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wannaoc
05-18-03, 01:56 PM
Just curious if I must have one or if it is just recomended for a DIY kit.

Diggrr
05-18-03, 02:16 PM
No, you don't have to run with a reservior.

Personally, since I've begun using one, I'll never go back.
Filling the system is as simple as pouring in the fluid, and starting it up.

You can get this ease with a reservior-less system, but I prefer not to take connections apart because it's a pain (3/8" tubing on 1/2" barbs) nor do I like adding tubing that I need to keep handy just to do a refill. I also don't like adding extra tubing to a system just to make bleeding the air easier using the submersion technique.

You don't have to run with one, but I wouldn't. That's just my taste. There are some sweet systems around that just use the T-line, and they work fine for them. Mine also ran pretty good after the 3 days it took to get all the air bubbles out. :p

ThePyro
05-18-03, 02:24 PM
as long as we're talking about resevoirs, diggr, do you have any reccomendations? something clear...cylindrical... i really like innovatek's creation (found here (http://www.highspeedpc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HSPC&Product_Code=Tank3&Category_Code=Tanks)) but the fittings are too small, and the thing is ridiculously expensive. alternatives?

Cutter
05-18-03, 02:33 PM
There is a thread about bending and rolling lexan somewhere around the front page of the watercooling page. you could roll some lexan over somethign the size you have in mind and epoxy it and you would have a nice round lexan RES I think I will try this and see waht happens.

jlin453
05-18-03, 02:38 PM
Space inside my case was an issue so I went with a T line instead.

wannaoc
05-18-03, 02:42 PM
I found this one that I will probably use because of space problems. http://www.voyeurmods.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=WC-RES-5

Cutter
05-18-03, 02:47 PM
These are pretty awesome and pretty cheap Pumps and tanks in one plus cool designs that glow in UV light

http://www.sysfx.net/cgi-bin/cart.exe?cat=Liquid%20Cooling&sub=Pumps

Diggrr
05-18-03, 02:48 PM
Shop around man. Big chain stores have their houswares and fish departments. And there's crafts stores too (kindof girly and smelly, but they got some cool stuff). Browse around and be creative. I've even seen some cool prospects on bird feeders (clear tubular acrylic, cheap).
If you find a cheaper plastic for the cylinder, put your barbs in the end sections that you add. You can use 1/4" thick plexyglass and tap it for barbs easily enough, or use a plastic epoxy.

My new reservior comes from Sam's club full of dry spaghetti, but it won't fit inside a case, it's 6" wide and a foot tall. Working on getting that up and running this week.


The sky's the limit!

*bay reserviors are cool looking too!

dagamore
05-18-03, 03:02 PM
you could make something like this
http://iupload.net/0422003/final_waterc123ooling.JPG

yes i know it is gettho but it works great, and it will blead out my system in like under a minute :D

arnoldma
05-18-03, 03:05 PM
would there be a problem with air if u have a resovoir?

and also do u have the pump under water in the resovoir, or connected stright to the resovior?


edit: whats does beeld system mean?

altec
05-18-03, 03:10 PM
One quick question also, Does anyone have a detailed pic of theit T line system? I kind of get the idea behind it, but I'm still not too sure how to set one up, and I am still deciding for or against the resovior. Thanks.

Diggrr
05-18-03, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by arnoldma
would there be a problem with air if u have a resovoir?

and also do u have the pump under water in the resovoir, or connected stright to the resovior?

edit: whats does beeld system mean?

Air is no problem with a reservior. The idea is to have a 'reserve' of water on hand to replace air bubbles that come out of the system.

It depends on your pump, wether you run it submerged in water or not. If you have a ViaAqua, you really should run it under the water in your reservior. If you have an Eheim pump, there's no need to.

Bleeding the system refers to displacing all the air in the tubing with water. Afterall, it is a watercooling system, not a bubble cooling system. Air in the lines can hinder waterflow especially if it collects at a fitting, and alot of bubbles can even prevent the waterblock from doing it's job.

A T-Line system can be seen all over the forums, buddy. Just use the search button at the top of the page. You can search the using the username "HOOT" along with "T-line", he's got an especially nice rig posted about a year ago. Nice setup, if his pictures are still up.

arnoldma
05-18-03, 03:41 PM
i think ill go with the resovoir anyway, u dont have bleed the system if you have a resovoir right?

T-line sound to complicated for me, and resovoir seems easy enough, just connect to the pump and off it goes.

Epox
05-18-03, 04:14 PM
Yeah, T-Lines are just as easy as making a Resivour, if not easier...

but Resiviours are better because you have allot more water than if you use a T-line system, more water can mean lower water temps which could mean lower CPU temps..

The_Punisher29
05-18-03, 04:21 PM
dagamore, did you ever though of doing a bong instead of having to add a heatercore ? And is it sillent ?!

GoingH2o
05-18-03, 07:09 PM
http://www.criticool.com/7accessories.html

That is what i have and i love it :D

The_Punisher29
05-18-03, 07:10 PM
looks sweet in deed but I like the DD one better :p

BigFloppyLlama
05-18-03, 07:55 PM
http://floppyllama.homestead.com/files/aqutube1.jpg
http://floppyllama.homestead.com/files/aqutube2.jpg
http://floppyllama.homestead.com/files/aqutube3.jpg
http://floppyllama.homestead.com/files/aqutube4.jpg
Theres my res. The thing about reservoirs is that they make filling and bleeding a little easier, but not much else is gained besides looks (and the possibility of adding ice into your loop:D) While a reservoir will add more water to the loop, it won't help cool it anymore than a "T". It will take longer to warm up, but they will eventually come out to the same temperature.

Cutter
05-18-03, 09:25 PM
I like it, how did you make it? You should submit that to the mainpage, maybe win a 100.00 bucks, looks real simple too.

Epox
05-18-03, 09:26 PM
He purchased the main unit then added those long extentions...

SiliconX
05-18-03, 10:03 PM
My first system used a T-Line. Now I use a D-Tek BayRes

I'll never go back to a non-resevoir system again. Like Diggrr said. Just plug it in and watch your system fill right up. Tap all the compoinents just to make sure every last bubble is gone, but generally, my system is completely full and no air within a minute

BigFloppyLlama
05-18-03, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by Epox
He purchased the main unit then added those long extentions...

Correct you are. Hopefully I can take a welding class this summer and perhaps make a reservoir with fins on the inside, and on the outside. Put some fans blowing on it and it could act like a small radiator.

Epox
05-18-03, 11:22 PM
A real man uses a cheap tupperwear container from the dollar store, for his reservoir.

dagamore
05-19-03, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by The_Punisher29
dagamore, did you ever though of doing a bong instead of having to add a heatercore ? And is it sillent ?!

1 I have already gone the bong route, and i dont like the sound of some one ****ing 24/7 in my room, a buddy said thats what my bong sounded like and now they all sound like that :(.

2 it is just about silent, all of the fans, only 2 (90mm at that) are runing 7 volts, and even with the cheap ass alu block, my water temp befor the blocks is just over room temp ~1 or 2 c, and after the block they are 10-15C over room temp, and the cpu stays about 20-25c over room temp with this cheap ass block :( but it stays under 48c with a mild over clock ~15% on an amd 2000+ at stock voltage.

all temps were from a digidoc 5 that i had in there for monitoring for a few days.

just a note when i get my new block, i plan on paint the res a dark green but that might be a while.

The_Punisher29
05-19-03, 09:09 PM
Because the PVC and the heatercore take much space on your rig :eek: Painting your reservoir is a good idea ideed :)

stereosteve99
05-20-03, 11:43 PM
If you have room the dtek clear bay res definetely is something to look at. Not only is it practical, but that would look sweet right under the cdrom or rheobus.