View Full Version : Asylum Geforce 4 ti 4200 128mb---not bad!
lightbulb8817
11-30-02, 01:37 AM
3dmark (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5192978)
I worked 8 hrs for that score :D I only bought the card 18 hours before I got that score.
Cisco Kid
11-30-02, 01:41 AM
your p4 at 2610 helped out a bit I'd say nice score mang!!!
cisco kid
lightbulb8817
11-30-02, 01:47 AM
http://users.lvcm.com/lightbulb8817/13213.jpg
:D
WeaponX
11-30-02, 06:05 AM
Did you get those speeds with stock cooling? I noticed that the video card didn't come with RAMsinks, which dissapointed me. I haven't tried to oc the memory much because of this fact. I'm thinking about cutting up some Thermaltake Heatsinks and slappin them onto the memory chips, and after that is done I will attempt to overclock the memory.
lightbulb8817
11-30-02, 09:44 AM
Stock cooling :D
I didn't see any artifacts at all, but I did see black streaks across the screen couple times every 3 seconds when the ram is @ 588. If I set the ram @ 587, it runs perfectly.
lightbulb8817
12-01-02, 10:10 PM
I do have a side case fan blowing on it though:
http://users.lvcm.com/lightbulb8817/vidfan.jpg
And I'm making some final touches to my new pci blower:
http://users.lvcm.com/lightbulb8817/pciblower.jpg
:D :D :D
shill82
12-02-02, 08:02 PM
how did you attach the fan like that? I want to do the same to my card but the way i had it was somewhat dangerous.
lightbulb8817
12-02-02, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by shill82
how did you attach the fan like that? I want to do the same to my card but the way i had it was somewhat dangerous.
My dad used a Jigsaw to cut the 80mm hole. He also cut 4 holes for the screws to screw into.
The problem I had was that the fan was pulling the card down to about a 30 degree angle.
Couple of applications of epoxy solved that :D
asw7576
12-02-02, 11:18 PM
OMG..... 13,200+ ????
Is this your recipe?
P4 1.8a at 2.615 with Thermaltake Volcano 7+
Asus p4s533
Corsair pc3200 cas2.5 @DDR 435 cas2-4-4-7-2T 4:6 divider 2.7vdimm
What is GPU and VGA memory speed use?
I will set the memory timings similar to yours maannn... I've been in the dark with 11,550 and still trying.
lightbulb8817
12-03-02, 08:28 AM
This is the settings I used:
1.8a @ 2.615 with 1.65 vcore
Asus P4S533
Corsair PC-3200 cas2.5 @ DDR 435: 2-3-3-6-2
Vid card o/c: 313/582
lightbulb8817
12-03-02, 08:28 AM
I also did some tweaks in Riva Tuner.
asw7576
12-03-02, 09:28 AM
Corsair PC-3200 cas2.5 @ DDR 435: 2-3-3-6-2
DDR 435 ??? are you running your memory with 4:6 divider? if you could run at 435...... OMG again!!!! this is very high bandwidth dude..... No wonder I cannot get even close to 12,000.
Anyway, thanks for the idea running the memory timings at 2-3-3-6-2. Almost another 100 points FREE.
lightbulb8817
12-03-02, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by asw7576
DDR 435 ??? are you running your memory with 4:6 divider? if you could run at 435...... OMG again!!!! this is very high bandwidth dude..... No wonder I cannot get even close to 12,000.
Anyway, thanks for the idea running the memory timings at 2-3-3-6-2. Almost another 100 points FREE.
Thanks for your compliments.
My ram can actually do DDR 460, but its either my cpu or motherboard holding me back.
It can do DDR 450+ when I have the fsb set at 115-120 with the 3:6 divider, but it doesn't do DDR 450+ when I'm at 145 fsb +.
I bought the BFG Asylum GeForce4 Ti4200 card at Best Buy this last Friday. Not a bad card for $90 after rebate, however:
1.) No RAM sinks - not TOO big a deal, I would rather put them on myself.
2.) Heatsink is stuck to the core with epoxy. It is a cheap blue orb that is not even a one-piece construction - it is actually the round base with the circular fin piece attached with what looks like three strips of metal sandwhiched into the gap between the base edge and the inside edge of the fin piece. The epoxy was applied to one 5/8 of the chip, at most 3/4 and was not centered (it was more toward the lower right hand corner of the core). Because of this I could see light under the heatsink, so I took it off - I've got a Thermaltake GeForce 4 copper cooler on the way that I am going to put on along with the RAM sinks.
ya think?
Originally posted by Cisco Kid
your p4 at 2610 helped out a bit I'd say nice score mang!!!
cisco kid
lightbulb8817
12-03-02, 06:12 PM
More 3dmarks coming...I just got a 2.4B ;)
Hmm, so after a little tussle with BestBuy, they offered to give me a PNY 4400 128 in a straight exchange for my BFG 4200 128. And they gave me the MIR upfront so I don't have to wait for it.
Did I make the right choice?
nihili
lightbulb8817
12-03-02, 09:16 PM
13573 (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5229497)
Who wants to challenge me???
13.5K and still climbing.
Radelon
12-04-02, 01:40 AM
Who wants to challenge me???
I will, but it's more like, you gotta catch me first:
14359: #1 P4 + Ti4200 under 2.7ghz (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5006536)
Radelon
12-04-02, 02:14 AM
I figured it's been about 1 month since I benched, so I decided to throw one up, and got a new high on the first shot.
14406: #1 P4 + Ti4200 under 2.7ghz (2.65ghz actual) (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5231046)
Mr.DLucey
12-05-02, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by nihili
Hmm, so after a little tussle with BestBuy, they offered to give me a PNY 4400 128 in a straight exchange for my BFG 4200 128. And they gave me the MIR upfront so I don't have to wait for it.
Did I make the right choice?
nihili
What happen?
Card DOA?
Originally posted by lightbulb8817
13573 (http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5229497)
Who wants to challenge me???
13.5K and still climbing.
Hehe, 13.5k is par for the 2.6GHz/GF4 course if done correctly. It certainly indicates your system is running at top form, but breaks no new ground. The mid 14K scores are really good for these machines, but just the product of the extreme clock rate advantage possible with (some) Albatron Ti4200P's.
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5045175
This is my best 2.6GHz score, done with my underachieving Abit Ti4400. It only does 300/650MHz, putting it a disadvantage compared to your Ti4200 at 320/590. 590 on the ram is great for a 128MB Ti4200 though, If there was anything out there like that months ago when I bought the Ti4400 I wouldn't of have. This is a truly good find, thanks for sharing it.
I had to retire my P4S533 to break 13K, as mine would only manage 150fsb, not enough for my cpu. Be aware that your's is probably limited by the cpu or chipset, not the ram (as evidenced by the 450+ capability at lower fsb/higher multiplier). The real key here is getting on the 4:6 multiplier, something that takes expensive ram to do. 845e's produce higher FSB and an easier time with the memory as 3:4 at say 160MHz fsb is 432DDR, much easier to achieve than the SiS based system with at least 150fsb and a 4:6 induced 450MHz memory rate required to provide roughly equal performance. The extra ram cost incurred by the SiS multiplier options far outweighs the cost advantage of SiS chipsets.
lightbulb8817
12-06-02, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by larva
Hehe, 13.5k is par for the 2.6GHz/GF4 course if done correctly. It certainly indicates your system is running at top form, but breaks no new ground. The mid 14K scores are really good for these machines, but just the product of the extreme clock rate advantage possible with (some) Albatron Ti4200P's.
http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=5045175
This is my best 2.6GHz score, done with my underachieving Abit Ti4400. It only does 300/650MHz, putting it a disadvantage compared to your Ti4200 at 320/590. 590 on the ram is great for a 128MB Ti4200 though, If there was anything out there like that months ago when I bought the Ti4400 I wouldn't of have. This is a truly good find, thanks for sharing it.
I had to retire my P4S533 to break 13K, as mine would only manage 150fsb, not enough for my cpu. Be aware that your's is probably limited by the cpu or chipset, not the ram (as evidenced by the 450+ capability at lower fsb/higher multiplier). The real key here is getting on the 4:6 multiplier, something that takes expensive ram to do. 845e's produce higher FSB and an easier time with the memory as 3:4 at say 160MHz fsb is 432DDR, much easier to achieve than the SiS based system with at least 150fsb and a 4:6 induced 450MHz memory rate required to provide roughly equal performance. The extra ram cost incurred by the SiS multiplier options far outweighs the cost advantage of SiS chipsets.
I could probably break 14k with a PE mobo. As you can see, I was using the 4:5 divider....which gives me just a hair less of DDr 400 @ 2.8Ghz. If only I had a 3:4 divider. :(
Don't forgot that I payed less than half the price for my Asylum ($89, black friday deal) rather then buying the Albatron turbo which cost in the $180-$200 range.
Originally posted by lightbulb8817
I could probably break 14k with a PE mobo. As you can see, I was using the 4:5 divider....which gives me just a hair less of DDr 400 @ 2.8Ghz. If only I had a 3:4 divider. :(
Don't forgot that I payed less than half the price for my Asylum ($89, black friday deal) rather then buying the Albatron turbo which cost in the $180-$200 range.
I agree, an 845 board (doesn't even have to be pe, 845e works the same aside from hyperthreading support) would help your scores. I liked my P4S533 but it was limiting clock rate by its complete lack of stability above 150fsb and the lack of a 3:4 multiplier. My machine ran at 150fsb with the P4S533, and tolerated the 4:5 divider this setup yielded 12.8K. Switching to an 845e board netted 162MHz fsb, providing 200 more MHz on chip in addition to the faster bus. Even at 1:1 memory the 3DMark improved to 13K. Switching to a newer stick of ram allowed the 3:4 multiplier to utilized, and increased the score to 13.8K. Many times you can't find a chip's limits on a P4S533 because the chipset can limit fsb so easily. If you put your chip on an 845 board you might find it has a lot more left in it than 145fsb.
I'm not trying to glorify the Albatron, just pointing out that the difference between our mid to high 13K scores and the mid 14K score posted is video card clock rate. I feel your card is a great deal (especially at only 89 bucks) and provides a very impressive overclock on the memory compared to most reference design 128MB 4200's. I agree your card is a better value, but the 715MHz memory clock on the Albatron example is a big factor in the higher score.
lightbulb8817
12-10-02, 10:56 PM
I just picked up a refurbished P4B533 from Newegg! This board will carry me over till GB arrives.
The sad part is I'm going to have to ship my P4 2.4B back so I won't have a 2.4B for couple weeks.
I also got a new 1.8A which hopefully will overclock well.
AND I ALSO got an Abit geforce 4 ti 4200 OTES:
http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=14-123-120-06.jpg/14-123-120-05.jpg/14-123-120-02.jpg/14-123-120-03.jpg
Hehe, 14k shouldn't be too far away....I just wish I had my 2.4B right now.
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