Duron supercooling and voltage...

[MiracleMan]

I've been read around the web about t-bird/duron doesn't getting any advantages with supercooling like pIII/celermines. But I want to know were they failed to do so. Or, the question in my problem, did I still need to voltage mod my A7V to get 1ghz+ stable, or when supercooled I will reach that speed with 1.85V?
I know, this vary a lot, with so many variants like maxed out cores, cheap PSU's, etc, but at the botton line, could it works? ???

[Deviant]

Supercooling does work with AMD chips, but not to the same extent as Intel ones. It seems that Durons & T-Birds will get close to their max speed with good air cooling, so super cooling isn't required.
The voltage mod will get you another 50-100 MHz higher, depending on how game you are. I have read of a few people taking theirs to 2.3v, but I have only taken mine ti 2.1.

[MiracleMan]

Hmm, it's sounds greate. When I struck with the 1.85V, go to the mod.
That's ok. I'm in the game to live or die! Oh, another question, did VIO setings really help, or leave it standart?
Right now I'm getting 750@945 1.85V, open case and 3 extra fans around the cheap cooler, 100% rock stable, but I don't like the 48/56C .

[proze]

my 118w pelt with h20 experiment on my duron wasn't a huge success. i've got much cooler temps (idles at about 7C or 8C) but didn't gain much in the way of mhz. i got pretty much up to my max with water-cooling. i haven't tried the voltage mod, but i'm sure that'd get me the few mhz i need to get a 100% overclock. one day when i have energy...

i do recommend active cooling on the northbridge and pll chip for the a7v. feel them after the computer's been on for a while and you'll see why.

[Tachyon]

I've noticed the heat from the Northbridge also. What gain do you get from active cooling of the chip (besides the obvious heat reduction)?

[proze]

well, you'll get an added bit of stability. cooling the northbridge and pll well eliminates two sources of problems (the hotter they are the more likely they are to give trouble) when you're overclocking your machine.

[MiracleMan]

Yes, it's true. Cooling the north bridge not only cool down your system, it give more stability. Just look at Abit KT7 north bridge and you will see it by default... ;P

[Tom]

Before you go super cooling or doing the voltage mod you need to get a better heatsink to lower those temps. Try an FOP-32 you just might hit 1ghz @1.85v that way.

[Rob Cork]

Check out the huge swiftech hsf - pricey but big, bet it performs like nothing else (just wish somebody'd review it so I know...). I bet that could handle the volt mod. Just practice soldering small things first if you can (or if you need to) - I 'practiced' on my motherboard trying to do the volt mod - my skills are better now, but desoldering that smd capacitor led to some interesting problems - just see my other posts :-) 2.2V - voltage mod rules!!!

oops forgot the link :-) http://www.swiftnets.com/MC462.htm

[MiracleMan]

Oh, no problem with new cooler, cause I have an 85W peltier+Alpha PEP66 rig from Tom Leufkens coming in 2 weeks (it's a loonng trip to Brazil :'( ).
I posted this topic because I was afraid with this purchase became a wasted money. ;)

[proze]

to be honest, i'd use the pep66 on its own with an amd chip. the 85W pelt won't be enough...

[MiracleMan]

Well, if I can reach room temp or a little closer( +-26C), I wiil be very happy ;) .
Yes, I know it's not a supercooling...