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CPFitz14
12-09-02, 08:05 PM
How dangerous is it to run your monitor at a higher resolution than its meant for. Right now my Viewsonic A72f(17") is running at 1600x1024, and it sure is nice having all of this room:D:D Do you think it will make my monitor crap out on me? After all, overclocking most other components is pretty safe.

Ehhh....if it breaks I'll just RMA it:D Just Kidding,:D testing out the O.E.M.:D

-CPFitz-

walldow
12-09-02, 08:32 PM
i think you can run the monitor in the highest resolution you can get and it wont hert it. it is the refresh rate you have to be carfull with.

the higher the resolution the lower you will have to go with the refresh rate. if you use too high a refresh rate on a certain resolution it will fry the monitaor.

best thing to do is get some info on youre specific monitor and see what refresh rates are supported for each resolution.

also in the display settings (monitor settings there is a check box) for HIDE MODES THAT MONITOR CANNOT DISPLAY. make shure the box is checked and see what refreshrates the monitor is capable of!


hope this helped?

Default
12-09-02, 08:34 PM
it is not dangerous to have your monitor over spec. It's just that generaly within spec you will get better picture clarity.

Fore example my viewsonic p95f is suposed to run at 85Hz @ 1600*1200 for best image quality, but for games i crank it up to 100HZ at a slight sacrifice of image clarity. Also if it is dangerous for you monitor to be at that setting then the monitor will either go black or give you a message saying that the current setting is out of spec.

bottom line is you will notice if you are running the monitor too high e.g flickering or lines

cack01
12-09-02, 08:35 PM
Usually if you push your monitor too far, you will start to hear a whine come from it. That usually means its time to back down on the refresh rate.

Default
12-09-02, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by cack01
Usually if you push your monitor too far, you will start to hear a whine come from it. That usually means its time to back down on the refresh rate.

the most common fix for that is just reseating the power cord in the monitor. I used to have a monitor that was horrible for that annoying whineand all i had to do was wigel the plug

dabest
12-09-02, 08:46 PM
i would love to oc the mon
i cant even go 1024x768 up, my mon is a 14inch old school AcerView

raven
12-09-02, 10:36 PM
14" TTX ... gotta luv good old TTX !!

thats what i was usin just a few months ago.. now i got a 17" azura.. never knew it was possible to overclock your monitor.. hum.. that gives me ideas...lol

Stumpjumper5200
12-09-02, 10:45 PM
Here's a wierd one for ya...

This monitor I have (Viewsonic A90f) was shown to support 100Hz in 1024x768x32 on my old GF3Ti500, with the "Hide modes this monitor cannot display" checked. Now it is the same but with a 9700Pro, but it only gives me the option of 85hz....what's the deal with that???

cack01
12-09-02, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by Default


the most common fix for that is just reseating the power cord in the monitor. I used to have a monitor that was horrible for that annoying whineand all i had to do was wigel the plug

I will try to wiggle it alittle.:) I have had a few conversation about the whine, and most agreed that it goes away when the refresh is back down. I'll try yours out next time I get a whine.

iceman2g
12-09-02, 11:31 PM
what exactly does the refresh rate really do?

CPFitz14
12-10-02, 05:58 AM
Once I slap a new heatsink on there, some more ASIII, I should be able to get it up to 1600x1200, at least after I burn it in:D:D Maybe it needs more voltage:D Anyways, thanks for the help, and good luck o/cing your monitors:D..

-CPFitz-

thirteen13rulez
12-10-02, 10:03 AM
iceman2g: higher refresh rate=more frames displayed per second

Overclocker550
12-10-02, 06:16 PM
you can OC the res but not refresh rate. I got my old 15" to 1600x1200 at 56Hz and its possible cause it does 1280x1024 at 66Hz accroding to specs. all modern monitors automatically shut down if out of spec refresh rate wise. those that dont may fry. someone fried his 15" by running 1024x768 at 85Hz. He heard a whine then the screen flickered then poof went out and its dead all in 5 seconds! if you hear a whine and the screen starts going crazy, turn monitor off NOW!!!!!!!!!! reboot in safemode and reset to default res

Darkseid
12-10-02, 07:10 PM
for overclocking your monitor you can use powerstrip

my panasonic 17" at 85 hz he pictures lose a little bright, but at 86 it went normal (only at 85 i goes a little dark) and the max i can get is 89hz at 1024x768


EDIT: with power strip you CAN overclock you refresh

CPFitz14
12-10-02, 07:26 PM
Got my monitor up to 200hz:D:D at 640x480, didn't go any higher for fear of broken monitor. Anyone know how you can manually lower your refresh rate? I'd like to run at a higher res, and would be willing to sacrifice my refresh rate. Right now its a 60hz, how do i make it lower?

http://www.theforumisdown.com/uploadfiles/1102/refresh rate.jpg

PhobMX
12-10-02, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by Darkseid
for overclocking your monitor you can use powerstrip

my panasonic 17" at 85 hz he pictures lose a little bright, but at 86 it went normal (only at 85 i goes a little dark) and the max i can get is 89hz at 1024x768


EDIT: with power strip you CAN overclock you refresh

hmmm, explain yourself man, it would be schweet to run 100hz @ 1024x78 in this cheapish 17" gem monitor

Stumpjumper5200
12-10-02, 08:28 PM
CPFitz14 - Check out Powerstrip, it's a cool program. All kind of vid card tweaks/overclocks, plus you can play with color settings and all kinds of custom resolutions and refresh rates.

ronin1967
12-10-02, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by iceman2g
what exactly does the refresh rate really do?

The image on your computer monitor is drawn line by line with beams fired from three electron guns at the back of the CRT(Cathode Ray Tube).

Each gun represents a different colors: red, green, and blue. The colors blend to make all the colors you see. The frequency at which they redraw the image is called the refresh rate, the higher the refresh rate the steadier the image will apear.

A refresh rate of 60 Hz means the screen is redrawn 60 times per second, will almost always look shakey, especially under fluorescent lights, which have the same refresh. The lower the resfresh rate the harder your eyes have to work and the more they will be fatigued. So try and keep your refresh rate as high as possible(75Hz and up)

What cool is when you spend several hours looking at montitor with a refresh rate of 85Hz or higher then go watch some TV, you will see the TV actually refresh in front of your eyes because it has a lower refresh rate and your eyes have adjusted to better standards, but don't worry they adjust quickly and TV will look as good(or as bad depending on what you are watching at the time)

CPFitz14
12-10-02, 08:39 PM
Alrighty, I'll check it out, can you underclock your refresh? That'd be sweet to run 2048x1536 on a 17" monitor:D Course i'd probably have constant seizures from a 15hz refresh rate:D

I must have slow eyes, b/c I don't notice anything at 60 hz:D

-CPFitz-

ronin1967
12-10-02, 08:42 PM
To be honest I have never heard of anyone lowering refresh rates. Most manufactures and techs will tell you to set some sort of optimal level(usually around 60Hz-70Hz)to prolong the life of the monitor.

The candle that burns twice as bright burns twice as fast.

CPFitz14
12-10-02, 09:23 PM
well, if I can't tell the difference in refresh rates, I may as well run it with as high a resolution as I can, right?

Its late, quote...... hurting....brain,.......too....much....thinking... ..

-CPFitz-

ronin1967
12-10-02, 09:27 PM
sure...bottom line is whatever looks best for you...

What OS are you running?

CPFitz14
12-10-02, 09:32 PM
Thanks for the powerstrip link, my monitor is now running at 1920x1080, my screen is HUGE This is crazy. I think I may have lost a little sharpness though, will have to try to fix that. Thanks for the help so far guys:D

Ronin: Running w2k pro.

Oh, and if you guys could only see this, I hardly have to scroll to see the whole list of forums:D


-CPFitz-

edit: Now, if I could lower my refresh rate past 60, I could really get the resolution up there.:D

Alright, now who can beat 1920x1080, and im talking 17"ers, no 19". But i'd still be interested in who can get the highest overall.

Stumpjumper5200
12-10-02, 10:12 PM
My 2 light year wide screen can do infinity-x-gogolplex resolution at 1Ghz refresh rate.

The ultimate pr0n screen ROFL!!!

PhobMX
12-10-02, 10:45 PM
i will overclock my 17" gem monitor so it dies faster on purpose (God i hate that my dad never buys new stuff but when its ubberly necesary... Viewsonic 19" here i go :D ). I hate 75Hz and below, in fact i feel like 85Hz is still a mediocre refreshrate. 100Hz however, looks ultra cool. My monitor is rated at 68/85 FPS at 1024, lets see if it can take 60/100 :cool: . I will have the whinning in mind of course...

Overclocker550
12-11-02, 03:24 AM
"Alright, now who can beat 1920x1080, and im talking 17"ers, no 19". But i'd still be interested in who can get the highest overall."


I overclocked both the monitor and video card's ramdac? to get that res! Notice that I had to lower the refresh rate to 45-50Hz(dont remember but it was somewhere there) and also the display was soft and had slight artifacts, note the upper corner, the "X" button is scrambled.


http://www.imagemagician.org/images/acemann/QUXGA-n.jpg

CPFitz14
12-11-02, 02:20 PM
I have to know how you lowered the refresh. :D C'mon, try to remember:D

-CPFitz-

edit: Figured it out. Lowered my refresh to like 20hz, and the screen slowly blinked:D Anyways, i'm back down to 1024x1280. Its pretty nice at 140hz:D

-CPFitz-

CPFitz14
12-11-02, 06:31 PM
Oh, just noticed. Hey o/c550, what size monitor are you using?

Darkseid
12-11-02, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by PhobMX


hmmm, explain yourself man, it would be schweet to run 100hz @ 1024x78 in this cheapish 17" gem monitor

in power strip go to display profiles, then configure and then advanced timmings options, i only recommend changing the refresh rate, go slow until you monitor start to flicking, then go a little back until.... well wtf am i talking about, iīm sure you guys are going to figure this out yourselves, good luck!! ;)

Darkseid
12-11-02, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by CPFitz14
Oh, just noticed. Hey o/c550, what size monitor are you using?

he hasnīt applied the changes... it canīt be done

Overclocker550
12-11-02, 10:48 PM
Im using a proview 19" monitor. the box says 1600x1200 at 75Hz maximum so if I run higher I must lower refresh rate or my monitor shuts down and says "out of spec" older monitors would just burn out. mine has a safety shut down.

Big_KiD
12-12-02, 12:49 AM
I read somewhere that using higher than 85Hz makes your vid card work overtime and it hurts overall system performance. Is this true?.. Right now I have a Samsung 700IFT (which I love) Running in 1024x768 at 85 Hz..

Stumpjumper5200
12-12-02, 01:09 AM
Hardly.

Video cards are doing billions (even trillions) of calculations per second while at load, sending out 85 frames per second to a monitor is the easy part.

PhobMX
12-12-02, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by Big_KiD
I read somewhere that using higher than 85Hz makes your vid card work overtime and it hurts overall system performance. Is this true?.. Right now I have a Samsung 700IFT (which I love) Running in 1024x768 at 85 Hz..


thats the most stupid BS ive heard... play some games at 100fps if your system can hold it and youll see what computer gaming is all about ;) . It wont hurt the monitor at all heck, even less the whole comp. give it a shot.

Overclocker550
12-12-02, 01:10 AM
Then use 60Hz refresh rate and disable v-sync so youll get more than 60fps

RuKK
12-12-02, 12:21 PM
It doesnt matter how many FPS you get if your moniter is running at 60Hz.. AT the same time, it doesnt matter how high your refresh rate is if you get crappy fps.. I'm happy with between 60 and 85 FPS and 85hz refresh rate at 1024x768x32 in most games.

Overclocker550
12-12-02, 12:33 PM
always disable v-sync so it doesnt limit your fps

RuKK
12-12-02, 12:36 PM
Does v-sync actualy limit your fps, or does it just cut down on performance?

Overclocker550
12-12-02, 12:55 PM
reduces tearing which most people dont see anyway

RuKK
12-12-02, 12:59 PM
Yes I know what it does, but you said above that it limits fps... So is it just a performance hit or does it impose a limit no matter how fast your system?

Stumpjumper5200
12-12-02, 01:00 PM
The only time I get it is in MOH:AA, and it can get BAD sometimes. REALLY bad, but other than that it's fine, kudos to ATI for finally putting it in.