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ONE
05-10-03, 11:56 AM
Has anyone ever thought about or attemted to remove fans , set up motherboard with most stable water cooled overclock then vacuum seal the entire board. It could then be totally submerged in chilled coolant before proceeding with overcloking.
No air no condensation! I have worked out solutions for sealing around attatched cords......, all connections would be in vacuum seal.
Hows that for brain storming.........

gizxmo
05-10-03, 12:06 PM
you have verious sorts of heat dissapating from the motherboard so this will be a difficult task as the mosfets, the mosfet controller, nb,sb <mainly for those nforce2 owners create a lot of heat

ONE
05-10-03, 12:09 PM
I know it would require a large compressor to keep that much chilled, but I don't think it's impossible.

CrashOveride
05-10-03, 12:11 PM
i don think you could get a tight enouh seal to have NO air (so you would probably get condensation).

of course you could always just put the whole board in some really cool oil.. but that has many problems- if anyone whats to knwo them do a search there are many threads about it:D

ONE
05-10-03, 12:18 PM
A simple solution to achieve a tight seal................imagine two cup shaped caps facing each other, one being slightly smaller than the other. each cap has a hole in the center for the cords to pass thru, then when filled with electrical mastic and compressed, you're gauranteed a tight seal around your cords...all together.
Motherboard in a bag!!!

CrashOveride
05-10-03, 12:36 PM
but what ahbou5 the little air pockets under every resistor, in every pin slot of you cpu and along the contacts for all you PCI and AGP cards, ram etc.. whaqt abou thtose? (you could do them all with dielectric grease but i doubt that would work out well)

Excelsior
05-10-03, 12:47 PM
CrashOveride brings up very vaild points. It WOULD be impossible to get a PERFECT seal on it. The other thing is why would you bother to spend soo much? Just put peltiers on your northbridge and southbridge :D

ONE
05-10-03, 12:51 PM
I thought about that too, all resitors,capacitor and the like painted with brush on electrical tape(liquid non conductive-brush on)cpu socket under core would have to be completely filled with the brush on and all pins and socket filled with dielectric grease to leave no pockets for air to hide. The vacuum bag would have to be oversized enough to conform to all components without leaving air pockets.

CrashOveride
05-10-03, 12:54 PM
lol a pelt on your SB?!?!! i don tthink you woul dneed anything more than a passive HS...

ONE
05-10-03, 12:56 PM
I have an old pentium 150 collecting dust, I think I will have to experiment without sacrificing any valuable components..........

Excelsior
05-10-03, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by CrashOveride
lol a pelt on your SB?!?!! i don tthink you woul dneed anything more than a passive HS...

i know i was just messin around.. Heh well i DID see a pic of an air cooled 70 watt pelt on nb and sb

ONE
05-10-03, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by xX~EXCELSIOR~Xx
why would you bother to spend soo much? Just put peltiers on your northbridge and southbridge :D

I would consider it a low cost solution, not to mention quite. You can pick up a mini fridge or freezer pretty cheap...

SatanSkin
05-10-03, 03:13 PM
There are those infomercials for the home vaccum sealers for food and such things, you could try putting all the ram on the board then, use that to vaccum seal it. then try using the dielectric grease on the connections and submerge the mobo in a bucket full of water, then add dry ice and you would have one hell of a cool system. I'd be interested to know what kind of o/c you could get with that kind of setup.

CrashOveride
05-10-03, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by SatanSkin
There are those infomercials for the home vaccum sealers for food and such things, you could try putting all the ram on the board then, use that to vaccum seal it. then try using the dielectric grease on the connections and submerge the mobo in a bucket full of water, then add dry ice and you would have one hell of a cool system. I'd be interested to know what kind of o/c you could get with that kind of setup.

it woudlnt be worth the trouble IMO

ONE
05-10-03, 03:24 PM
Someone has to be a pioneer..........I think it has potiential, but I'm going to use the pentium 150 and then an old Celleron to perfect it.;)

Diggrr
05-10-03, 04:21 PM
gizxmo has the point that would lead you to failure.
All of the components (every single one) on the motherboard produce some heat, and are air cooled. My six power mosfets alone can put a cpu to shame.
In a vacuum, there'd be no heat transfer (even a non-pure vacuum like you propose) because there'd be little or no air to transfer it to.

I think the only way to seal your motherboard and still allow heat to transfer correctly would be to coat the whole darned thing in Arctic Alumina Adhesive. It wouldn't conduct, transfers heat, and keeps the water from the components. It would also make it impossible to change components.

We've discussed vacuum sealing before with much the same answers you'll see.

Now you could feasibly build a double walled jacket to place around your cpu package, and seal to the motherboard, and maybe even a slight vacuum between the walls. That would be as far as I'd try (even with someone else's computer).

DrSpanky
05-10-03, 04:40 PM
has any one seen them glue guns that take a cylinder stick of glue in the back and when you press the triger spuirts out liquid glue?

you could use of one them to total cover the mobo in glue any air would come to the top cause the glue it fairly heavy wouldnt that make a perfect seal?

and when u did it your could do it to everything grapics card ram and everything and submerge the lot



do u think that would work ?

if i can get a spare old psu, keyboard, mouse i could try it and the glue of course

i may seriouly try it only on a pentium 120 though

DrSpanky
05-10-03, 04:57 PM
ah i just had a look in that machine it isnt as broken as i thought it was the psu can be retorded with some work and insulating tabe

i just need a floppy drive and the glue

Excelsior
05-10-03, 05:24 PM
you dont NEED a floppy drive and yes we all know what youa re talkinga bout... a HOT GLUE GUN;)

samcim69
05-10-03, 05:28 PM
this is the wackest thread ive ever read :D

Excelsior
05-10-03, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by samcim69
this is the wackest thread ive ever read :D

obviously you havent read the urine thread;)

samcim69
05-10-03, 05:40 PM
urine thread??? wtf is that :D

samcim69
05-10-03, 05:44 PM
ok got it now sickkk or what ://////

Excelsior
05-10-03, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by samcim69
urine thread??? wtf is that :D

http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=119941

kevin_bouchard
05-10-03, 10:51 PM
Why do you guys always come up with the impractical things(but interesting none the least), :D , actually what you could do is put all the components into a sealed container, then put some of that material that takes the moisture out of the air(those drying pouches) wait a day or two, and the air in the closed container would be too dry to create condensation. That way you could have your evaporator or whatever cooling devices you wanted in there. Is this what you guys are talking about?


Hope this,

Kevin