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new_novice
05-13-03, 01:37 PM
http://games.tiscali.cz/clanek/screen.asp?id=3463
wow, I for once will not be playing this game without cheat codes... yep, a wuss I am but no sirree, can't play it like a normal person (but i'll play it on the hardest level :D)
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http://games.tiscali.cz/doom3video.htm
ffs...why couldn't they just leave out those flying heads :(
A major gamespoliler if you aske me....
new_novice
05-13-03, 01:51 PM
yeah, I do wish they'd keep something secret though.
...but I guess I could ignore some things to enjoy the rest of the game hehe
Gecedion
05-13-03, 02:04 PM
I'm sure there'll plenty of other things to make change your underwear.
Flashfx2
05-13-03, 02:41 PM
Is it just me or do those flying heads look really really bad. It's not even close to being an oval and the textures just look like crap IMO.
Yea..the Lost Souls ("flying heads") suck imho.. They should have at LEAST based it off the original look. It was much better.
I hope the imps make a return, and actually look like some hairy ape beast too, this seems like it is turning out a little too-much scifi from the screenshots I've seen.
I'm diggin' the guys who are crawling around on the ceilings!
Originally posted by Flashfx2
Is it just me or do those flying heads look really really bad. It's not even close to being an oval and the textures just look like crap IMO.
The game's not even released yet, and your're already saying the textures look like crap. :rolleyes:
I'll be waiting in line for this game :)
Edit: And I'll say it now: Alpha talk is not a welcome subject here. Keep it strictly to what's been released to the public legitametly
Zim2411
05-13-03, 05:41 PM
I WANT!!! But i need a new video card!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DAMN MY GEFORCE 4 MX! DAMN IT!!!!
Yeah, this one will definitely be on mah list!
funnyperson1
05-14-03, 01:04 PM
Wow, that looks good, and scary as hell.
DaveSauce
05-14-03, 01:50 PM
oihhh sweet sweet eye candy........:drool:*drool*:drool:
Half of those screenshots are from the previous E3.
The Lost souls do look like crap, they should have kept the horned skull from the orginal doom.
Mithrandir
05-14-03, 03:19 PM
Number 1 on my list,
I believe it's being released in November.
Ottoman
05-14-03, 03:28 PM
meh..
not that great...the old screenies looked better these new ones made it look worse...
but i'll prob play it anywho, just to see what all the hype is about...
but i think that other new soldier game comin on the cryo engine or whatever will be better than this
whooping_a_panda
05-14-03, 03:41 PM
personally i think doom 3 is overhyped, im not gonna expect much in the way of gameplay. Sure the atmosphere will make it scary in some places but its a space marine shoot em up fps AND it holds the doom name, how indepth of an original story can it have?
sure ill buy it but im not expecting anything more than unreal 2 with multiplayer with this one
funnyperson1
05-14-03, 04:12 PM
I think HL2 will be better. Maybe not graphically, but gameplay wise.
I'm not going to buy it for the deep rich dialogue or engrossing plot. If I want that, I'll play Splinter Cell. I'm buying this game because
a) It's being released by iD, so it's not going to suck
b) Mindless killing
c) To scare the crap out of me (/me is glad he bought his Sony headphones :))
d) 'cause it looks pretty.
It will be a phenominal game. I have no doubt about that. It will look and play great. I know this, 'cause it's being released by iD. Can any of you name a game that iD has released that sucks?
Originally posted by funnyperson1
I think HL2 will be better. Maybe not graphically, but gameplay wise.
I think your right. It scares me that all we hear about doom III concerns graphics. The only other thing we know about it, is that we get to have a PDA. Game play wise we know very little, and I think we would have heard something positive by now.
Originally posted by Oni
Can any of you name a game that iD has released that sucks?
Rescue rover :) http://www.idsoftware.com/games/vintage/rescuerover/
But I agree with you, no matter what the game is most likely going to be really really good and will probably set some new revenue records for ID.
To be honest I really didn't enjoy the first quake game, and while 2 was OK it wasn't exactly interesting holding either.
Quake III arena is just well.. Blast people to hell. ID doesn't make games. They make engines. That's how a friend has convinced me to see it anyway
This whole mentality that Carmack is some sort of demi-god and ID is infallable is ...well, rediculous. I have been a loyal ID customer for many years. I have Quake 1,2,3, Ultimate DOOM, DOOM ][, Wolfenstein (they worked on it at least) and Return to Castle Wolfenstein. They all had appealing aspects to them but DOOM has always remained my favorite. I just think it's kind of pathetic people worship the company to the extent they do. One mans trash is another mans treasure and all that aside, I guess maybe I am too analytical about things. I don't care whos name is on it anymore...except for maybe Microsoft.. Other than that, if it's good, and it's better than something for the same price I'll buy it. That goes for hardware and games and anything else to do with my PC. Nothing wrong with a little loyalty, but sometimes I have to sit back and shake my head.
I also don't like this double standard that pops up whenever the public gets screenshots, or betas/alphas for games that aren't out yet.. If we have the right to say "this r0x0rz me!" then we also have the right to be dissapointed in the product, it's really a black and white issue.
My concern with DOOM 3 is simple. They said it's going to have story, so I am going to expect a story. I don't like the idea of them completely changing familiar characters around (ala Lost Souls) however that is merely a secondary concern. Graphics take a very far seat in the back as far as I am concerned. I want the story that we are supposed to get - and I want PLAY TIME, and replay value. I want something to scare my balls off, make me afraid to play in the dark and that will invoke physical reaction. I want the original experience I got with DOOM (that only half-life has been able to match)
I don't want some rinky dink 5 hour game, or a tech-demo. I want a game. Something that the FPS comminuty has just been lacking in the purest of senses lately.
Originally posted by Oni
Can any of you name a game that iD has released that sucks?
Q3A
/me Pukes
after watching the trailer, it seems to me they ripped off a lot from half-life...
I can agree with you all that the game looks good.. but seriously doesnt it remind you to much of Resident evil ? ive played all the versions of R-Evil an somehow it just reminds me of it ? ... anyone else see the link ?
Just read this: http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/doom3/news_6027989.html
The quote that made me shudder was this:
When asked how long the game would be, Carmack wouldn't commit to a specific length but said that he favors the recent trend in the game industry toward shorter games with richer, deeper content packed into the duration.
I thinks it unreal (pun intended) that he would think people like short games. I guess it won't matter if the random level generator is included but still I don't like short games.
For the love of god, let that not be true......You'd have to be assinine to seriously beleive people will pay you $50 + for a 2 minute game because it has "1337 3D Gr4phiocs"
That is to say, real people outside of the hardcore/fanboy crowd
TollPhree
05-15-03, 06:03 AM
Originally posted by Ottoman
meh..
not that great...the old screenies looked better these new ones made it look worse...
but i'll prob play it anywho, just to see what all the hype is about...
but i think that other new soldier game comin on the cryo engine or whatever will be better than this
I think ur saying that trying sound cool.
Well... I HAVE'nt... played it.. repeat.. HAVE 'nt played it =P
its awsome looking, and very scarry type of game. I can play clock tower/ sielte hill with out a flincht.. but this game rocks. Anyone who says its ugly or stupid, has never played a vidoe game befor. Oh well people claim starcraft sucks. and that counter strike is no fun. The numbers will speak for it.
ANYHOO.. the only game that will reivel this in teck. is half life 2. From what ive read it will blow games apart that are on the market now
Originally posted by BigRed
Q3A
/me Pukes
:eek:
Best. Game. EVAR!!
Stumpjumper5200
05-15-03, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by Neco
Yea..the Lost Souls ("flying heads") suck imho.. They should have at LEAST based it off the original look. It was much better.
I hope the imps make a return, and actually look like some hairy ape beast too, this seems like it is turning out a little too-much scifi from the screenshots I've seen.
The imps are back already. They're the ones that throw the fire and have all those little eyes on their head. Those things freak me out.
Imps! Woohoo!
My favourite = Cyberdemon :)
Originally posted by Oni
:eek:
Best. Game. EVAR!!
The q3a engine is the best so far and made some high quality games but the orginal q3a was a piece of garbage IMO ;)
snyper1982
05-15-03, 10:50 AM
is it just me or does anyone else think this game is going to be a HUGE let down? dont get me wrong i am GOING to get it, but mostly just for its visuals, not because i think its going to be a good game. by the way, the matrix reloaded was a HUGE let down as well.
McWarren
05-15-03, 11:03 AM
You know how they have 'mind your step' signs before a set of steps you're not expecting? You should do that with comments on a film that hasn't even been released in many countries yet.
snyper1982
05-15-03, 11:13 AM
what are you talking about? i was giving my opinion on a movie, i didnt give away ANY of the plot or anything. i didnt know it was against the rules to post a comment about a movie.
McWarren
05-15-03, 11:30 AM
Because my opinion may be influenced. I could have walked in there, saw the movie, and then come out of it having formed my own opinion. Instead of watching and enjoying it, I'll be watching it, too busy thinking whether this movie really does suck, or whether I should rebel and say it's good.
And this has what to do w/ Doom III?
snyper1982
05-15-03, 11:43 AM
lol. dude, its a movie, you shouldnt be thinking about what someone else said about it. if you are that easily influenced, then the internet is not the place for you. its my opinion on the movie, there were plenty of other people in there that were very satisfied with the movie, but i wasnt, thats all. even though i didnt think it was great, i would watch it again, because it had such spectacular visuals. besides, dont you read movie reviews before you watch a movie, or read reviews of games before you buy them? come on, i gave my opinion about it, take it for what its worth, everyone has their own taste, mine may be completely different from yours. good point oni, i gave my opinion on that a couple posts up. :)
McWarren
05-15-03, 12:58 PM
OK well I don't want to take this thread off topic any more, so we'll just have to agree to disagree.
DaveSauce
05-15-03, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Oni
And this has what to do w/ Doom III?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
anyway, BACK ON SUBJECT.....
Quake III arena is just well.. Blast people to hell. ID doesn't make games. They make engines. That's how a friend has convinced me to see it anyway
that's how I see it. Camrack has said that Doom III will NOT have revolutionary gameplay, NOT have revolutionary AI, NOT have revolutionary plot. It's a damn engine when it boils down to it. It's Doom, but with better graphics. That's it. The only reason it has a plot is so YOU have a reason to blast the demons [back] to hell.
Doom III is being created MAINLY so game makers have a new engine to work with. I'm fairly certain that everyone is getting tired of the Quake III engine....and I bet id is getting tired of liscensing it out, heh.
The only gameplay in Doom III will be first picking up a gun, and second blasting demons with said gun. Rinse and repeat.
if you are expecting an involving plot with interesting characters, then you had better find a different game....
I'm not saying it won't be fun. Serious Sam was fun. it's old school fun.....just mindlessly running around blasting everything you see and getting scared out of your wits.....
Flashfx2
05-15-03, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Oni
The game's not even released yet, and your're already saying the textures look like crap. :rolleyes:
Yes I am, why and shouldn't I? at hardocp's website on the doom 3 benches it says "John Carmack has described the demo we used as a random code drop from a recent build of DOOM 3 and he believes it to be representative of the final game in a performance sense." To me that sounds like the graphical end of the game is done.
And even if they do change, I'm talking about what they look like NOW. He posted about screenshots from E3 so I commented on them. What's so wrong with that? A lot of people are saying how cool they look so why not harp on them? I mean the game isn't done yet right?
Originally posted by DaveSauce
Doom III is being created MAINLY so game makers have a new engine to work with. I'm fairly certain that everyone is getting tired of the Quake III engine....and I bet id is getting tired of liscensing it out, heh.
Would you get tired of counting your paychecks? :rolleyes:
They are making it to get BIGGER paychecks to count :p
All that aside, if they simply said "This is our new engine and we just want to show what it can do" I wouldn't mind so much. But it has been mentioned that it's supposed to have some sort of story and things of that nature. As for the new imps (URK!).
In the end there will really be no way to tell until the game itself is out on shelves.. I'm not looking for a super long slugfest with dialogue every 3 steps, but if they can at LEAST put ourt something with 3 Episodes like the original I would be content that I got what I paid for.
Stumpjumper5200
05-15-03, 09:54 PM
I think DOOM3 is going with the Half-Life style of progression, where it's like one big continuous world.
I've also heard HL2 is going to be a LONG game. One site said "12 chapters about 3 to 4 hours each." I don't know about that, but we can hope! :D
OC Noob
05-16-03, 12:43 AM
How about you guys all buy it the first day, then tell me if its good or not:D
Originally posted by OC Noob
How about you guys all buy it the first day, then tell me if its good or not:D
I will :D
Originally posted by OC Noob
How about you guys all buy it the first day, then tell me if its good or not:D
I've already told my supervisor that I'm going to be sick that day ;)
Mr.DLucey
05-16-03, 06:56 PM
I have all ready reserved my copy, you should too. Five dollars down and you know you you have it on release day.
GJ new_novice good find thanks for the info.
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