FX price??

[ikari899]

does any one have an idea how much the FX is going to be?

[ikari899]

ok i heard that the FX was going to be $360 US any one heard any thing else??

[Akumu X]

well if it's anything like the 2GTS...3....3Ti500 and 4 4600 then it should be $399.

Either way, figure right around that much for the 5800 Ultra model. maybe knock $60 for the non-ultra.

[MoonWolf]

Probably $400.

[ikari899]

ok so the real question is do you think that the card would be worth $400. will you get it??

[Silversinksam]

I don't know if Kyle over at [H] is pimping ATI's again or what, but he wrote this yesterday


ATI - NVIDIA - TSMC - .13:
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) will be the primary production hub for the 0.13-micron graphics chips in 2003 with orders from Nvidia and ATI Technologies. Besides Nvidia’s GeForce FX (NV30), ATI’s new desktop-use RV350 and the notebook-supporting M10 (R300 core) will also be manufactured by the world’s largest foundry next year.

There are some interesting thoughts to go along with tidbit of news. I jokingly mentioned on stage at the [H]ardware Workshop on Friday night that the GeForceFX would show up in retail on February 27, 2003. Funny thing is that it seems I may not be far off at all. At this current time it is safe to say that GFFX will be in stock between Feb. 15 and Feb. 28 and will cost you US$500.00. Now that is the word today. What is interesting is that if NVIDIA falters, it could possibly leave the door open for ATI to bring the first .13 micron VidCard part to market, albeit mainstream.

Also we have been hot to trot for both of NVIDIA's and ATI's notebook parts for the next gen, and it is safe to say that laptop gaming will reach a new pinnacle next year if we see either the 4200 mobile or the M10 make it out onto the market in any kind of quantity. I have decided I will hold onto my PIII-500 notebook till I can buy one or the other above.

[Evnas]

My bet is that the Ti5800 Ultra will be $500 (Just like the GF2 Ultra). And what Kyle said is 100% true. ATi will have their R350 cores ready to push out right after nVidia launches the GeForceFX, and if nVidia does slip, its totaly possable that ATi could get their cards out first

[Koopa_Fett]

:eek: No way I'm spending more than $250 US for a video card.

[ikari899]

have you seen how good the fx is??

[Fuzzy]

my game informer magazine listed the fx in the back under soon to be released items and had it as 360$ and they usually get the prices right on the nose. I hope its nothing over 450$ cuz im not spending more than what i spent to build my whole computer :)

[SlaughterUall]

This Card is going to rock i can't wait to see what the offical list price is. I would love to get one but still trying to save money to upgrade my POS system (build a new one).

[Evnas]

Originally posted by ikari899
have you seen how good the fx is??

Nobody has, unless ur developing it at nVidia

[timmyqwest]

all i know is that i've heard $350-ish...but either way mine is going to be free :-D

[Tygur]

Originally posted by Evnas
Nobody has, unless ur developing it at nVidia
Actually, nvidia did show it off already, so lots of people have seen it work..

[Evnas]

Originally posted by Tygur

Actually, nvidia did show it off already, so lots of people have seen it work..

Nobody has seen "how good it is"...all they have seen are nVidia's own benchmarks

[Tygur]

Originally posted by Evnas
Nobody has seen "how good it is"...all they have seen are nVidia's own benchmarks
All that really should matter is how it looks when it is running. If I recall correctly, nvidia did show it in action. That's what I'm referring to, not the benchmark figures they provided.

[breez]

IIRC MSI and Leadtek were first to announce their GFFX card and the price was 450$.

[Evnas]

Originally posted by breez
IIRC MSI and Leadtek were first to announce their GFFX card and the price was 450$.

Just checked their websites...nothing on em about a NV30 press release

[youngbuck]

Nvidia also gave some scores that the Fx got with 3dBenchmark. All I remember as that they were insane.

[Buhammot]

As far as the benchmarks, i know that they had the Game 4 Nature scene, compared with the 4600, all "bells and whistles" on at 1600x1200 (could be wrong, but still a high rez) and had roughly double the fps that the 4600 pushed out.. When it is released, people will buy it, and have reviews all over. So dont drop a load in your pants and shoot your foot off if it is too high priced. As with any high tech item, the price will fall in time.

[Ugmore Baggage]

This article says suggested retail may be $450 for the MSI card.
10 layer pcb + DDR-II = muchos cashola
All I know is I want it NOW. Dunno if I'll get it, or if I'll still want it once I've seen it...

(from http://www.beyond3D.com )
Today Digitimes is reporting that board makers MSI and LeadTek may be first in line to receive the early samples of NV30 chips to produce GeForce FX boards. The ealiest expected date for graphics cards to hit the market is the end of January 2002.

Interestingly, due to potential issues over the complexity of boards, Digitimes reports that NVIDIA may use board manufacture red by one company and supply them to their other 3rd party vendors in a move to speed up a widespread availability of the card. Since moving away from pure board sales, this is a policy that ATI have adopted with one or two of their OEM manufacturers providing boards to many vendors, and only now, many months after the initial release, do we begin to see any differentiation from the reference board specification.

Apart from the large copper/heatpipe/fan mechanism a 10 layer PCB may be one of the concerns for board production, and may be a reason for a $450 price tag as suggested by MSI.
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In the scale of things, $450 isn't an irrational request, considering the expected speeds this thing will operate at (500/1000=ultra, 400/900vanilla) according to http://www.reactorcritical.com/cgi-bin/news.cgi?templ=single.http&id=1286

It's all overkill anyway :0 but at least this is more than a souped up version of an older model. Worth waiting for if you can afford it - I hope this card has the longevity of GF3...

[dreamtfk]

You won't even see any games hit the shelves that can fully utilize the FX for probably 2 years.

[Evnas]

Originally posted by dreamtfk
You won't even see any games hit the shelves that can fully utilize the FX for probably 2 years.

I would guess more along the lines of 5 years to get true "cinematic quality" that the GFFX boasts

[Default]

all i know is that my card has still not depreciated in value much and that i'm very happy with because i plan to get the r350 soon :D

[Beast_USA]

Fry's SoCal
Today told me about $100 more then the ti4600(leadtek)
That would be $519 the leadtek ti4600 ultra(ultra is a leadtek name ;) Evnas) is still $419

They said the cards would be in mid to end FEB:( (that normally means end of march)

[Mr.DLucey]

$400 is a lot for a video card that you can't use it's full potential for another 2 to 5 years. A lot could happen in that time. Any one with me on this. I know it will give you bench mark bragging rights but that's all, no?

[Owned By Me]

tru mr.dlucey, NO game from now and anywhere down the road for a few years atleast that i can see will require the FX...and for the price..when it hits shelves, $499.99 US. Nvidia has released that round-about price...

[Tygur]

Originally posted by Mr.DLucey
$400 is a lot for a video card that you can't use it's full potential for another 2 to 5 years. A lot could happen in that time. Any one with me on this. I know it will give you bench mark bragging rights but that's all, no?
At that price, it had better be that excessive and then some...

[Ghost68]

You can reserve one here... (http://uk.special.reserve.co.uk/reviews/info.php?code=GG2765) roughly converted to us currency its $527

[Goo Kenson]

Well I know that I would wait for at least one price drop if I were you guys, unless you have money to burn.

I myself can hopefully get it in July on my birthday, and by then the price should be down significantly.

[dreamtfk]

Originally posted by Goo Kenson
Well I know that I would wait for at least one price drop if I were you guys, unless you have money to burn.

No doubt.

[plague]

Originally posted by Ghost68
You can reserve one here... (http://uk.special.reserve.co.uk/reviews/info.php?code=GG2765) roughly converted to us currency its $527
Did you notice this:

"Due for Shipment: 4/4/2044"

:rolleyes:

[baqai]

Geforce FX - The Way It Is Meant To Be Played (By Your Kids Or Grand Kids) :D

[Ugmore Baggage]

Yeah and by the time there are games that use this card's programming abilities, it will cost $25 in some bargain bin.
Bwahaha!

I'm interested in this card based on pure power. The sheer cost of it is going to ensure that it won't be replaced for a long time. I mean gawd, I bet most systems sold don't even have a graphics card! I saw a P4-2Ghz yesterday that has SDR RAM!

My advise is to wait at least after it's released. Once in a great while prices actually go up slightly after an item is released but usually they drop 10-20% after the initial round (2-3 weeks).

[dreamtfk]

The 9700 Pro I'm guessing will be $300 or less by the time FX is released.

[oc jason]

At the CPL in Dallas (Dec18-Dec22) they had the GeForce FX in 5 different PC's availible for gaming and testing.

3.06ghz intel maching scored like 26,000- bone stock....and I doubt they had anything over 133 for a FSB and probably just regular memory.

nVIdia reps said $500 US also, the GF4 was liek $350+ upon release and it was only half the card that the FX is, also the FX has a MASSIVE cooling duct and enclosed fan on it and will take up the first PCI slot, on top of the chip under the cooler is a heat spreader like intel chips and old AMD k6's.

It is alot faster than any GF4 in benches but 22-25% faster than a 9700pro.

This was all first hand from myself and nVidia reps at the Winter CPL 2002 Dallas, TX

So unless it changes it is one H3LLA expensive card

[oc jason]

Furthermore, it had one AGE TEST where it was a 57 chevy pickup that was sitting in a barn. Barn was new as was the truck, with a blue-green paintjob shining like it jsut came off the floor, truck decked out in chrome. Barn was full of wood and shadows.

At the bottom was a TIME slider, as you slid the bar it aged everything in the schene far left truck was new , far right truck was aged 50 yrs with rust, chipping, oxidized paint. Truck sagged from failing suspension and tires went flat, truck gathered dust. Along with the shadows and wood and everything in the barn was aged as if it had not been moved in 50yrs. It was quite amazing to see b/c you could slide the AGER back and forth as fast as you wanted , as many times as you wanted and it never missed a beat. You had to be there to appreciate it

[Evnas]

Originally posted by dreamtfk
The 9700 Pro I'm guessing will be $300 or less by the time FX is released.

U can already get an OEM 9700 Pro for under $300 :)

[ikari899]

what about the launch games for the fx do they require it or is nvidia just paying them to lunch with the fx??

[AMDnitromike]

its going to be good...but at a cost...as is all vid cards when they come out.

[Lumen]

I think I will buy the FX in April right around when Star Wars Galaxies comes out. According to the developers of the game, you can set the detail levels of the graphics so high that no current setup can run it. We shall see!:D :p

[Evnas]

Originally posted by ikari899
what about the launch games for the fx do they require it or is nvidia just paying them to lunch with the fx??

No game for 3 or 4 years will REQUIRE a GFFX

[HoldenCaulfield]

Originally posted by Evnas


No game for 3 or 4 years will REQUIRE a GFFX

True, the power of this card will not be truly tested for quite a while, thats why I'm going to wait a while to buy it, but when Doom III comes out we are all going to need something to raise our performance.

[ikari899]

yea but doom 3 is said to run perfectly on the radion 9700 but i have seen the alpha run on a gforce 4 ti at 60 + fps. so still even the fx is not needed.

[Beast_USA]

Originally posted by ikari899
yea but doom 3 is said to run perfectly on the radion 9700 but i have seen the alpha run on a gforce 4 ti at 60 + fps. so still even the fx is not needed.


Is above 1gig needed?
more than 128 DDR needed?
more than 20gig drive needed?

We don't have it because we need it ........ WE WANT IT:D



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[Evnas]

Originally posted by Beast_USA



Is above 1gig needed?
more than 128 DDR needed?


most likely well over 1Ghz will be needed, and probably 512mb ram too (for a somewhat enjoyable experiance at least)

[Beast_USA]

Originally posted by Evnas


most likely well over 1Ghz will be needed, and probably 512mb ram too (for a somewhat enjoyable experiance at least)


Not in real life:( all the office machines (that make money)
under 1gig 96 to 128 PC133 even one P233 smokin!!!!!! edo I think

Only need more for playing:D

How many of us work in a photo studio ........ movie editing ......run a airport .............run the defence dept. ........are bookies in las vegas?
Some I'm sure they need above 1gig

[ikari899]

the computer that ran doom 3 with 60+ fps was configured as follows.

gforce 4 ti 128 mb ram
XP 2200
512 mb ram
40 gb hdd

im shure the ammount of ram doesent make a difference i have seen it run with only 256 mb of ram. and as for what prosessor is needed im not shur. my setup runs doom 3 at a max of 20 fps looking into a dark corner with not monster in the room. i bet its because of the gforce 2 mx so... other people will know.

[Fredrik]

Originally posted by ikari899
ok i heard that the FX was going to be $360 US

What's your source for that?

[ikari899]

i got it from my game informer magazine. i might be wrong cuz i really cant remember but i think some one else got the price from a game informer magazine also. so look for that post.