T-Bird or Palamino

[westhoops04]

Okay, heres the skinny. Right now, in my personal computer, I have an ECS K7S6A with a palamino 1700+ AGOIA. I dont really feel like overclocking this one, i dont know why. But in my sisters computer, she has an ECS K7VMM and a AYHJA 1.33 GHZ. I know the AYJHA's are very overclockable and was wondering if just having this cpu sitting in a mobo with NO ocing ability is a waste. Would this t-Bird clocked to like 1.6 outpreform the 1700+? Or should i just keep it the same. The cooling system in mine can handle a lot. I have exhaust fans (2 80 MM) and a Thermoengine with a Delta on top.

[jonspd]

The pally will outperform if you ask me. I dont think you would be able to overclock a 1ghz tbired to 1.6 anyway.

[westhoops04]

its not a 1ghz, its a 1.333, my sig is out of date,

[adelphia83]

Your Pally when overclocked will FAR outperform any T-bird.

It's very unlikely that any T-bird will achieve the same speeds of your 1700+ Palomino.

The AGOIA which you have is the most overclockable Palomino to date. That being said, you should be able to get another 200mhz or so out of it with decent cooling and voltage.

The problem is, pally's have locked multipliers, so unless you want to unlock it (a fairly difficult process), you have to do the best you can by raising the FSB. Do so until the processor becomes unstable at a voltage that will allow the CPU to attain decent temps. Then back the fsb off a little, and you should have a rock-solid processor, running significantly faster than your stock speeds.

Good Luck!

[KeeperOfSecrets]

unlocking a pally shouldn't be that hard from what ive read......just crayon the L1 pits and join the dots w/ rear window defogger reapair stuff. Check sticky at the top of this forum for more info.

[Wheelspinner]

I have a Tbird 1400 (see sig)

best I can do without upping any voltages (its at 1.81 already accordin to MBM5 5.3.0.0),and keeping my PCI stuff in Spec is 9.5x167 = 1585 ~40c idle, ~50 100% load (prime95 for over an hour)

@166FSB it only boots @, 9x, 9.5x (cant get 8.5x which I'd prefer)

According to Sisoft Sandra 2003 my Tbird at 9.5x166 is roughly equal in CPU tests to an XP1800+


Athlon XP 1800+ 1.53GHz 256 L2 cache


CPU arithmetic Benchmark
Dhrystone ALU - 4410 mips
Whetstone FPU - 2361 mflops

CPU Multi-Media Bencmark
Integer aEMMX/aSSE - 9120 it/s
Floating-Point aSSE - 9120 it/s


At 9.5x166 mine does

CPU arithmetic Benchmark
Dhrystone ALU - 4443 mips
Whetstone FPU - 2351 mflops

CPU Multi-Media Bencmark
Integer aEMMX/aSSE - 8674 it/s
Floating-Point aE 3DNow! - 10377 it/s

[v8440]

I was able to get a Tbird 1.33 to 1632, but that was watercooled (koolance) with STUPID voltage-like 2.25 or so. It wasn't really practical to run at that speed, so I backed off to the low-mid 1500's. Even at the highest speed I had it at, it probably wasn't as fast as an XP 1700 at default speed. As I understand it, at least when the 1700's came out, they were rated against what an equivalently-clocked Tbird should do. If that's the case, then obviously a 1700 at stock speed would outperform my overclocked 1.33 Tbird. That's my take on it anyway.