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elfkilla
01-10-01, 03:05 AM
I have a 1200 MHz t-bird processor that I wish to overclock... Is this possible or will it burn up my PC or anything :)? I've heard that they are allready clocked as much as possible when I got the cpu... But in case I can overclock it; how high can I set it to and do I need any extra fans? thx...
-Elfkilla

kat
01-10-01, 05:35 AM
hey guy welcome

to get you off to a good start go back to the main page and there is a guide to OC basic`s this should answer most of your question`s

good luck

tip on your next post give somore information about your system (mother board heatsink temps stuff like that

Vector
01-10-01, 08:49 AM
People have gotten 1.2GHz t-birds to 1500MHz and higher...but with some majorly kick-ass cooling----liquid nitrogen and whatnot...

I'd actually like to see what someone could get a total system up to (fsb, processor, graphics) if the entire motherboard was submerged in liquid helium (non-conductive stuff--very cool...frozen would be the correct term I think)

elfkilla
01-10-01, 12:44 PM
well, 1.5 GHz is FAST, but are there any way at all I can overclock it without any liquid helium, oxygen or nitrogen (etc)? I'm maybe willing to use 200$ on overrclocking, and something like you described costs AT LEAST 2000$... :)

-Elfkilla

Diversion
01-10-01, 12:51 PM
Your 1.2 ghz Tbird can EASILY go to 1300mhz with no problem... you should only see a few degrees hotter when you do this...

However, higher than 1300 is practically impossible from what i've read and heard .. The Tbird's are "capped" in a sense that 1300mhz is known to be the limit on a non-KT133a motherboard... now, if you were to wait and get one of these new KT133a motherboards, you could get to 1400+ easy...

C'mon, why overclock a 1.2ghz!? Is the computer slow or something? Haha.

Jay

maximus
01-10-01, 02:58 PM
I qould recommend the Globalwin FOP38 if you want to go with air cooling! This is by far the best solution on your socket processor, it even works for pentiums. They run about $25.

If you want to go with water cooling I recommend this website:
www.overclock-watercool.com
Their systems run you around $160-$200+
I would also recommend a good quality motherboard that is stable and reliable with lots of ov options. I recommend the Abit KT7 with or without RAID. You might also want to wait for the new Abit KT7A chipset which offers more oc options and a 266fsb! These will all perform well under extreme oc!
GOOD LUCK!!
Maximus:
athlon 1ghz @ 1.5ghz etc..

Rob Cork
01-10-01, 03:17 PM
elfkilla (Jan 10, 2001 03:06 a.m.):
I have a 1200 MHz t-bird processor that I wish to overclock... Is this possible or will it burn up my PC or anything :)? I've heard that they are allready clocked as much as possible when I got the cpu... But in case I can overclock it; how high can I set it to and do I need any extra fans? thx...
-Elfkilla

You will need extra fans for sure - good case cooling is a must. One 120mm fan intake and one exhaust should do it. The globalwin FOP38 mentioned is very loud, so if that's a problem you might try the Alpha PEP66, or the Alpha PAL6035. Someone, I think it was Goku, was kicking around a link to a huge-ass swiftech hsf that looked like the best - I haven't seen any reviews, but it's designed to work on P4's as well, so it ought to be good: http://www.swiftnets.com/MC462.htm
Check out the 80mm fan on that motha - that's gotta cool like nothing else (except watercooling maybe :-) )

Goku
01-10-01, 04:47 PM
Yeah thats me whos doing it? so far im waiting on most of my parts. but the heat sink is kind of loud but not as loud as the globalWin FOP38 and its adjustable thruogh a rheostat its an extra 15.99 i think. You will aslo need a special motherboard to use it the link to the page is on this site.
http://www.swiftnets.com/MC462.htm

Rob Cork
01-10-01, 04:55 PM
Those holes on the mobo that the swiftech uses for mounting are part of the AMD specification for the socket 462 design, so all socket A boards should have them. I think it's just swiftech covering their backs when they say they've only tested it on the A7V and KT7. Which mobo do you have, elfkilla?

elfkilla
01-11-01, 02:20 PM
maximus (Jan 10, 2001 02:58 p.m.):
I qould recommend the Globalwin FOP38 if you want to go with air cooling! This is by far the best solution on your socket processor, it even works for pentiums. They run about $25.

If you want to go with water cooling I recommend this website:
www.overclock-watercool.com
Their systems run you around $160-$200+
I would also recommend a good quality motherboard that is stable and reliable with lots of ov options. I recommend the Abit KT7 with or without RAID. You might also want to wait for the new Abit KT7A chipset which offers more oc options and a 266fsb! These will all perform well under extreme oc!
GOOD LUCK!!
Maximus:
athlon 1ghz @ 1.5ghz etc..

Ok, I allready have an Abit KT7-raid motherboasrd for socket A CIAKT133,ATA/100, ATX (dunno what all of this really means tho). What more do I need now to overclock the pc to about 1,3-1,4 GHz and how much does it costs?

How fast is the bus on my motherboard? I have 256 mb original RAM, 133 MHz, and can I overclock them to or will that happen when I overclock my CPU? BTW: thx :)

-Elfkilla

Rob Cork
01-11-01, 03:39 PM
The bus on your mobo is 100MHz, and the cpu runs on a 'double pumped' DDR bus, effectively making it a 200MHz bus between the cpu and northbridge (the northbridge is part of the KT133 chipset). You can set the memory to run on an asynchronous bus (ie different speed to the main bus) - the option to choose for this in the KT7-R bios if you haven't already is HCLK+PCI CLK (ie host clk 100 plus pci clk 33 = 133MHz).

Can't remember whether anyone's mentioned the 'pencil trick' in this thread, so here's a few links:
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q3/000711/index.html and http://www.athlonoc.com/unlocking.htm
You need to do this if you want to be able to change the multiplier on your tbird, which you'll have to do to get the higher speeds.

To adjust the cpu speed, you need to set cpu frequency to 'user define' in the softmenu section of the bios. Then you will be able to change the fsb and cpu multiplier (assuming you have unlocked the chip). Try for 12.5x100 first. As that's the highest multiplier available, you'll then need to raise the fsb to overclock. Just keep raising it until the system becomes unstable. Raising the core voltage and the VI/O (the 3.3V) can help with overclocking, but it will raise temperatures. Try to keep around 45C, or at least 50C - up to 55-60 isn't really dangerous, but it's far from ideal. Hopefully this gives you enough info to get started - if you need any more help with bios settings or cooling, just post :-)

App
01-11-01, 03:59 PM
What does VIO mean?

Rob Cork
01-11-01, 04:00 PM
I think it stands for voltage In/Out - it's the voltage supplied to all your peripheral cards, like video and sound cards, and also to the memory.