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mattTheMan
05-04-03, 11:39 PM
I have two desktop computers. One is connected to the internet via sattelite, the other is just sitting off in a corner, all alone and un-connected. My goal is to have both computers networked together via wireless, and to have both computers able to access the internet. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to do this.

Both computers are running windows xp pro. Both computers have NIC.

I have lots of ether net cables, a NETGEAR 4 port wireless router/switch and a NETGEAR USB Wireless adaptor.

So here's the question: How in the world do I network these two comps together? I really have no idea what I'm doing, and I've heard from some people that it's more difficult to set up a network if your internet connection is through sattelite, because the sattelite modem card has a built in router or something like that...

so if you know how to help me, please do! Thanks,
Matt

PsYcO CyBrArIaN
05-05-03, 03:28 AM
Heres a picture in words, in know I mummble..
Primary comp hard line to switch, hardline to modem(satellite). Wireless NIC adapter on secondary comp to switch. All accessible, two comps wirelessly internetworked sharing the internet connection...in less words than necessary...

It sounds like you have everything youll need...

Kendan
05-05-03, 04:03 AM
How does the satelite connect to the computer it is hooked to now?

thorn
05-05-03, 04:20 AM
Try here (http://www.apet.net/satnetwork/)

mattTheMan
05-05-03, 07:52 PM
Thorn, thanks for the link, but that's a tutorial for win 98 and hard wiring, not wireless, and I couldn't figure out how to do it.

Kendan, the sattelite has a coax cable that comes down and goes into a card that's installed in the computer in a pci slot.

thorn
05-07-03, 10:57 AM
Maybe we can still get you going.

Who is your satellite provider?

RadRacer
05-08-03, 08:29 AM
First, you're going to want a wireless router. It'll cost you $30-60 depending on how good of one you want and how good of a deal you can get. I suggest keeping an eye on www.techbargains.com.

Second, You're going to need wireless access points for your machines. You can get several different types but depending on the locations of your machines to the router, you may need stronger ones. I suggest you avoid the ones that look like cards that appear to be notebook PCMCIA cards adapted to fit onto a PCI card.

It hooks up like this:

satellite -> router

Heh, thats it. The wireless cards will detect the satellite and function accordingly. I highly recommend all Linksys products above any other company. You may pay a slight premium for it in the long run, but the quality is most definately worth it.

thorn
05-08-03, 08:35 AM
I'd like to say it'd be that easy, but it's not. I've actually looked into it before. And, he already stated it's coming in to a PCI card in his PC so your proposed plan will not work with his system. And sharing satellite internet reliably isn't as simple as using ICS in most cases, either. Check out the dslreports.com forums for the real solutions. And it does depend on who your provider is.

Here is a link to the satellite forums on dslr:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/sat

also, check out their wireless networking forums while your there.

The link I pointed out to you above should be exactly the same (depending upon your provider) with wireless, but replace the hard NICs with wireless. You should only need 1 AP or Residential gateway hooked to your host machine (where the satellite goe in) and 1 client (could be USB, PCI, or PCMCIA they all work fine).

RadRacer
05-09-03, 08:55 AM
Ah, I was under the impression that satellites were as easy to use as cable modems. They aren't still on a dial-up uplink are they?

I have to be honest, I wasn't really impressed with satellite when it came out too much, and I haven't really followed it. How does it compare to cable and DSL nowadays?

thorn
05-09-03, 09:24 AM
Yeah, satellite is a little different.

It sucks, IMHO. The latency is really bad so that rules out any kind of gaming. Also, they all have what's called a Fair Access Policy (FAP) which basically only allows you to download so much then your connection slows to a crawl. If it was any good I would have it.

RadRacer
05-09-03, 09:26 AM
What are the transfer rates for it? I mean not like I'd ever buy it, I'm quite happy with my cable modem, but just so I can joke on it later on...:)

mattTheMan
05-12-03, 08:31 PM
Okay, I was completely confused. I have wireless line of sight internet, not sattelite. There's a big reciever on the top of my house that gets 802.11b signal from a big attena probably about half a mile away. So with that new information, does anyone know how I can share the connection?
Thanks

FunkDaMonkMan
05-13-03, 05:29 PM
:edit: i did this with true satellight internet. Now, i'm under the impression that your host computer has some sort of funky interface that it uses to connect to the internet, and that it cannot be plugged into a regular router. This is why i'm making you go through the host computer in these following steps. If you get your internet trough an ethernet cable (cat5e), your best bet is going with a router). :end edit:


I once faced this same problem, and here is how I did it.

I first networked all of the computers together.

for me it ment running wires to all of the computers, but you need to do this wirelessly(sp?). A simple wireless hub will do, because all you need to do is connect the computers.

Second, download Analog X proxy (http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/proxy.htm)

install the program ON THE COMPUTER WITH THE CONNECTION ONLY.

you now need to specify ip addresses.
find your network card, and click properties. then click the properties for your internet protocol (tcp/ip) then click "use the following ip address" and put in 192.168.1.101 for your host, and 192.168.1.102, 103, etc. for your clients.

then, go to the client computers and go to interent properties (if you are using IE)

Then go to connections > lan settings > advanced. (you may have to click "use a proxy" if it is not checked)
for http, put in the ip address of your host computer (the one w/ the sat modem) and the port is 1080, i believe. You do something similiar for all the other types, just follow the instructions given with analog x

make sure you enable analog x to start up with your host computer.... and your host computer will have to be running for the others to access the internet.

Hope this helps.