T-breda's=hot

[OnDborder]

Geez this is a warm chip.
Just installed it, at idle 44c@1.55 vcore, 180x9.5
Running SETI, 49c..
Room temp, 78f..
Board temp, 28c..

[youthemandan]

All 8k3a's are reading high temps with the tbreds. I wouldn't worry too much about it

[OnDborder]

I guess this is what this thread is about..Duh...http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=108670

So the temp is about 8-10degrees too high???

[youthemandan]

I asked the epox tech so we will get our answer soon

[OnDborder]

thanks

[Pinky]

10+C too high in my guestimation.

[subconcept]

Yeah my 2200+ t-bred A is 40 c at full load so its probably off.

[youthemandan]

I doub that. It sounds about right. I wouldn't complain about that temp

[RnPgrosz]

Originally posted by Pinky
10+C too high in my guestimation.

Yep, thats about right. In some cases people have reported differences(between On-die and insocket thermistor) as large as 15C, usually at load.


And remember, On-die is not "too high." Its actually the insocket thermistor which is reporting temps inaccurately, the On-die temps are perfectly accurate as they read right from the cpu and consequently they are higher.

[Jon]

Burning in an 1800@1.84 and 1.7V and only 36.5C under load. Runs nearly 15C cooler than the 1700 Paly @ 1.71 I had in there.

Seems a bit warm to me but the room temp you have is warmer than mine too.

[OnDborder]

Originally posted by RnPgrosz


Yep, thats about right. In some cases people have reported differences(between On-die and insocket thermistor) as large as 15C, usually at load.


And remember, On-die is not "too high." Its actually the insocket thermistor which is reporting temps inaccurately, the On-die temps are perfectly accurate as they read right from the cpu and consequently they are higher.

Ya, I realize that the temp read from the On-die is going to be higher. Going from a t-bird cpu(insocket) to a XP(on-die) the temp increase is explainable by the location of the device that is doing the reading of the temperature.
But the temperature is taken by the same device, the on-die, on both the XP and the t-bred.
My temp is, at the moment, 8 degress higher with this t-bred than my XP at the same fsb and multiplier..With less voltage, 1.550.

I hope it's just a glitch with the 8k3a's reading the t-breds temp..

[OnDborder]

Jon, what motherboard are using?

Youthemandan, I saw your post on one of the other forums. What's up with them? I know they have a couple of Epox Tech's that frequent that board, they aren't willing to give you a reply? Bummer..

[Pinky]

I've had the exact opposite experience, my tbred runs cooler at same mhz (mostly 'cause it needs much less voltage to run at 1800mhz, the highest my AGOIA would run).

[OnDborder]

Originally posted by Pinky
I've had the exact opposite experience, my tbred runs cooler at same mhz (mostly 'cause it needs much less voltage to run at 1800mhz, the highest my AGOIA would run).


Maybe it's the bios? What bios are you running? At the moment I'm doin' the 2b01's.

[packratbob]

yup same thing here i knocked off abt 7 degs compared to my old old xp1800 agoia both at 2000 ghz.

[Pinky]

Originally posted by OnDborder



Maybe it's the bios? What bios are you running? At the moment I'm doin' the 2b01's.

Same bios. The bios reads the on-die temps, so it's really 10-15C cooler than the temp reading. MBM is displaying a 36C case temp and 60C cpu temp on my system right now, which translates to 48C in my brain.

[OnDborder]

Well What the heck is up with this???
I try this chip on another 8k3a+ board.. I think if I get the same temps on the alternate board, I'll be calling Newegg and emailing Amd about this.


Whoa, did you say 60c on your cpu? Ok, mine reads 46c idle at room temp around 82, give or take a degree or two..


Check this out..http://www.aoaforums.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=11467

[OnDborder]

Originally posted by packratbob
yup same thing here i knocked off abt 7 degs compared to my old old xp1800 agoia both at 2000 ghz.

Ya but you are running on a different board,8kha+. But I guess that might give us a clue that there is a definite temp "issue" with the tbreds and 8k3a's.

[OnDborder]

Any news on this?
I "resat" the tbred again, with the same results. 50c under seti. Room temp at 81. 1.55 vcore 185x9.5

[youthemandan]

No word yet i guess the Epox tech are gone for the weekend. I am gonna try the 2626 bios and see if that helps any

[youthemandan]

I went back to 2626 and this is what i get from winbond2 diode.

[OnDborder]

From what I understand, the 2626 bios read from the in-socket diode..not the on-die. That's why it is so low.

Oh, so that's why no replies from the "Epox Tech" or others. I guess we'll have to "bump" it up on Monday.

[youthemandan]

Well i guess i should link to the thread that we are talking about. http://www.aoaforums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11467

[Namagomi]

sure, they are hot, but they can take plenty of heat and still be stable. My 2200@2.0gig runs fine at 56c max load

[OnDborder]

Dang, 1.85 vcore? Default is 1.5.. Wow.
Man if I would to run at 1.85 my temps would be in the 60's..
At the moment my temp is 48c/load@1.55@ room temp of 77f.

[OnDborder]

Youthemandan, s'up.
Haven't given up ??

[cartola]

OnDborder,

I also have a 8k3a+ and just replaced my 1700+ (Agoia) with a 1700+ Tbred (AIUGA) and I got a raise in the temperature. It´s too soon to say something, because today it is hotter than usual. My system temperature is 2ºC higher than normal and this reflects in a increase of 3-4ºC in the CPU temperature. Another thing is that I just applied AS3, so I better wait the 72 hours to see.
One funny thing is that the increase was just in the idle temperature, the full one (cpuburn) is the same thing.

[youthemandan]

I went to the 8rda+ and i love it. Runnin at 224 fsb. This board is great

[OnDborder]

Ahhh, man..
You read too many of those other posts.. You bought into their hype.. :)

Just kiddin'.. Glad you like the board.. I guess that's one way to get rid of that bug..

I think if I were to go to the nvidia chip board I'd go for that Abit.. Or maybe Epox...I don't know, got to get through Christmas first..

[hkgonra]

Originally posted by OnDborder
Well What the heck is up with this???
I try this chip on another 8k3a+ board.. I think if I get the same temps on the alternate board, I'll be calling Newegg and emailing Amd about this.


Whoa, did you say 60c on your cpu? Ok, mine reads 46c idle at room temp around 82, give or take a degree or two..


Check this out..http://www.aoaforums.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=11467

Room temp 82 ?!?

That is HOT !!!!!!

How are you not burning up ?

Mine is 68-71 year round.

[youthemandan]

Get the 8rda the abit doesn't have 4 mounting holes for wb's and the swifty. Also has barely any ocing features. I think even asus has more. The epox officially does have a pci lock and i love it!!!

[OnDborder]

Originally posted by hkgonra


Room temp 82 ?!?

That is HOT !!!!!!

How are you not burning up ?

Mine is 68-71 year round.



I don't know..
That's what my little digital thermometer says.
Must be nice to be that "cooool".. :)