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flipflop
03-25-03, 05:19 PM
I´m planning run this memory with an nf7-s rev 1.2 or epox 8rda+ ( Who is the best? ). The price is the same (twinmos is more cheap). Help me to decide! :D

NeverSleeps
03-26-03, 07:59 AM
Abit NF7-S with HiperX 3500.

I currently running Abit NF7-S 1.2 with 2x 256 sticks of Corsair 3200LL TwinX.

Rock Stable @ 210 Dual Channel SYNC with 6-2-2-2 @ 2.7v unmodded board. Got the RAM yesterday.

Good luck on whatever decision you make.

XJ
03-26-03, 08:17 AM
wont the twinmos give him more headroom?

NeverSleeps
03-26-03, 08:20 AM
I have seen mixed results with the twinmos 3700

XJ
03-26-03, 08:26 AM
elaborate.

sirtoby
03-26-03, 08:44 AM
I'd go with Twinmos..

NeverSleeps
03-26-03, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by XJ
elaborate.

check this out Link (http://www.aoaforums.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=15923&highlight=Twinmos+PC3700)

nunez1980
03-26-03, 12:51 PM
I got the twinmos and it could do 234@4-2-2-2 with 3v on asus a7n8x

Cúchulainn
03-26-03, 08:02 PM
Well, I just got the twinmos pc3700 in today and I think I'm seeing the same problem reported in that link above at aoa :rolleyes:Tossed it in and couldn't get it to do any more than 166fsb. Didn't have a heck of a lot of time to play around with it though since I need the machine tonight. But I did try voltages above 2.7 and all sorts of lame timings with no success. Just a black screen after saving bios. Have to note down the codes it was hanging on later.

Zuerst
03-26-03, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by nunez1980
I got the twinmos and it could do 234@4-2-2-2 with 3v on asus a7n8x

How? Doesn't the Asus A7N8X bus only go to 211mhz?

nunez1980
03-26-03, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by Zuerst


How? Doesn't the Asus A7N8X bus only go to 211mhz?

211mhz is for early bios only

well my board came with bios 102.a and it goes up to 250mhz:D

gokickrocks
03-26-03, 11:37 PM
im happy with my hyperx on a nf7s rev1.0 (i fried my 1.2)...

does 230 sync @ 2.0-2-2-4 2.7v stable

specific
03-26-03, 11:47 PM
I'll get my twinmos friday. I had some issues with my corsair 3200LL. But a new bios changed all that, so i don't anticipate having any problems with the 3700. I just hope i don't have to get a nb block.

Zuerst
03-27-03, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by nunez1980


211mhz is for early bios only

well my board came with bios 102.a and it goes up to 250mhz:D

Do you know if NewEgg ships N7A8X Deluxe with 102.a now?

oo_7
03-27-03, 03:32 PM
TwinMos is good, ONLY if it has TwinMos Chips on the Brick. They sometimes use cheaper Chips and they are not good for OCing. I have TwinMos with Winbond chips and its OK. But am going to be getting 512Mb of PC3200 TwinMos (with TwinMos Chips) tomorrow.
This was told to me by one of the guys at the shop where i got my Nf7-s.

flipflop
03-27-03, 05:07 PM
Thanks for the answers! :D

Now I´ll get the abit nf7-s. But I still confused about the memory.... HyperX pc3500, twinmos pc3700 or corsair XMS pc3500????:(

Aviator747
03-27-03, 05:59 PM
I am having the same dilema.

Is twinmos that much better or as good as corsair xms? Does twinmos come with a heat spreader?

nunez1980
03-27-03, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by Aviator747
I am having the same dilema.

Is twinmos that much better or as good as corsair xms? Does twinmos come with a heat spreader?

no, they don't come with heat spreders;)

flipflop
03-27-03, 09:20 PM
PLEASE HELP ME! :rolleyes:

:D

Aviator747
03-27-03, 10:37 PM
This a good thing or a bad thing? Especially with the speed & voltages people are pushing. I would think its bad.

flipflop
03-27-03, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by Aviator747
This a good thing or a bad thing? Especially with the speed & voltages people are pushing. I would think its bad.

bad thing... high fsb = more heat dissipation

nunez1980
03-27-03, 10:58 PM
they work fine without heat spreaders, but it won't hurt,most of the time is just for show and looks, but just in case I got some on mine, can't see a difference:D

wicktron
03-28-03, 01:05 AM
I'd go with the Kingston. If anything were to go wrong, I feel their service and support will come in handy.

nunez1980
03-28-03, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by wicktron
I'd go with the Kingston. If anything were to go wrong, I feel their service and support will come in handy.

well that is very important also, even the best memory have issues some times;)

Lonely Raven
03-28-03, 10:02 AM
Just to chime in...

I'm doing some testing on a Shuttle nForce2 SFF system, and
it's NOT liking my XMS-3500 memory much. With my Corsair XMS
I'm hitting a wall at 176FSB at 6-3-3-3 which is pretty sorry for
PC-3500.

I dropped a stick of PC-2700 Hyper-X in (that I got for an older
system) and the friggen Hyper-X is running at 186FSB 5-2-2-2
with all other things being equal!?!?!

I'm VERY pleased with the Hyper-X, and I'm upset that I have
to up the voltage on my XMS to keep up with it. I KNOW my
XMS is good because I've run it at 225FSB, but this current
system I'm working on has NO VDIMM adjustments. So for STOCK,
the Hyper-X in my mind just kicked the XMS arse.

I'm thinking about ordering some Twinmos just for comparisons
sake. But I'm worried I might get some of that lower end stuff
with the Winbond chips rather then the higher end stuff with
the Twinmos chips like the previous posters said.

Overall, each stick of memory you're looking at is KILLER. But
bang for your buck, I'm VERY happy with the Hyper-X, and from
what I'm reading, I think you'll be very happy with the Twinmos
too, especially at the meager price they are asking for it.

My last resort memory would be OCZ. I know they have had some
problems in the past, and I was right there in the middle of it
when they had some polital and ethical issues that scared
people away from them...but in all honestly, every stick of OCZ
PC-2700 that I've picked up and used in a system for friends
has run at PC-3200 speeds or better with 5-2-2-2 timings like
it was no big deal.

All in all I see nothing but good memory out there right now, with
prices so low and quality so high. Just make sure you RESEARCH
the Latency Timing of whatever you buy *before* you get stuck
with it. Believe me, if I can't get high FSB on a system for any
reason, then have extremem LOW Latency makes ALL the
difference in the world!

XJ
03-28-03, 10:59 AM
rofl!!!
got my twinmos pc3700 in yesterday, and it boots into windows all the way through 190fsb. i haven't tried it any higher as of yet or with any torture program because i've been a bit busy. but when i crank it up i'll let y'all know...

sirtoby
03-28-03, 11:06 AM
The fact that they don't have heatspreders is not a bad thing. For one, it's been discussed whether they actually help or make things worse, secondly.. if they are left out it means that the sticks are supposed to run fine without them.

If you're worried you could buy some thirdparty heatspreaders and put them on, although it probably would be a waste of money.

nunez1980
03-28-03, 11:07 AM
and also be careful, in some cases it voids the warranty;)

Shadco
03-28-03, 12:54 PM
Skip the heat retainers they aren't worth it.

I have both Twinmos PC3200 and PC3700.

I can run the PC3200 at more aggressive timings stable up to about 225 dual/sync (4 2 2 2) in any of my Nforce2 boards. I have only tested the 3700 in an Abit NF7 1.2 and it doesn't like CAS 2 above 200 but will bench 3d apps stable at 230 dual sync (3 3 3 2.5) It 's bandwidth is about equal to the 3200 at 225. Me thinks we are really at the limit of the chipset in this range.

Me wishes me had a granite bay system cause methinks that is what it's gonna take to get more outta this ram.

Shad

XJ
03-28-03, 03:27 PM
shadco is that 230fsb cas2.5 i take it?

Diablo21ST
04-03-03, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by XJ
rofl!!!
got my twinmos pc3700 in yesterday, and it boots into windows all the way through 190fsb. i haven't tried it any higher as of yet or with any torture program because i've been a bit busy. but when i crank it up i'll let y'all know...

@192 FSB, my samsung 2700 can do that job! @Vdimm up to 2.9V it can go pass 192fsb.

XJ
04-04-03, 06:14 AM
t'is at 210fsb now....i must admit, i like this stuff.

kchip
04-04-03, 11:18 AM
Anyone tried the Twinmos 3700 8K3a? Im sitting on the sideline with thses NF2 boards , but wanted new memory. My 3700 should be in today.

Diablo21ST
04-04-03, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by kchip
Anyone tried the Twinmos 3700 8K3a? Im sitting on the sideline with thses NF2 boards , but wanted new memory. My 3700 should be in today.
I dont think so! 8K3A doesnt need that 3700! Waste money! PC3200 is the best for it!