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vandersl
05-22-03, 10:56 PM
Just thought I'd share my experiences with this stuff.

Try#1) Bought 2X512MB PC3500 C2 stuff (C2-3-3-6) at Newegg. Everything ran fine at stock speeds (217FSB, spec timings) on an NF7-S 2.0. After about 8 days, one of the sticks seemed to loose a bank - boot up memory check crapped out at 768MB. RMA'd.

Try#2) The original stuff was out-of-stock, so I was shopping around. About that time, Newegg put up a listing for the new Geil Golden Dragon PC3500 (the new wafer-scale packaging version, very cool looking) with supposedly 'hand picked 4ns' chips. PC3500, C2-3-3-6. Was fairly cheap, and I like Newegg, so I gave it a go.

This new stuff won't pass P95 at 200MHz, C2-4-4-8, much less at stock speed and timing. Volts don't seem to help. Won't pass at 217MHz at SPD settings. Heck, won't even boot at 166MHz C2-2-2-6. These things are going back tomorrow, I just hope I can get my shipping costs back. If they try to stick me with a restocking fee on this crap, I'm gonna be very unhappy.

Anyway, from my angle the negative comments about Geil are on the money. Staying away from now on.

INGlewood78
05-23-03, 12:33 PM
Is the ram the dual channel kit version. I have the PC3500 (2x512) dual channel kit running on a NF7-S v.2.0 also. 1700+ DLT3C running @ 2.3 ghz (11.5x200). Your lucky to get past 200mhz!..My timings are 2.3.3.6 and I can't get this stuff to run stable over 200 with these timings! even @ 2.9v .Its suppose to run PC3500 speeds! GEIL has been an diappointment. Next time Ill stick with Corsair. I've heard that having a 1gb of ram or running dual channel will deminish its overclockability...but isnt this suppose to be a DUAL CHANNEL KIT???

vandersl
05-23-03, 02:49 PM
Yup, it's supposed to be PC3500 dual-channel.

Actually, the original sticks were OK - I was running 225FSB sync at 2-3-3-6. Till it died anyway.

It was the new stuff, supposedly also PC3500 2-3-3-6 dual channel that was the real let down. Wouldn't run at 433 even with 3-4-4-8 timings at 2.8V.

My advice is to stay away from the Geil stuff.

P.S. I have two 512MB PC3500 Winbond CH-5 sticks on their way now.

Peakr
05-23-03, 04:33 PM
Originally I bought 1 stick of geil 256 pc 3500, ran at 460mhz@ 2-7-3-3 with 3v. Awasome stuff. It had the copper heat spreader. I bought another 256 of the 3500 Ultra Platimum. They would not play at all together in my IT7. Both sticks would do 460mhz by themselves, but put both in and the board would not boot beyound 300mhz. A friend of mine bought 2-256sticks of geil 3500 ultra plantinum and they are running fine at 440 in his NF7 so I figured what the hell and bought 2 more sticks for my new IC7. Big mistake. The board wouldn't boot with the memory running faster than 360mhz dc. Sent it back and bought the XMS3500 from corsair. Running fine at 440mhz. I'm done with geil....

flapperhead
05-23-03, 06:21 PM
yep.. just read a revision on a review of pc3500.. This website went so far as to say do not buy geil. even tho their original review recommended it as a first choice..some kind of issues with the new chips...

ozziegn
05-23-03, 09:28 PM
great, this is perfect.

and here I just ordered 1GB of the Golden Dragon stuff.

good God, why do things only get worse and worse (for me at least) as time goes on. :(

Tedinde
05-24-03, 10:33 AM
I've had no problems with my platinum 3500 geil. Running stable @ 480 24/7.

I tried mixing the platinum with the copper heatspreader stuff on a dual channel board. It does not like it.

nycundaground
06-21-03, 10:57 PM
The Geil Golden Dragon PC3500 DC for me is pretty good. I can run 250mhz 1:1 divider fine. I have it at 2.93 volts. Anything higher is unstable. i think i might need a bit more voltage. But If my kingston or Twinmos can be stable at 250 mhz they can beat Geil.

eva2000
06-22-03, 04:29 AM
Originally posted by nycundaground
The Geil Golden Dragon PC3500 DC for me is pretty good. I can run 250mhz 1:1 divider fine. I have it at 2.93 volts. Anything higher is unstable. i think i might need a bit more voltage. But If my kingston or Twinmos can be stable at 250 mhz they can beat Geil. is your IC7-G vdimm modded ??