Ti4200 card in an AGP 1.0 slot?

[Admiral Falcon]

I am the 'proud' owner of a computer that contains a lovely 8MB Diamond Viper V550 from ye olde ancient times. Needless to say, video performance is crap on anything above 640x480x16.

I have recently bought a Mad Dog Ti4200 graphics card, and the system requirements on the box state that the card requires an AGP 2.0 or higher slot. The box says the card is 4x/2x compliant.

My computer's motherboard is Super7-based; it is a GA-5AA Gigabyte motherboard with the Ali Aladdin V chipset. It has an AGP 1.0 slot (which supports 1x/2x).

The Ti4200 appears to be able to fit in the slot, and ATI's website describes how their cards have the same card connector the Ti4200 appears to have (the one ATI calls "Universal AGP"). I am worried about the voltages, however.

The AGP 1.0 spec calls for 3.3v to the AGP card. The AGP 2.0 spec calls for 1.5v. Is the Ti4200, like its ATI counterparts, universal between AGP 1.0 and AGP 2.0 slots - or will it fry if I attempt to plug it in?

[Robbie]

If I were you I'd do some more research. I would hate to have you kill a card becuase of wrong voltages.

Rob

[Mr.DLucey]

Check it system requirements on the 4200 to see if your processor is fast enough. You said it a super socket 7 but failed to say what speed your processor was. I think you will find that that's to much video card for that system even if it was to run for you. My old super socket 7 has a PCI GeForce 2 mx400 which works great and was the best upgrade I made on that system.

[Admiral Falcon]

I'm using an AMD K6-2/400.

The system requirements on the box state "AMD K6-2/266 or better".

I just want to know if it will run safely in the machine; getting the most performance out of the card can wait until after I'm able to upgrade the mobo and CPU.

[dxiw]

watch out the older slots are 3.3v and this new card is 1.5v. be very careful you don't cook it.

[Monaco]

I would shoot an email to the manufacturer of the card and ask them. The voltages are different, but it sounds like it should work anyway- but I wouldn't risk my expensive video card finding out.

[Falcon-K]

before u take the risk email the manufacturer

[deez]

I dont even think it will fit in the slot properly...if I were you I wouldn't plug it in.

[Overclocker550]

you wont get more performance, cpu too slow. return that card and get a faster cpu and new mobo

[phantom punisher]

my freind used to run his g4 ti4600 in his abit bp6. that board should be agp v1.0 cause its really old. he didnt have any problems

[mtnbikerjerry]

Will you risk it for sure. I recall alone using a super socket 7 with a Tnt2 m64, it had issues eventhough the card took, it just did not want to bring up any 3d games that well even with the right chipset drivers. You could possibly get away with the first generation Gforce SDR cards. Please contact the video card manufacturer. That is so important, thus saving you from the time consuming RMA and explantion process.

[old silicon]

Don't know about your particular mobo/graphics combo but I am running an old Intel PII 233 with an AL440LX mobo which is also AGP spec1 with a GeForce2 GTS-V AGP spec2 card. When I first installed it using the shipped Visiontek drivers (NV 23.11) it worked great while 3D gaming but would lock-up under normal 2D apps. By using older Nvidia reference drivers I was able to get the card working rock solid even OC from 175/286 stock to 200/310. I started out with driver version 6.31. With alot of testing and driver downloads I am now running NV 14.10 WQHL which seems to give me the best performance with stability. Remember to use Detonator Destroyer when changing Nvidia drivers. You can download older Nvidia drivers and Detonator Destroyer at:http://guru3d.com/

Hope this helps. Good luck.

[ferria]

when you live in the states why not just get a nice refurbised mobo from newegg for around 30 bucks,and you wont risk frying your new card this card only needs 1.5 volts

[Niatross]

I have a Abit siluro 4200 OTES stuck in an Old SS7 Asus P5A-B also with the Aladdin V chipset while I build a new machine. Works great in Win 98 hardly works at all in WinXP, all sorts of problems. I read somewhere that it would work with both voltages though I can't remember where. Been in there for 4 days now. I have a K6III 550 @630 and it did provide a considerable boost over my old Matrox G400 Max. So went from a video card bottleneck to a CPU bottleneck. But a boost just the same. 3Dmark 2000 ( no sense trying the later 3Dmark benches the scores would make me cry) went from 1700 to over 3000.

[funnyperson1]

i would suggest getting a new mobo/cpu, an AthlonXP and ECSK7S5A can be had for around 100$ total and it will make you VERY happy

[zabomb4163]

i agree with the advice given by funnyperson1. even the integrated graphics on many mobos would be vastly better than a geforce4 4200 on a 400meghrz processor. if you can hold for a new processor and motherboard. then you can hold for upgrading the graphics card from integrated on a new mobo.

[Overclocker550]

^^^^^^^nonsense! on any cpu, faster video cards still help!

[Admiral Falcon]

Thanks for the advice, however my problem is still not solved because:

1) The card was only affordable via a mail-in rebate, which required the UPC cutout, which means there is no way to return the card - it was not bought online.

2) My current case and processor are baby-AT, so switching the mobo and CPU also requires new memory, new fans and cables, a new PSU and a new case. This unfortunately comes to about $220, which I cannot currently spare.

3) I e-mailed the manufacturer three days ago, and still no word from the company. I can probably expect a reply in 6-8 weeks. :)

4) nVidia's website has an incredible non-having-ness of information about slot compliance; ATI's website has an extensive chart. Too bad I didn't get the Radeon 9000 Pro instead - according to ATI, it would've worked in my ancient AGP 1.0 slot...

Thumbs down *way, way down* to nVidia for not making anything backward-compatible; they must own stock in the mobo companies.

If anyone has any definite info and is 100% certain a Ti4200 can run in the AGP 1.0 slot, please reply. Thank you for your time.

[Lancelot]

I'm running a GF4-MX460 on a AGP 1.0 iBX board without any problems. It's running on a 89Mhz 2xAGP bus and OCed from 300/550 to 330/660. I understand these new cards have their own voltage-regulator onboard which kicks in when there's 3.3V detected and doesn't do anything on a 1.5V AGP slot. This way they do work in most older boards, but since your super-socket7 board is from even before the slot1 era (SS7 doesn't even support AGP-aperture etc.) I can't guarantee you won't fry your card!!!