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{PMS}fishy
11-05-02, 01:22 PM
http://www.theforumisdown.com/uploadfiles/1102/T-bred.jpg

AIRGA 0232

Water Cooled -- Maze 2 -- Heatcore -- 35c Load -- 2.2v

Epox 8KHA+ 9/03/02 BETA BIOS

I have had this thing for 5 mins. Ill see how far it can really go. Shooting for 2100mhz.

SLO_N8
11-05-02, 02:05 PM
Let us know :)

I got one waitin @ fedex for me ;)

Busy night ahead tho, dunno if i'll even get it tonight let alone play w/ it :D

Pinky
11-05-02, 02:12 PM
Awesome!!!!!!!

Thank you so very much for PM'ing me on this! Great news for many 8kha+ owners :)

Do you know if you have an earlier or later revision 8kha+ board? According to the Epox site it needs to be v.2 or higher to work well...

{PMS}fishy
11-05-02, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by Pinky
Awesome!!!!!!!

Thank you so very much for PM'ing me on this! Great news for many 8kha+ owners :)

Do you know if you have an earlier or later revision 8kha+ board? According to the Epox site it needs to be v.2 or higher to work well...

Revision 2.0

Pinky
11-05-02, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by {PMS}fishy


Revision 2.0

Now I need to go home and verify I have that revision, otherwise I'm SOL until my next major system overhaul (watercooling, the works :) ).

{PMS}fishy
11-05-02, 02:48 PM
Oh and one more thing that I would like to add. It came unlocked, full multiplier control.

SLO_N8
11-05-02, 05:45 PM
Got mine in...no time to play tonight tho :(

http://www.theforumisdown.com/uploadfiles/1102/1700TBRED.jpg

Pinky
11-05-02, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by {PMS}fishy
Oh and one more thing that I would like to add. It came unlocked, full multiplier control.

[wipes drool from chin]

Just checked and I have a revision 2.0 also :D

Dark Disciple
11-05-02, 05:51 PM
Wow, unlocked. That's sooo wrong !!! Good luck and post it up plz.

iceman2g
11-05-02, 08:37 PM
Where'd you guys buy these chips?

{PMS}fishy
11-05-02, 08:44 PM
I got mine at Newegg I was hopping for a week 40. You do have to figure that these are going to be the worst T-Bred A chips out.

none1
11-06-02, 12:58 AM
HELP!

I got a tbred 1700 AND a mobile 1600 tbred here. Pretend I'm 2 years old, and tell me how to attach pictures .... I can't figure it out. I go to the "attach file" click browse, enter my file.

THEN WHAT? I hit preview, NO PIC. I also need to attach two images. My images are like 24k, *.jpg, and under 300X300.

WTF?

Thanks

specific
11-06-02, 01:11 AM
ok

i'm jealous!

gotta have one!

not now, but right now.

maxima88
11-06-02, 04:59 AM
Nice o/c Fishy.

Now push her til you get to 2.1GHz.

Soul_keeper
11-06-02, 05:37 AM
geez 2.2volts !!!:mad: :mad: :(
prob won't live long
although the temp is still lookin good :beer:

SLO_N8
11-06-02, 06:54 AM
I'm sure it can take the volts :)

What speed did ya end up max'n out @, {PMS}fishy?

I think I'll get to test mine tonight :D

{PMS}fishy
11-06-02, 10:18 AM
I dropped the voltage to 2v and Im running at 1900mhz. Ill push it harder later. I was able to hit 2013 before.

Pinky
11-06-02, 10:54 AM
That voltage is a tad high for my taste... I need something that will run in the 2ghz range at 1.85 volts on air before I consider buying... anything less and it just wouldn't be worth the extra 200mhz...

Maybe one sold at a higher clock speed will OC better (as it's more likely to have a core capable of running higher since its been tested to run higher at default voltage).

(found that newegg actually has throughbred processors at lower speeds listed, not necessarily mobiles. I think you were right in that these are probably the a$$ end of the thoroughbred cores made, leftovers revision "A" chips)

SLO_N8
11-06-02, 12:35 PM
I run my chip @ 2.2v to stabilize 2024MHz & if that's what it takes to get above it w/ the Tbred, I'll feed it that, as long as the temps stay sane ;)

If it dies from the voltage, then I'll believe that the Tbred's can't handle that kinda voltage :D

{PMS}fishy
11-06-02, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by none1
HELP!

I got a tbred 1700 AND a mobile 1600 tbred here. Pretend I'm 2 years old, and tell me how to attach pictures .... I can't figure it out. I go to the "attach file" click browse, enter my file.

THEN WHAT? I hit preview, NO PIC. I also need to attach two images. My images are like 24k, *.jpg, and under 300X300.

WTF?

Thanks

Don't hit preview. You can only attach one picture per post. You have it right. If you want a place to host pictures www.theforumisdown.com and use Tags

hallen
11-06-02, 03:11 PM
My cpu arrived today.

AXDA1700DLT3C
AIRGA0232MPMW
9306708260160

1.5v default keeps me in the high 1700's @ 1.7v. Unlocking problem solved. Now it looks like L11 voltage bridges need work but my old Asus boards have jumpers for voltage so 1.85v here I come.:D

At 1.7v, though, it looks like it will outperform most Palominos.

Harvey

edit: Looks like you can cut one bridge and make default 1.825v

1.500v is - connect cut cut cut connect

1.825v is - cut cut cut cut connect

SLO_N8
11-06-02, 04:31 PM
I max'd out @ 2040MHz for 3DMark stability. I was hoping for a little more, but not bad at all.

My chip seems to run about 10c hotter than my 1600+ Palomino did...amazing to me that u got 35c load temps @ 2.2v w/ this thing, fishy.

The chip does indeed come factory unlocked up to 12.5 mult...which is pretty darn nice.

Now I'm not sure which chip to run.....the cooler-running Palomino @ 2024MHz....or the hotter-runnin Tbred @ 2040MHz :)

Emericana
11-06-02, 06:45 PM
aww man 14mhz is gonna give you 300 more 3dmark points!!!!!!

jk obviously

run your agoia y

Pinky
11-06-02, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by hallen
Harvey

edit: Looks like you can cut one bridge and make default 1.825v

1.500v is - connect cut cut cut connect

1.825v is - cut cut cut cut connect

Hey Harvey! :)

I'm still running that old 8kha+ of yours and that stick of memory (duron and tbird have long since been moved to new homes in other boxes)...

I don't feel comfortable cutting bridges on these things, dremel or not... is there a sure fire way to get those bridges cut to minimize the potential harm?

(yes, I'm considering getting an 1800, 1900, or even 2000 tbred if they're ever released... I probably will not get the 1700 as it doesn't seem to be getting to 2ghz without massive voltage)

hallen
11-06-02, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by Pinky



I don't feel comfortable cutting bridges on these things, dremel or not... is there a sure fire way to get those bridges cut to minimize the potential harm?

I saw a post where you send a shot of voltage through the two contacts to blow the fuse.



(yes, I'm considering getting an 1800, 1900, or even 2000 tbred if they're ever released... I probably will not get the 1700 as it doesn't seem to be getting to 2ghz without massive voltage)

There should be an 1800+ T-bred "B" coming along.

http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1174556&highlight=speck#post1174556

I glad you like the 8KHA+. I sold your Celeron to Skyhook. You can have the board back if you want.:)

I'm running the T-bred 1700+ right now on an 8KHA+ @ 1.7v. It's nice but it wants to go higher.:)

Harvey

Pinky
11-07-02, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by hallen
You can have the board back if you want.:)[/B]

How high can you get it stable at 1.7v?? I'll assume the highest the 8kha+ will go (without modding or cutting the contact on the cpu) is 1.7v with the tbred core, right?

I remember reading that you could use a 9v battery to short the fuse, forgot about that trick :).

I think that VH6-T would make for a good folding board in someone's rig... I'm sure someone could use it.

hallen
11-07-02, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by Pinky


How high can you get it stable at 1.7v?? I'll assume the highest the 8kha+ will go (without modding or cutting the contact on the cpu) is 1.7v with the tbred core, right?


11.0 X 158 = 1758 @ 1.7v. I never fine tuned it. I pulled off an XP1600+ that had been running @ 158fsb and tried 11.0 x 158 first then tried 11.5 X 158 = 1817 and couldn't get a post so it's somewhere in between @ 1.7v. The 8KHA+ gives me 0.2v range 1.5v - 1.7v.


I think that VH6-T would make for a good folding board in someone's rig... I'm sure someone could use it.

Good idea. Let me give the crunchers first crack. Big race going on.:)

Pinky
11-07-02, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by hallen
11.0 X 158 = 1758 @ 1.7v. I never fine tuned it. I pulled off an XP1600+ that had been running @ 158fsb and tried 11.0 x 158 first then tried 11.5 X 158 = 1817 and couldn't get a post so it's somewhere in between @ 1.7v. The 8KHA+ gives me 0.2v range 1.5v - 1.7v.

Looks like I'll be jimmy-rigging a battery to short that bridge ;)