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Has anyone had a problem getting the new 1700 tbred's (DLT3C) from excaliber to run @ 1.8 volts. I cant even get windows to load @ 1.75 no matter what speed I have the cpu running. I"am burning it in right now @ 1.7v @ 600mhz. But as I said I couldn't get this thing to boot @ anything more the 1.7. I'am hoping the burn-in will help be get some more voltage headroom.
What do you guy's think?
Emericana
03-24-03, 07:09 PM
i dont know if too many ppl can help ya cause these chips are so new.... however it seems that most people cause run at 1.8v so you may have a bad chip? maybe its a prob w/ your mobo cause the 8rda has a ton of instability probs
Well all I can say is I hope this thing will do 2.5 @ 1.7 volts or else ******()()()()()()). hehe
O well maybe after the burn it will handle 1.8
lazyart
03-24-03, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by Emericana
maybe its a prob w/ your mobo cause the 8rda has a ton of instability probs
Ummmmm...I wouldnt say that (yes, I know.. personal experience.. i base my comment on the same).
But, I have read here that the "miracle chip" doesnt tolerate high voltage well.
well I hoping that 1.725 isn't the highiest voltage I will get outta this sucker.
i have heard a lot of comments about the chip not handling high voltages well, but i have also heard people saying they got theirs to 2.5 at under 1.8v soooooo good luck..
P.S. mine comes tomorrow and i cant wait! :clap:
I hear ya but I just hate the 24- 48 hour period of not nowing while burning @ 600mhz.
bump
I can load window's @ 1.75 but not 1.775 and prime will only run @ 1.725.
D*** this sucks.
Easy now if the chip refused to run aything higher 1.725v then plz reconsider and not trying to push it higher. AS it can be dager and damage the chip. You want you have it last little longer dont you??
ANyway, thats a very good overclocking. :D
MameXP
Twister
03-25-03, 06:00 AM
I know your conditioning the chip at this time, but have you taken a peek just to see how high it would clock at that voltage ? I don't have your patience to wait out a full burn in to find out. I know your looking for that chip to do better than your 2100+ and I'm waiting for your post.
Good luck !!!!
Looks like this thing want be doing much more the 2.3.
Reason it takes 1.68 volts to do 2.2 so I think I'am FU****. Unless the burn in will give me some headroom on my voltage. I cant use more then 1.725 volts on the chip without getting a prime error.
I do Know that the As3 takes about 72 hours to cure so maybe that will give me some cooling but right know@ 2.2 with 1.68 volts temps are about 44c @ full load.
Twister
03-25-03, 12:25 PM
Hey Jonspd,
We both know 2.3 is a great overclock speed by most standards and most people would be turning cartwheels in the streets. However you have "been there ,done than" and expectations for this chip is to hit 2.4-- 2.6. Lets cross our fingers and hope the burn in will help.
Pullin' for YA !
LOL tks man
Yes I agree 2.2 from a 1.47 cpu is a pretty good overclock so I guess we will just have to wait and see.
Mine comes tomorrow too, i hope 1.7v isnt the most that that this chip can handle. Right now i hope that it will get up to 2.4 but if 2.2-2.3 is all it can get then i guess i can live with that. Ill post some results tomorrow if i have time to get it up and running. I cant wait.
on my cpu 1.85V is the most it can handle. it's not stable @ any speed if use voltage greater than 1.85V.
But I managed to get 2.5ghz on air cooling @ 1.85.
This just sucks anything above 1.675 volts prime want run. Anything above 1.75 volts I get the blue screen of death!!! I have had it to 2255mhz but was unstable 2200 was stable. D*** I thing I got the wrong cpu hehe O well 2.2 from 1.47 is still a pertty good overclock just not what I was looking for. If this thing dont hit 2.4 stable I'am putting it up for sale in the classified and going to either use my 2100 or get another 2100.
I wish my chip would do 2.4 @ 1.75V!
Heck, it can barely do 2.2GHz at that vcore. Think about how I feel... paying $150 and expecting 2.66GHz out of it....
I'm going to wait a little while. The way it looks now, people are getting 2.4-2.5GHz out of the new AIUHB DLT3C 1700+s. Let AMD refine the process some more and these things will do 2.8GHz at stock voltage! :clap:
(Hey, they have to do something to draw the overclocking community away from the multiple VID P4s! :burn: )
Twister
03-25-03, 07:41 PM
It's a waiting game. Lets see what the next batch of 1600's with the next stepping produces or will AMD give us a new steppin on the 2100's ?
1700 is being phased out--how long you want to wait? :rolleyes:
Twister
03-25-03, 09:43 PM
The next processor that gives me a reasonable excuse to replace my month old 2100+ T-Bred, which OC's stable at 2350- 2450 depending on how much voltage I'm willing to put through it.
I was hoping this stepping of the 1700+ would do it. I already have a 1700 DUTC3 0307 that will do 2200mhz. I'll wait for the next lates and greatest. Thats why I'm PROUD TO AN OVERCLOCKER:cool:
Well I have one thing to say!!!
I really dont fell like putting my 2100 back in just yet but it looks like I will this weekend. But then again who knows 2.25 is still about a 800 mhz overclock for a 1700.
I hope mine does better then that, but it's also from excailberpc (ordered earlier today). I suppose I'd be happy at 2300 (which is roughly 2900+ PR, right?)
waver123
03-26-03, 12:53 AM
Strange I've no problems running both my JIUHB @ 1.8v, they both overclock pretty much the same except one seems slightly cooler than the other, both of them do about 2400-2440 @ 1.8v. I didn't push them much higher since the temp is getting pretty high. One of them I did try 1.825v and it posts and run prime95 without problems.
tediber
03-26-03, 10:27 AM
maybe you need to reseat your HSF and new coat of AS3
Originally posted by tediber
maybe you need to reseat your HSF and new coat of AS3
I dont think the heatsink is going to effect the fact this cpu cant handle anything more then 1.7 volts.
Twister
03-26-03, 07:21 PM
I also left the 1700+ DUT3C 0307 in my system for a week trying to squeeze some extra mhz out of it. It was actually alot of fun and the best I could get it to run STABLE was 2185 with 1.90. It would go higher but not complete all the benchmarks. A 715mhz oc is still nothing to turn up your nose at for a $60 processor. The bad news was that 4 days after I recieved that chip , the next stepping of the 1700+ was released at Excaliber with talk of
2500 mhz . Oh well........No guarantee on speed and " It is what it is ". Put my 2100 B back on board.
Well I agree totally 2.2 stable out of a 1.47 isn't bad @ all but I'am looking for something that will give me 2.4-2.5 stable for my new system I have completlly moded my mobo and my ram stops @ 212 so all I need now is a 2100 or 1700 that will do 2.5.
O well I'am ordering a 2100 from newegg to see what I can get out of it I guess this will never end LOL.
Twister
03-26-03, 10:57 PM
End ? What end ? Theres no such thing as END !! Unless AMD follows Intel . I read a thread where Intel is seeking a patten to have the chip shut down if it senses an overclock, or something to that effect ! How SICK AND INSECURE can a company get !!
Anyway, I think the chances of hitting those speed are greater with the 1700's, at this current time. Maybe more on average with the next wk 09 batch ? If they release that stepping on the 2100's the chances might be even greater without going to watercooling. My 2100 0250 came from Newegg and has hit those marks but not stable with air. The 17 came from Excaliber.
I've got more time than money and will wait to see what gets released next before I jump back in the race.
You were just the victim of a bad ,can't really call it that at 2.2, or better, not meeting expectation, processor.
Yes I just think that its kinda funny that a downgraded 2100 from 2600 will out preform a downgraded 1700 from 2800. But like he said bad not bad @ all 700+ mhz overclock i dont think anyone in there right mind would consider that a bad overclock. Maybe not the best but then again how wants the best. Not me I just want the best bang for the buck.
I think I'll wait for AMD to release a really great stepping of the barton and make some 2500+s out of it, or wait for the 90nm barton. Right now it's too early to anticipate either, and buying another tbred would be a waste of money.
Unless, of course, the 1800+ AUIGA in the other system died. It already is chipped in three places, two corners and one area on the right edge, but still works fine at 2GHz, 1.97v. No anomalies at all. Just being very careful...
And yes, I'd like to see how the 1600+s pan out. I predict they will do about as well as the AUICB/GBs. Maybe 2GHz at 1.7 or 1.75v, and 2.2GHz at 1.95v.
MarMacMan
04-18-03, 07:45 PM
I have a hard time believing that there is going to be a 90nm Barton. Why would they do that when they have the Hammer coming out using the same process. AMD is going to want to differentiate the Barton from the Hammer as much as possible.
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