ that GF4?


my guess would be like 17k with his 3.6GHz p4 :D


"Man, soon I just have to force myself to Vmod too, heehee"

340/745 beats his ti4200 by alot on the ram, 105MHz :eek:


"It rather strange that my G4 ti4200 @ 340/640 scores are within 5% of my now dead ATI Radeon 9700 card."


wow a 9700 pro should be more, maybe because you couldnt get a good overclock outta her? I know if both stock the 9700 pro is like 3k faster


"Back to my problem: Is it me or just my card (bad luck)?"


bad luck, but then I had two of the 128mb ones oc no higher than 525 on the ram. Id avoid those. 128mb cards have crappy ram

[Ven0m]

My Ge4 is old too, but it really rox for me (in fact I used "Search buttom and "misread" 2002 to be 2003) :).
Today I had new OC:

:D 340/620 :D
As always, stock cooling, no RAM heatsinks, no Vmods.
According to MBM5, 3.3V line dropped to 3.16V and 5V to 4.74V. So I blame my PSU for that this RAM wasn't stable 10mhz higher. I just have to go water or water+TEC with other PSU. My VGA screams "OC me" :]

If only I had 3.3ns ram on it, mmmmm. I'd definietly try to go 750Mhz :)


Overclocker550 - to your question: I don't like ATi too much, but I'd rather consider rad9700 even non-pro faster than heavily OCed Ge4 4200. Maybe if someone managed to run it around 400/700, discussion would be other, but I don't know such case.

[RangerJoe]

320/725 on stock cooling for me is about the highest i have gone....

once im not broke, im going to get an SK-6 or something for the GPU....

[Ven0m]

Originally posted by RangerJoe
320/725 on stock cooling for me is about the highest i have gone....

once im not broke, im going to get an SK-6 or something for the GPU....

But you have new version with that fast mem - cheater :)
nice card

[RangerJoe]

no, i bought mine last year. i have BGA ram, but it is an albatron turbo. they overclock like crazy

[Overclocker456]

It's nice to see my year old thread back in action..lol I almost forgot I even did have the geforce card... After Radeon 9700 PRO's broke into the Scene, ATI all the way...

[krakhead]

right now im running my Albatron Ti4200 (3.3 ns BGA Ram) @ 261 core/ 621 mem. with stock cooling on the card. soon as i get some free time ill have to see how much faster i can go with it.

[ipppe]

Ive reached 312/342 with my asus ti4200... Stock cooling... NO modding... Rock stable... But since my windows ****ed up and my drivers got messed up i cant reach that speed no more... my highest oc now with 52.70 drivers is 310/330 and running stable... So im guessing a volt mod and some replacement to my stock cooling might just beat your oc =) ??

[Overclocker456]

Originally posted by ipppe
Ive reached 312/342 with my asus ti4200... Stock cooling... NO modding... Rock stable... But since my windows ****ed up and my drivers got messed up i cant reach that speed no more... my highest oc now with 52.70 drivers is 310/330 and running stable... So im guessing a volt mod and some replacement to my stock cooling might just beat your oc =) ??

I wish you the best... but getting 310 stock isn't that's great.. I got 320 stock I think..

[Overclocker550]

I feel left out with 290/600 clocks and I went thru 5 ti4200s for that, man I need to buy one thatll oc like a champ

[krakhead]

well, my ti-4200 will only do 281/625 with stock cooling. i think its time for diferent cooling and a volt mod