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well having 1 stick means better speeds. and it just runs faster. unles you have a dual channel DDR board like Nforce2 or something 1 stick will always be better than two in the way you are talking. go 1x512.
 
n00bular said:
What are the benefits/drawbacks of having 1 stick of 512mb memory vs 2 sticks of 256?

when overclocking, if you have 2 sticks of ram and one can't o/c farther, the other one still has some head room... if you run one stick, there won't be that extra head room on one stick... same idea as o/c'ing a dualie...
 
Welp... I'd like to see someone post their performance numbers with 1 stick and 2 sticks in a DC setup.

I can't say I saw any difference. But then this is a FAQ answered at Anandtech re: nforce2.
 
hmm, thanks a lot for the responses. However, right now I'm running 2.4b 533fsb. I want to hit the highest fsb I can get w/o raising voltage. I plan on getting xms pc3500 and that will give me a lot of headroom. Do you guys think that running 2 sticks of 256mb pc3500 will make much diff on my oc?

Right now I can only afford 1 stick... I plan on getting another stick sometime in the future.
 
i don't understadn any of this 1 stick or 2 stuff . i get the part about havein betr chance of ocin w/ 1 stick but evry1 says 1 stick is faster how??! seems like two sticks would be like raid stripping and cutting tht latency in half and 1 stick would be like 1 huge hd. anybody get what i'm sayin?
 
nforce2 would be that raid.

2 regular sticks, would plain ol' 2 HDD's on 2 seperate IDE channels.

If both 1 stick and 2 sticks, run at same speed, than overall speed is the same. However, 99% of the time, sole stick will OC farther, than two sticks.
 
Imagine a 256 and a 512 stick both have a 50% chance fo o/c ing to a certain point. The system with 2 x 256 sticks only has a 25% chance of overclocking to the same point.

Now, a stick at 512 has a 50% chance, and the same company has a similar stick at 256 that has a 80% chance of o/c ing to the same point. Now the one with 2 x 256 sticks has a 64% chance of making it. It's more likely the first situation is the true one.
 
Originally posted by hitechjb1 [thread: Your dual channel knowledge here]


1. For current nforce2 dual channel, little or no advantage until AMD fsb is twice as fast as the memory speed (in the future ?).

For Intel P4 chip set, since fsb is twice as fast as memory speed, minus some overhead in the memory controller, the effective bandwidth is about 70-80% of dual channel bandwidth, (guessing some what here, have to look up for details). It is clear 2 modules in dual channel should be used whenever possible.

2. Overclocking memory module(s) vs dual channel vs bank interleaving

IMHO,
one single bank memory module, can clock few MHz higher than
one double bank memory module, can clock few MHz higher than
two modules in single channel mode, can clock few MHz higher than
two moudles in dual channel mode

For AMD nfoce2, I found that for two memory modules, putting in as dual channel (dimm1+dimm3 for A7N8X) cannot be clocked as high as putting them in as non-dual channel (dimm1+dimm2), by a few MHz. (This does not mean the dual channel is slower in nature, actually should deliver almost twice the bandwidth. I suspect it is due to the current memory controller implementation, driver, ..., in a way that the fsb is lacking in dual channel SYNC mode. Exact reasons TBD, it is unknown to me???) ANY DIFFERENT OPINION ON THIS ??

So for AMD MB, the few MHz gain by overclocking a single memory module along that line translates into higher memory bandwidth and 3D performance and outweighs the intrinsic advantages for dual channel and multi-bank memory modules.

Dual channel, pro: the double memory bandwidth minus some overhead loss (if the fsb can use it as in P4), and also the speculative prefetch cache in the NF2 memory controller.

Bank interleave using 1 or 2 modules, pro: to reduce RAS overhead when read/write large blocks/pages of data that cross over memory banks, as in video applications

This is just a tradeoff between the performance gain in overclocking (say 5-10 MHz), and the few % performance gain from dual channel (AMD NF2) and bank interleaving. It seems to me that the MHz gain by overclocking has a slight edge over the dual channel/bank interleaving for AMD MB (exclude the NF2 version that has integrated video).

But if for non-overclockers or like manufacturers who run at a fixed frequency, then using two modules in dual channel and bank interleaving will clearly get the advantages mentioned above.

Again, for Intel P4, it is clear that using two modules win.

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4. 256MB vs 512 MB vs 1GB

Currently, most modules are using 32Mx8 = 256 Mb DRAM chips, regardless of speed (6ns, 5 ns or 4.5 ns).

1 module with 1 bank overclocks the highest, currently it is 256 MB. But 256 MB is usually not enough to run smoothly in XP (too much paging).

256 MB = 1 bank in 1 module (which contains 8 chips on 1 side (nonECC), (9 chips for ECC module))
512 MB = 2 banks in 1 module (which contains 16 chips on 2 sides (nonECC), (18 chips for ECC module))

If you want 512 MB total, two choices:
2 modules 256 MB (1 bank/module) ---- prefer for Intel P4 for dual channel advantage
1 module 512 MB (2 bank) ---- prefer for AMD since dual channel no advantage yet !!!

If you want 1 GB total, you have to get 2 modules of 512 MB (no choice)

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