PICS. HOOKED UP NEW WATERCOOLING...TEMPS SAME AS WAS ON AIR

[GERRY136]

my temps havent changed going from air to water!
radiator/12x7x2 w/2 80mm and 1 server fan
1/2 lines
150gph little giant submersible
Prestone anti rust and water pump lubricant 10%

in pics below u can see i had to use a c-clamp and metal plate at back of slot, but she is really tight and saw no light between block and cold plate.
cant find a place to get water wetter in my town and did not use distilled water. but my temps are about 20c higher than they shouldbe i think. room temp is 21c. any ideas anyone?
you can see a slight kink in one of the hoses but the water is flowing quite well.
coloring is basic food coloring.
also, applied nice, even, thin layer of ac2

[GERRY136]

pic

[GERRY136]

DD copper block and coolant are both cool to the touch.

[GERRY136]

pic

[Tacoman667]

Have you tried a higher rated gph pump? My theory is that the more water running through the block keeps it cooler and in turn, keeps the CPU cooler. I am running an Eheim 1250 315gph pump and about 3 feet of hose and get damn near room temp (ambient). Try a more powerful pump and see if that helps. You can get a Daneer MagDrive 700 at any local pet store and make sure to keep the reciept in case this doesn't work. But I am confident that this is what's holding you back.

[GERRY136]

cool thanx!
im leaving in a few to g gt a nw one and ill post the results in a couple hours.

[Colin]

The Mag 7 is what worked best for me with the three Danger Den blocks I have.

[GERRY136]

thanx guys,
i went to a couple landscaping places but all were closed for the holiday.
ill try it again tomorrow.
shes stable at 850mhz and 1.95 volts / load 44c

[Fjeld]

Hmm. Something is definately wrong there! Take a look at my pic, running Athl.T-b1133@1507, max temp 43degreesC at full load. 29degrees idle, room temp 21,8.
Temp-transfer problems from CPU to waterblock??
Just guessing...

[Richard]

Very nicely done.

Fjeld (Jul 04, 2001 05:09 p.m.):
Hmm. Something is definately wrong there! Take a look at my pic, running Athl.T-b1133@1507, max temp 43degreesC at full load. 29degrees idle, room temp 21,8.
Temp-transfer problems from CPU to waterblock??
Just guessing...

[Fjeld]

Richard999 (Jul 04, 2001 05:28 p.m.):
Very nicely done.

Fjeld (Jul 04, 2001 05:09 p.m.):
Hmm. Something is definately wrong there! Take a look at my pic, running Athl.T-b1133@1507, max temp 43degreesC at full load. 29degrees idle, room temp 21,8.
Temp-transfer problems from CPU to waterblock??
Just guessing...

Thanks :)
Not finished yet, have to modify / reduce the water-reservoir, and the cables etc in the back of the case! Waiting for a new 12v DC relay..
......btw, my best result, take a look at the screenshot...

[Warlord2]

Fjeld thats a very nice setup up got there

how much cfm is your fan pushing through your radiator



I got a dd cube, maze2 but only have a radioshack fan on the cube and am getting terrable temps
idle 44c and load 50c not oc 5% anti and 95% distelled water 350gph pump
water is warm so I think I just need a better fan.

[Tacoman667]

I have 1 YS-Tech 131cfm 120mm pushing through my DD cube and one on the other side sucking it out. So I think it's safe to assume that I have roughly 131cfm through my cube.

[Fjeld]

Warlord2 (Jul 04, 2001 05:59 p.m.):
Fjeld thats a very nice setup up got there

how much cfm is your fan pushing through your radiator
Thanks Warlord2 :)
In fact, I don´t have any idea about cfm for the fan :(
But I picked it from an old needleprinter-noisereducing housing. It´s a German-produced slow-turning low-noise fan, and I´m quite happy with it :) Trough the weekend, I´m going to pick the things apart, to reduce the height of the water reservoir, and then I´ll take notes about the type of fan etc.
Please E-mail me if I forgot to tell you!!
Regards
filefjeld@sensewave.com



I got a dd cube, maze2 but only have a radioshack fan on the cube and am getting terrable temps
idle 44c and load 50c not oc 5% anti and 95% distelled water 350gph pump
water is warm so I think I just need a better fan.

[GERRY136]

thats a great lookin setup!

yah i was thinkin my block to cold plate connection migt be failing but ill put the new pump on tomorrow and then ill know for sure.
thanx all for th much needed help :)



p.s. the fact that im runnin the coolant thru 7 feet of 1/2 inch hose is probably not helpin the little 150gph pump lol.

[Tacoman667]

OMG what do you need that much hose for?????

[GERRY136]

lolol
i dont know why i wanted to set the reservoir on te shelf but its comin down after i finish these couple beers!
ill eliminate 4 1/2 feet after doin this so it might help some.

ill eventually have a larger case but for now this is my first attempt at water coolin plusi want to get this water temp right so i can install the sweet parts below!!!!!!!

[mudguts]

Hey Gerry....try to find some thick walled hose and it will stop the kinking. I had the same problem at first with my setup..although I use 3/8 size.

[GERRY136]

hey great idea, ill pick up a piece today when i get my new pump.

[Mord-Sith]

If you have a Jockos Autoparts in town they should have water wetter if not they can get it. I would also check Napa, and Advanced Auto Parts.

[Ridenow]

One, Gerry136, move that reservoir down. I do not think you need a new pump, just bring it down to earth! Danger Den and Autozone both carry Water Wetter, it should not be hard to find.
Do you have the input to the radiator on the bottom, so it is filled, or on the top so it just runs though? I notice that you have the heater core type, so it should not make that much difference.

[inertia]

Dude, don't use food coloring in your water. That's baaad.

Wrap your tubes with electrical tape will also help with getting kinky.

One big 120mm might move more air than two 80mm's.

Where are you taking the temp from? If it's from the on-board thermister, even if you do have a effect on the core temp it might not show up so much on an in-socket thermistor. The air pocket behind the CPU is not the first path heat will take to leave the core. In fact, it's pretty far down the list.

[GERRY136]

NOTE TO SELF: using c-clamp to tighten waterblock to cpu is BAAAAD.

yes i finally have my first keychain lol.
heard that adorable little snapping sound as i cranked down on c-clamp!
thanx for all the help guys but ive got to go to indianapolis today to find another slot-a athlon.
then i will hook up new 500gph Little Giant i bought yesterday.

god i love this stuff man!!!!!!!

TO BE CONTINUED... :D

[GERRY136]

ok just picked up a used 700 slot-a athlon and am runnin it stock right now with hsf.

re: im taking temps with thermometer touching cpu back.
i also moved the reservoir down which eliminated almost 3 feet of hose.
will try reinstalling water cooling tonight.

[*spazzed*]

GERRY136 (Jul 06, 2001 08:49 a.m.):
NOTE TO SELF: using c-clamp to tighten waterblock to cpu is BAAAAD.

yes i finally have my first keychain lol.
heard that adorable little snapping sound as i cranked down on c-clamp!
thanx for all the help guys but ive got to go to indianapolis today to find another slot-a athlon.
then i will hook up new 500gph Little Giant i bought yesterday.

god i love this stuff man!!!!!!!

TO BE CONTINUED... :D

what are you going to use in place of that old c-clamp? Now that you have a bit more experience. You could possible still use a c-clamp if you grind it down abit to lighten it up abit, or you can try using abit of superglue and ASll paste. Don't forget that once you glue it down, it's goin to be a pain in the bum to get off again :)

[GERRY136]

i honestly have no idea lol. i might try the clamp again.
i dont really want to glue or epoxy the block to the cold plate cause i want to install my new massive psu with my 156 watt pelt. so i hope someone on these forums knows of a good way to attach them all cause there arent any options ive seen to use.

[DrAllcome]

Hello.

I'm new to this watercooling stuff, and the system is running for a few days now. It's made of:

Senfu water block
Senfu radiator (80mm twin-fan version)
Eheim in-line pump (1048 model, 10liter/min spec rate)
All the tubing has inside 4mm diameter (which is reducing overall pressure)

Here are the temps I read:

Ambient: 27.5ºC
Water (small closed reservoir): 29ºC
CPU Temp: 49~50ºC (under full load for several hours)

The CPU Temp is being read by the motherboard sensor (Abit KT7A). I think these CPU temperature values are a bit high, but the ambient temperature I get is not what you could call low... ;\

CPU is an Athlon Tbird 1.2 (100MHz FSB), running at 1360, 1.90V core.
Water throughout the circuit is distilled water, no other substance added yet.

Would the so-called "Water Wetter" give better temperature results? What are the advantages of using this additive?
Is there a chance that the clip used to hold the water block on the CPU is not making enough pressure? I read it somewhere...
Any help or suggestions?

P.S. Except for the pump (which is not much different anyway), photos of my water cooling system are here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q2/010528/index.html
(I believe most of you already know this article)

Thanks!

[GERRY136]

ok i decided to make a hold down plate like the ones dd uses.
i am goin to make it out of the the thickest plexiglass ican find with 4 small bolts.
ill post the results tomorrow.
thanx again everyone!

[Zuck Gou :)]

Rock on Slot-A Athlons!

:)

[GERRY136]

lol

[DrAllcome]

Continuing my last post, here are the pics...

1 of 3: full system view

[DrAllcome]

2 of 3: water block

[DrAllcome]

3 of 3: pump, radiator, water "bottle"

A fan is missing on the top of the water block, which can help if the pump fails.
Dropping room temp. from 27.5ºC to 25ºC reduces CPU Temp to ~44ºC (from the previous 49~50ºC)

[GERRY136]

turns out that the 50.00 used 700 athlon i bought has an 800 core, hehe.
tested it out with my old hsf and this cpu runs perfect. (had to drive 90 miles lol)
just finished reworking the new "clamp" for water block and am bench testing it overnight tonight.
ill post pics and results tomorrow evning.

thanx all!

[GERRY136]

started new thread in cooling.