I just bought a thermal take smart fan 2

[crion]

...where should i place it? shold it be an intake or a exhaust?
thats the only fan i have.

[walkerIV]

Since you proly do have another fan in the PSU working for exaust, the better thing to do would be to put the tt fan as an intake in front of the case thus creating a dicected airflow.
Although you would be proly better off using smart fan as an exaust.
So i personally would look into swapping the PSU fan for the tt fan and then using PSU fan for an intake.

$.02

[crion]

thx, but why swop the fans?

[walkerIV]

Smart fan is temperature controlled, so it would only spin as fast as required thus producing less noise.
Having it as an exaust fan would allow it to actually sense the internal case temps on the exaust, where as in intake it would only sense cold air stream it pumps in and wouldn't spin up too much.

[crion]

thought so :)
thx alot!

[james.miller]

thats a complete waste of a smartfan

think about it for a second. whats the average case temp? 26-27c at the most? exactly. whats the point of using a smartfan as a case fan with the thermal sensor if the temp never rise over 30c? the fan will never spin up fast enough!

if you have another space for an exaust then put it there and use the manual control instead.
Why cant you put it on the heat sink? is it too big? or is the heat sink passive?

[walkerIV]

I'm sorry if i misunderstood the original question.
I thought crion asked for a case position of the new fan.

As to waste of smartfan, it seems to me that a lot of modern psu run rather hot thus the large number of 'trendy' psu nowdays boasts temperature controlled fans as a revolutionary feature.

[crion]

yeah its too big for my heatsink.
and my case temp is like 35-40 :|

[james.miller]

psus dont run that hot, walkerIV. Most decent 400+watters are more than fine with only one fan.
as for misunderstand the question, walkerIV.i hope you werent being sarcastic. As if you were, you've made yourself look a little silly, Read my post again:
if you have another space for an exaust then put it there and use the manual control instead


just out of curiosity, what heat sink do you actually have?

[walkerIV]

Originally posted by james.miller
Most decent 400+watters are more than fine with only one fan.


Most cpus also run fine with stock hsf combos. And non-overclocked.
Desire to make things better is not a bad thing.


as for misunderstand the question, walkerIV.i hope you werent being sarcastic. As if you were, you've made yourself look a little silly

I wasn't sarcastic and i wasnt even directing the post at you as a matter of fact.

[james.miller]

Originally posted by walkerIV


Most cpus also run fine with stock hsf combos. And non-overclocked.
Desire to make things better is not a bad thing.
Most cpu's run fine at STOCK speed with stock hsf combo's
psu's, on the otherhand, are stress tested to their limit to supply their maximum rated current.
What im getting at with this, is that psu's generally arnt overclock, are they? so, you dont need to upgrade their cooling. because it doesnt make them better.
On the flip-side, there arnt many people who run there cpus at stock, so an upgrade of the heat-sink is nessesary if people want to overclock.
I wasn't sarcastic and i wasnt even directing the post at you as a matter of fact.
i said i HOPE you wernt, please dont jump the gun.

[crion]

I got a glacialtech 2320(i know it sucks), but do u think that i can improve the temperature of my cpu with the smart fan on?

[walkerIV]

Originally posted by james.miller

Most cpu's run fine at STOCK speed with stock hsf combo's
psu's, on the otherhand, are stress tested to their limit to supply their maximum rated current.

Sure, thats why all models from one manufacturer carry exactly the same type of fan (the cheapest they could get their hands on).
And then when somebody stress-tests the psus according to their specs they blowup in their faces.


On the flip-side, there arnt many people who run there cpus at stock

yeah all the ppl with dell computers out there (what about 60% of usa market) have a vapochill installed and clocking it out at 150 %
:)

[james.miller]

crion: yes it sure will help.
Originally posted by walkerIV


Sure, thats why all models from one manufacturer carry exactly the same type of fan (the cheapest they could get their hands on).
And then when somebody stress-tests the psus according to their specs they blowup in their faces.
how many people on these forums have had a psu blow up in there face? not many.
On the flip-side, there arnt many people who run there cpus at stock
yeah all the ppl with dell computers out there (what about 60% of usa market) have a vapochill installed and clocking it out at 150 %:)

WalkerIV, next time try to quote the WHOLE sentance, not a part of it. THEN perhaps you would understand. Lets try again shall we?
Originally posted by James.Miller
On the flip-side, there arnt many people who run there cpus at stock, so an upgrade of the heat-sink is nessesary if people want to overclock.
see? that makes much more sence, doesn't it?

remember WalkerIV, this is an OVERCLOCKERS forum. we overclock by nature. people with DELL pc dont overclock do they? so what is the point of uprating the cooling if the current cooling is ok?

[walkerIV]

Well let's see.
If a part of a sentence is bad i pick it and question it.
Thus i was highly doubtful of the statement that most computers out there are overclocked. The context has nothing to do with it.

Second of all if one insist on reading the whole sentences then how many ppl out here do stress test (http://www4.tomshardware.com/howto/20021021/) their PSUs?

And then:
http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=146916&highlight=blow

[Decaf]

Consider putting the fan on the side pointed at your motherboard. You can use the temperature sensor function and place the fan anywhere you want so long as the sensor cord is long enough. You can try extending it. BTW the heat sensor is that flat thingy. Go to their website they have instructions on mounting the sensor so it takes temps off the cpu, then you can extend the cord if needed and place the fan in the front or the side. Or you can do like me and just use the manual knob control.
THis sucker is LoUD at 4800 rpm.

[Cullam3n]

Exactly my point Decaf. It seems everyone forgot about the manual knob speed fan controller?

-CP

[crion]

Originally posted by Decaf
Consider putting the fan on the side pointed at your motherboard.

I need to make a blowhole then or what do u mean?

[crion]

i really would like a guide showing how to make a blowhole, do u know where i can find one?

[slater3333uk]

hi ciron

i think what Decaf means is that you should mount the fan on the side panel of the case so that it blows directly on the cpu heatsink and fan

this is not usaly refured to as a blow hole. a blow hole is a fan in the top of the case witch removes hot air witch gets trapped there due to the fact that hot air rises. that would be a waste of your fan

as i see it you have 3 choices

1. you can mont it at the front of the case blowing in

2. mount it at the back, level with the cpu so it sucks hot air straight off it

3. mount it on the side panel so that it blows cold air directly on the cpu

in my oppinon the 3rd choice is best but it will require you to make a hole in your case so if your not down with that theres not alot between the other two.

and last of all use the manual control to change the fan speed its alot more reliable.

[crion]

thx alot for all tips... i think i will use it as a intake in the front... or maybe...

what the hekk ill try all the ways.

[james.miller]

crion YGPM

[SpyderMatrix]

Originally posted by walkerIV
Well let's see.
If a part of a sentence is bad i pick it and question it.
Thus i was highly doubtful of the statement that most computers out there are overclocked. The context has nothing to do with it.

Second of all if one insist on reading the whole sentences then how many ppl out here do stress test (http://www4.tomshardware.com/howto/20021021/) their PSUs?

And then:
http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=146916&highlight=blow

well walkerIV i stress test all my psus after i buy them and all my friends do and the computers i build for my clients i stress test the psu's also as i build for gaming mostly and a good 10% of the gamers eventually try ocing at least once. So i figure well better stress test just in case, im glad i do also i have never seen a psu blow up in someones face. Point me to a thread or a link that shows this please.

[james.miller]

exactly.

[SpyderMatrix]

if you need a diagram for the fan to cut it out let me know i have the diagrams for 60mm,80mm,92mm and 120mm ok pm me or answer in the thread

[walkerIV]

What exact method of stress-testing are you employing sir?
Perhaps we are using similar terms to describe different techniques.
As for the blowing PSU link you've just recently quoted it yourself lol.

[james.miller]

well, walkerVI, scince this all started out with you recommending that he put a smartfanII in his psu, and it was you who gave the link to Tom's psu group test, i'm only going to say one thing, which is this:

It did say that one psu failed IF you had the fan turned down too far, but turning the speed up cures that problem. SO to summerise, Nowhere, at any point in the test,does it say that ANY psu's cooling was inadiquate, therefor a smartfan is a waste in a psu.

that was my argument, you said otherwise, and you have just proved yourself wrong. this can stop now.does everybody agree?
Besides i PM'd crion with some advice from some of the more experianced forum members, and he should have all the info he needs, unless he has thought of something else?

[walkerIV]

i disagree

[james.miller]

what thats it? no whitty retort? no picking apart my sentances? all you can say is you disagree? lol
Anyway, no hard feelings, and above all, enjoy the christmas holidays!

[walkerIV]

cheers