my last statement was a little tongue and cheek. however, my point is take a look at the non oc'd p4 chipsets ie 850 and the granite bay stuff. its running about 3500 stock! when cranked up, these chipsets can easily obtain 4500 and higher. yes something is wrong cause he should be around 2800. and yes the nforce amd boards are are nice, but no amd board at this point in time comes anywhere near the thruput that the top end p4 chipsets are producing especially when they are really cranked up.