2.4c IC7 2x256 Buffalo

[jdmcnudgent]

i got my board today. rev 1.0. i flashed the latest bios, and im installing right now at 250, with the strap at 3:2 and the fastest timings. i will be back in this thread when i get her up and running. i did not do the volt mod yet, as i dont know where my soddering iron is, and it looks tough. be back soon.:D

[j2me_tech]

jd,

y not 5:4 divider?? :rolleyes: neway, good lucks. ;) :p

[krag]

Show us the OC bro!!:D

[Alphy]

Yea man, make us all proud!

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by j2me_tech
jd,

y not 5:4 divider?? :rolleyes: neway, good lucks. ;) :p im new to these dividers. im running windows update now, and then i will start rocking as soon as i have everything set up.:)

[Alphy]

Keep us updated!

[j2me_tech]

jd,

since that alot of ppl :bang head when they reach 275fsb, y dont u straight bump it to 276 & see??

neway, i'm using 5:4 divider until 287fsb, after that only i'll be using 3:2 divider. :p ;) :)

edited:
just saw your siggy updated. pc3700. :cool: i think u can run 5:4 divider all the way to 300fsb. :D

[flapperhead]

Im curious to see how high that buffalo memory will run at higher voltages...

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by j2me_tech
jd,

since that alot of ppl :bang head when they reach 275fsb, y dont u straight bump it to 276 & see??

neway, i'm using 5:4 divider until 287fsb, after that only i'll be using 3:2 divider.

edited:
just saw your siggy updated. pc3700. :cool: i think u can run 5:4 divider all the way to 300fsb. :D im tweaking.
http://jdmcnudgent.no-ip.info/280.jpg

[Alphy]

Very Very nice for H20 cooling...How far did you go with air btw?

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by Alphy
Very Very nice for H20 cooling...How far did you go with air btw? didnt try, and im at 290 right now.;)

[j2me_tech]

jd,

congrats..u didnt :bang head the 275fsb wall. :D neway cpu-z screenshot? :)

[texasfit]

Cheering you on JD. :clap:

Really curious to see how that Buf performs. :drool:

[micamica1217]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
didnt try, and im at 290 right now.;)

nice jd

now lets hit 300fsb...:D

mica

[jdmcnudgent]

not bad for ddr 387.:)
http://jdmcnudgent.no-ip.info/56.jpg

[krag]

Yeah brudda! Rock on dawg!!

[j2me_tech]

jd,

more, more, faster, faster!!:D :p ;)

btw, your vcore?

[micamica1217]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
not bad for ddr 387.:)
http://jdmcnudgent.no-ip.info/56.jpg

wooot, wooot...jd is kickn butt.

again, real nice jd

mica

[texasfit]

Quit stalling and strutt your stuff.

Change it to 5:4 and show us some DDR464 :D

[jdmcnudgent]

im gonna burn it in for a bit. i will tweak more later. i gotta get my kids rig switched over.:( what a pain in the a$$, a reinstall.
http://jdmcnudgent.no-ip.info/load.jpg

[j2me_tech]

no no noooo.. jd, change it to 5:4 divider 1st. ;) neway, u didnt answer me, vcore?:p

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by j2me_tech
no no noooo.. jd, change it to 5:4 divider 1st. ;) neway, u didnt answer me, vcore?:p 1.62 under load right now. ok, ok, ill try the 5:4, but i will have to slow the mem down, as i need the vmem mod to get the tight timings to stick. but ill give it a shot.;)

[texasfit]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
1.62 under load right now. ok, ok, ill try the 5:4, but i will have to slow the mem down, as i need the vmem mod to get the tight timings to stick. but ill give it a shot.;)

:clap: :clap: :beer: :clap: :clap:

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by j2me_tech
no no noooo.. jd, change it to 5:4 divider 1st. ;) neway, u didnt answer me, vcore?:p nooooooooooooooooo go for the 5:4, i tried everything. back to 295, and 3:2. im pleased with this system, for the moment, but i will definately have to do a vmem mod soon.;)

[j2me_tech]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
nooooooooooooooooo go for the 5:4, i tried everything. back to 295, and 3:2. im pleased with this system, for the moment, but i will definately have to do a vmem mod soon.;)

yeah, u'll need that vmem mod. :( so running burn in at 295fsb now?keep us posted. ;) :p

neway, :clap:

btw, what's the default vdimm for your buffalo?

[texasfit]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
nooooooooooooooooo go for the 5:4, i tried everything. back to 295, and 3:2. im pleased with this system, for the moment, but i will definately have to do a vmem mod soon.;)
The TwinMos PC3700 that I have will do DDR492 but only at timings of 2.5-3-3-7-2Tcommand @ 2.85vdimm. Was hoping the Buffallo was going to be better. :(

Keep trying for the 5:4 if you can though. Would love to see you hit high DDR. ;)

[batboy]

Try 291 FSB using the SPD timings (3,8,4,4) with the 5:4 ratio (DDR466). That's the RAM's specs. I wanna see if it can handle what it's rated for in dual channel. Please do this for me JD, I'm trying to decide what PC3700 to get and this will really help.

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1388

Buffalo uses Winbond BH-5 chips and TwinMOS uses TMD 4.3ns chips. I'm beginning to think Buffalo is not bad for the price, but if you want super fast RAM, better try TwinMOS. Wish someone would try Geil PC3700, that has 4.3ns chips too.

[j2me_tech]

Originally posted by texasfit

The TwinMos PC3700 that I have will do DDR492 but only at timings of 2.5-3-3-7-2Tcommand @ 2.85vdimm. Was hoping the Buffallo was going to be better. :(

Keep trying for the 5:4 if you can though. Would love to see you hit high DDR. ;)

i'm sure the buffalo can go better if the vdimm can be set higher. :( the maximun vdimm is 2.8v(actual 2.75v-2.75v), tat's y i cannot do 5:4 at high fsb. neway jd, do u feel regret b'coz u neva done the vmem mod 1st??:p

[j2me_tech]

batboy,

how bout OCZ PC3700 (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/OCZ+EL+DDR++PC-3700+Dual+Channel+Gold)

this is what they get with vdimm set to 2.8
http://www.ocztechnology.com/images/cpuz515.gif

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by j2me_tech
jd,

congrats..u didnt :bang head the 275fsb wall. :D neway cpu-z screenshot? :) is this what you wanted??
http://jdmcnudgent.no-ip.info/cpuz.jpg

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by j2me_tech
batboy,

how bout OCZ PC3700 (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/OCZ+EL+DDR++PC-3700+Dual+Channel+Gold)

this is what they get with vdimm set to 2.8
what does that score in sandra??

[j2me_tech]

poor, he didnt provide any benchies. u have an account there, u ask :p

here's the link--->
Click HERE (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=13362) & HERE (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=13308)

neway, how's your monster doing now?:D :p :)

edited:
thanks for the screenshot. it's what i 1. :)

[batboy]

I have not seen anywhere that sells the OCZ PC3700 Gold yet. Those benchies made me drool though. JD, stop messing around and run that RAM through it's paces.

[AZN]

Originally posted by j2me_tech
batboy,

how bout OCZ PC3700 (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/OCZ+EL+DDR++PC-3700+Dual+Channel+Gold)

this is what they get with vdimm set to 2.8
http://www.ocztechnology.com/images/cpuz515.gif
do u have pc3200 or 3700?

i got my buffalo at 464mhz at 2-2-2-5 but i used 2.91v on bh7 board. this ram with 2.9v rocks but if u dont have atleast 2.9 then it just average.

[AZN]

Originally posted by Alphy
Very Very nice for H20 cooling...How far did you go with air btw?
good for water? this is on air :)

http://home.attbi.com/~aznsniper/300.jpg

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by batboy
I have not seen anywhere that sells the OCZ PC3700 Gold yet. Those benchies made me drool though. JD, stop messing around and run that RAM through it's paces. im at about the limit of the mem, with tight timings, and 292fsb, and 3:2 strap. i will be stuck at this until i yank the board out and volt mod.

[j2me_tech]

azn,

the ram is not mine. :( i gotten the screenshot from xtreme forum. ;)
Originally posted by j2me_tech
poor, he didnt provide any benchies. u have an account there, u ask

here's the link--->
Click HERE (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=13362) & HERE (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=13308)

neway, how's your monster doing now?

edited:
thanks for the screenshot. it's what i 1. i assumed that u just woke up. :D

nice oc azn :clap: . neway here's mine===> http://www.zmoz.com/pics/301fsb.JPG

[j2me_tech]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
im at about the limit of the mem, with tight timings, and 292fsb, and 3:2 strap. i will be stuck at this until i yank the board out and volt mod.

feel so sorry for u. :( neway y dont u try burn in at 300fsb using 3:2, the memory will be 400mhz.

[Rasputin'sLiver]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
im gonna burn it in for a bit. i will tweak more later. i gotta get my kids rig switched over.:( what a pain in the a$$, a reinstall.


good job jd!

i gotta get rid of this aopen. i feel so inadequate! :(

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by Rasputin'sLiver


good job jd!

i gotta get rid of this aopen. i feel so inadequate! :( this rig is flying bro. i like it, and i need more mem juice.:)

[Rasputin'sLiver]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
this rig is flying bro. i like it, and i need more mem juice.:)

you kinda caught me offguard with the ic7 though. weren't you leaning towards getting an asus?

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by batboy
Try 291 FSB using the SPD timings (3,8,4,4) with the 5:4 ratio (DDR466). That's the RAM's specs. I wanna see if it can handle what it's rated for in dual channel. Please do this for me JD, I'm trying to decide what PC3700 to get and this will really help.

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1388

Buffalo uses Winbond BH-5 chips and TwinMOS uses TMD 4.3ns chips. I'm beginning to think Buffalo is not bad for the price, but if you want super fast RAM, better try TwinMOS. Wish someone would try Geil PC3700, that has 4.3ns chips too. sorry bud, i didnt see this, i will try.;)

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by Rasputin'sLiver


you kinda caught me offguard with the ic7 though. weren't you leaning towards getting an asus? yeah, glad i saved myself like $50.:)

[micamica1217]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
yeah, glad i saved myself like $50.:)

see jd, this mobo is nice.

mica

[Rasputin'sLiver]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
yeah, glad i saved myself like $50.:)

where did you get it? techmole?

[jdmcnudgent]

yes, it is mica. BATBOY, i am sad to say that i could not do anything with the memory set to stock. i had 300fsb, 1.65 volts, and 2.8 or whatever set to the mem. and i also had the 5:4 strap on. so far, i have not been able to use that feature. well, im gonna run 3dm2k1 with my fsb at 292 and my mem at 2,2,2,5:)

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by Rasputin'sLiver


where did you get it? techmole? googlegear, $148 shipped.:D

[jdmcnudgent]

i am geeked.:D check this out, and this is with a R8500.:eek:
http://jdmcnudgent.no-ip.info/3dm.jpg

[jdmcnudgent]

o yeah, its time to get to work MAX.:) i got you finally.

[micamica1217]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
i am geeked.:D check this out, and this is with a R8500.:eek:
http://jdmcnudgent.no-ip.info/3dm.jpg

compare the number you have above with your old 1.8a at 190fsb and dual DDR set up.

you did reach 190fsb didn't you?

or just give us the score at its max oc and dual...

thanks jd

mica

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by micamica1217


compare the number you have above with your old 1.8a at 190fsb and dual DDR set up.

you did reach 190fsb didn't you?

or just give us the score at its max oc and dual...

thanks jd

mica mica, absolutely no comparasion. i could not even score over 9000 with the p4g8x, because i never put the tweak bios on it to make the timings stick. also, i dont believe that the sammy would do the fast timings. i just ran it again with the new ct 3.4's, and got a 12,113, which is 2 pts lower than the top score for an 8500 on our team. im gonna keep pushing this, casue im gonna get top dogg for 8500 tonight.

o yeah, heres the linky (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6530102 )

[jdmcnudgent]

its now official, i just crushed the #1 8500 score for our team.:D
http://jdmcnudgent.no-ip.info/12.jpg

[lbbo2002]

Batboy,

Both Geil PC3700 512 meg sticks I have recieved from Newegg (within last 10day) would not run DDR450@2.98v at SPD. Don't know if the 256meg's will do better. The email support request to GEIL fell short as they have not responded to the 5 emails over the last 10 days and I have received nothing via phone to them either.

I am sending them back for the buffalo PC3700 or another XMS 3200LL since it is stable now at DDR450 cas2.

[AZN]

12k 3dmark is good? i thought a 8500 was better then a ti4400 wasnt it?

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by AZN
12k 3dmark is good? i thought a 8500 was better then a ti4400 wasnt it? i dont really know. but thanks.:D

[micamica1217]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
i dont really know. but thanks.:D

the ti4400 is better and gets higher scores.

mica

[AZN]

even on my backup rig i scored 16k 3dmark but it was using the ti4400 at the time.
wait now i remember. the radeon 8500 was the killer for the GF3 not the GF4 :) and the 9700 was the killer for the GF4
i got things alittle mixed up :)

[jdmcnudgent]

either way, i think thats a pretty nice score for an 8500.;)

[j2me_tech]

jd,

u using 3k1 #330??

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by j2me_tech
jd,

u using 3k1 #330?? ??

[micamica1217]

Originally posted by AZN
even on my backup rig i scored 16k 3dmark but it was using the ti4400 at the time.
wait now i remember. the radeon 8500 was the killer for the GF3 not the GF4 :) and the 9700 was the killer for the GF4
i got things alittle mixed up :)

what do you get now with the 2.4c and ti4400?

mica

[j2me_tech]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
??

sorry to confused u. r u using 3dmark 2001 build 330? :p

[Rio71]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent : i could not even score over 9000 with the p4g8x,
ohh, i'm confused... this schould go higher.
but the 12152-score are nice score, congrats.

PIII-S 1400@1750 ; R8500 @ 290/290 :cool: (http://www.rio71.de/bench/1400@1768/3dmark2001se@1768%20(290mhz-290mhz).png)

[micamica1217]

Originally posted by Rio71

ohh, i'm confused... this schould go higher.
but the 12152-score are nice score, congrats.

PIII-S 1400@1750 ; R8500 @ 290/290 :cool: (http://www.rio71.de/bench/1400@1768/3dmark2001se@1768%20(290mhz-290mhz).png)

you have to remember that jd is runnig at 3/2 mem ratio...
he is loosing too much bandwith for the cpu that he has.
at 5/4 ratio he will do alot better...about 10% faster in real world stuff.

nice OCed card you have there, btw

mica

[j2me_tech]

mica,

how's 300fsb running 3:2 over 280fsb running 5:4 ? which 1 yield better performance? :rolleyes:

[AZN]

280 fsb with 5:4 will be running at ddr 448
300 fsb 3:2 is ddr 400

obviously the ddr448 will have better memory scores but it might now be totally better cuzz it is 240mhz slower.

[micamica1217]

Originally posted by micamica1217


what do you get now with the 2.4c and ti4400?

mica

forgot me AZN?

mica

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by j2me_tech


sorry to confused u. r u using 3dmark 2001 build 330? :p no, 300. you think i would score higher with the 330??

[AZN]

Originally posted by micamica1217


forgot me AZN?

mica
o sorry yeah i did :)
right now its about the same 16k range. maybe i should try reinstalling. every benchmark went up but 3dmark.

[j2me_tech]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
no, 300. you think i would score higher with the 330??

i'm not sure whether u'll get higher score, but u should give it a try. here's the patch d/l link ==> CLICK (http://www.majorgeeks.com/getfile.php?file=3696&site=1)
;)

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by j2me_tech


i'm not sure whether u'll get higher score, but u should give it a try. here's the patch d/l link ==> CLICK (http://www.majorgeeks.com/getfile.php?file=3696&site=1)
;) thanks, i already have it downloaded. i think it just lets you run direct x 9 on the proggie, as it was designed for direct x 8.;)

[j2me_tech]

jd, so do u try install the patch?;)

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by j2me_tech
jd, so do u try install the patch?;) not tonight. im going to bed soon, and im running seti right now, gotta keep those numbers up. ill do some more benching tomorrow, pcmark, and seti bench. i prolly will not do it, but i may. JCviggen says that the direct 8 is a tad bit faster than the direct 9, and like i said, the patch just lets you run direct 9 in 3dm2k1se.;)

[j2me_tech]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
not tonight. im going to bed soon, and im running seti right now, gotta keep those numbers up. ill do some more benching tomorrow, pcmark, and seti bench. i prolly will not do it, but i may. JCviggen says that the direct 8 is a tad bit faster than the direct 9, and like i said, the patch just lets you run direct 9 in 3dm2k1se.;)

okie, keep us posted & good luck. :D

[micamica1217]

Originally posted by AZN

o sorry yeah i did :)
right now its about the same 16k range. maybe i should try reinstalling. every benchmark went up but 3dmark.

not bad.

this (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6530297) is what I get with the 9700 at stock and default settings.

not bad for a 2.4b at 3.4ghz, huh?

yeah, I need to reinstall too, yet I'll wait for an extra drive for raid.

mica

[micamica1217]

ooops.

dubble post.:D

mica

[micamica1217]

Originally posted by j2me_tech
mica,

how's 300fsb running 3:2 over 280fsb running 5:4 ? which 1 yield better performance? :rolleyes:

you'll have to test it yourself with the things you run on it....

but at 4/5 ratio, you'll only loose about 5-10% from running at full bandwith (1/1).
now at 3/2 ratio it seems that you loose about 10-20%...
and in most cases, it looks closer to 15%.

it's still early for me to give you an honest anser because all most people like to give is sandra scores.
I still need more real world benchies to say for sure.

but I'll stick by my original statment of a month ago...
if you have to run at 3/2 ratio, then the new 800 chips may not be worth it at this time. at least for me anyway.

mica

[AZN]

Originally posted by j2me_tech
mica,

how's 300fsb running 3:2 over 280fsb running 5:4 ? which 1 yield better performance? :rolleyes:

I have an answer for u. the 300fsb will yield a better performance even with the lower memory speed.

I ran the test at 280fsb with 5:4 and 300fsb at 3:2
i could not get 300fsb stable enough to run all the benchies but i did get sandra memory ran.

280fsb 5:4 = 3360 MHz cpu and DDR448 2-3-3-7

http://home.attbi.com/~aznsniper/280fsb.jpg



like i said i couldnt get all benchies on 300fsb so i will show 295fsb at 3:2
but i did get sandra memory at 300fsb and that came out to 59xx


http://home.attbi.com/~aznakano1/295fsb.jpg


just like ED said. ram is important yes, but if u are sacraficing alot of cpu MHz to get a better ratio for memory u will lose overall performance. the higher the cpu speed is the overall better the system will perform. so if i had a choice of 280fsb with 5:4 or 300fsb at 3:2 i would take 300fsb 3:2 in a heartbeat cuzz even at a lower ddr400 rather then ddr448 the system will have a 240mhz higher cpu speed and will perform better even in memory.

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by micamica1217


you have to remember that jd is runnig at 3/2 mem ratio...
he is loosing too much bandwith for the cpu that he has.
at 5/4 ratio he will do alot better...about 10% faster in real world stuff.

nice OCed card you have there, btw

mica i cant run the 5:4 over 280fsb, im gonna try it now, with fast timings.;)

[jdmcnudgent]

this is ddr 448 with the 5:4 strap. im gonna run 3dm2k1se to see how i do.:)
http://jdmcnudgent.no-ip.info/z.jpg
http://jdmcnudgent.no-ip.info/san.jpg

[AZN]

at the same cpu and ram speed JD seems to have a slight lead over me, perhaps i do need to reinstall OS eh?

[jdmcnudgent]

i just ran 3dm, and i lost 202 pts, with the mem at slower timings, at ddr448.:( so, i believe that the Horsepower and tighter timings helps. if had better mem, or more voltage, and could run the fast timings, then the 5:4 might be better. so from what i see, my sys is faster at 292fsb with the 3:2 as opposed to 280fsb with the 5:4.
http://jdmcnudgent.no-ip.info/11.jpg

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by micamica1217


you have to remember that jd is runnig at 3/2 mem ratio...
he is loosing too much bandwith for the cpu that he has.
at 5/4 ratio he will do alot better...about 10% faster in real world stuff.

nice OCed card you have there, btw

mica i just proved that im faster at siggy speed, than with the cpu at 3365 and ddr 448.;)

[AZN]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
i just proved that im faster at siggy speed, than with the cpu at 3365 and ddr 448.;)
isnt that what i just said in my last post :)

[micamica1217]

Originally posted by AZN


I have an answer for u. the 300fsb will yield a better performance even with the lower memory speed.

I ran the test at 280fsb with 5:4 and 300fsb at 3:2
i could not get 300fsb stable enough to run all the benchies but i did get sandra memory ran.

280fsb 5:4 = 3360 MHz cpu and DDR448 2-3-3-7




like i said i couldnt get all benchies on 300fsb so i will show 295fsb at 3:2
but i did get sandra memory at 300fsb and that came out to 59xx



just like ED said. ram is important yes, but if u are sacraficing alot of cpu MHz to get a better ratio for memory u will lose overall performance. the higher the cpu speed is the overall better the system will perform. so if i had a choice of 280fsb with 5:4 or 300fsb at 3:2 i would take 300fsb 3:2 in a heartbeat cuzz even at a lower ddr400 rather then ddr448 the system will have a 240mhz higher cpu speed and will perform better even in memory.

you make a strong argument....
but what I see is a slighty flawed test.

at 295fsb and 3/2 ratio you are running at 2,2,2,6
at 280fsb and 4/5 ratio you are running at 2,3,3,7

in your case this may seem like the 3/2 ratio don't matter.
but what if you are able to run at 2,2,2,6 and 4/5 at 280fsb?

maybe a quick test of 2,3,3,7 and 3/2 at 295fsb just to make all things even.;)

also, while I happen to like the pcmark2k2 benchie more then most peeps....why not try some tests of Q3A, UT2003, commanchie4 demo, and anything else you may think of.

you may just see more then what you showed.

mica

[micamica1217]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
i just ran 3dm, and i lost 202 pts, with the mem at slower timings, at ddr448.:( so, i believe that the Horsepower and tighter timings helps. if had better mem, or more voltage, and could run the fast timings, then the 5:4 might be better. so from what i see, my sys is faster at 292fsb with the 3:2 as opposed to 280fsb with the 5:4.

I have to agree with you on this one, jd.

yet if you ever do the volt mod let us know the results.

btw, this is why I'm going to wait for now. better memory hopfuly will come out, and then the prescotts....weeee, now that will be fun.
may be we can run the prescotts at 1/1 ratio.

mica

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by AZN

isnt that what i just said in my last post :) umm, no, you said that im a tad bit faster than you at the same stuff.:)

[AZN]

i dont have any games loaded but i will do that after i format. i would run 5:4 at 2-2-2-6 but my ram needs more voltage and crapped out so i had to relax it. when i get back from the store i will run 3:2 295fsb at 2-3-3-7 to make it the same timmings as i did the 280fsb.

[AZN]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
umm, no, you said that im a tad bit faster than you at the same stuff.:)
um u know what i meant man. the post of benchies.

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by micamica1217


I have to agree with you on this one, jd.

yet if you ever do the volt mod let us know the results.

btw, this is why I'm going to wait for now. better memory hopfuly will come out, and then the prescotts....weeee, now that will be fun.
may be we can run the prescotts at 1/1 ratio.

mica that would be nice. there really isnt no fun with the 2.4c chips, mine does 285 on default, and i have it set to 1.6 in the bios, and it comes up at 1.55 under load. the real trick is to get the mem going faster. nuttz asked me today when im gonna volt mod, and i said, i dont know, im pretty happy with the sys right now, and i would be said if i flubbed up the mobo trying to mod it.

[Big Nuttz]

Um those are some nice scores.:D

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by AZN

um u know what i meant man. the post of benchies. :eek:

[micamica1217]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
that would be nice. there really isnt no fun with the 2.4c chips, mine does 285 on default, and i have it set to 1.6 in the bios, and it comes up at 1.55 under load. the real trick is to get the mem going faster. nuttz asked me today when im gonna volt mod, and i said, i dont know, im pretty happy with the sys right now, and i would be said if i flubbed up the mobo trying to mod it.

I truly understand why you are so hesitant in doing the v mod...
I know that I wont do it.

yet I'll bet that someone will make a bios that will give you the extra voltage.

btw, I would be happy with your system as well.

nicely done jd.:D

mica

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by micamica1217


I truly understand why you are so hesitant in doing the v mod...
I know that I wont do it.

yet I'll bet that someone will make a bios that will give you the extra voltage.

btw, I would be happy with your system as well.

nicely done jd.:D

mica thanks bro. now if i only had a R9800.;)

[AZN]

ok i did the test at same ram timmings and only the ram scores were hurt but overall system was the same.

http://home.attbi.com/~aznsniper/280fsb.jpg

http://home.attbi.com/~aznakano1/295.jpg

[micamica1217]

Originally posted by AZN
[B]ok i did the test at same ram timmings and only the ram scores were hurt but overall system was the same.


realy?

I see about a 20% loss of memory score....
now how can your system be the same speed.

again, you may see more when you run some extra game tests.

mica

btw, thanks for the extra testing.:clap:
not many peeps are willing to go the extra disstance for us.

[jdmcnudgent]

AZN, try to run your mem at 2,2,2,5. thats what im at, should get a bit more performance.:)

[AZN]

Originally posted by micamica1217


realy?

I see about a 20% loss of memory score....
now how can your system be the same speed.

again, you may see more when you run some extra game tests.

mica

btw, thanks for the extra testing.:clap:
not many peeps are willing to go the extra disstance for us.
no, look at mips and it/s and pcmark. those scores remained teh same but memory score did go down.

[micamica1217]

Originally posted by AZN

no, look at mips and it/s and pcmark. those scores remained teh same but memory score did go down.

I'm talking about pcmark....

23.2% loss in memory score
3% loss in cpu score....still not bad.

in games the loss of memory could hurt you bad.
yet you'll never use the settings anyway.;)

again thanks

mica

[AZN]

i dout the memory lost will hurt gamming but ill test it out. yes i was referring to cpu not memory

[micamica1217]

Originally posted by AZN
i dout the memory lost will hurt gamming but ill test it out. yes i was referring to cpu not memory

besides UT2003 and commanchie4, most games are very dependent on mem bandwith.

that's why the P4 kicks AMDs butt at Q3A engine games....
infact, other games are almost a dependent on bandwith as well.

it's just something to think about.

mica

[jdmcnudgent]

this is what i just got.:)
http://jdmcnudgent.no-ip.info/pcm.jpg

[hipro5]

VERY NICE jd.......KEEP clocking..... :D

BTW.....HAVE you tried the "667 strap with 5:4 to see how it does with your Ram???.... ;)

[AZN]

this is what i got when i refomated. im over 11k mips now and at 290fsb. memeory looks better too :)

http://home.attbi.com/~aznakano1/290fsb.jpg




ill install some games and try benching them

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by hipro5
VERY NICE jd.......KEEP clocking..... :D

BTW.....HAVE you tried the "667 strap with 5:4 to see how it does with your Ram???.... ;) no, what is it?

[micamica1217]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
no, what is it?

667 is under cpu strap...I'll bet your on auto or 800.

mica

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by micamica1217


667 is under cpu strap...I'll bet your on auto or 800.

mica ive seen it, but i meant, what does it do??

[AZN]

some reason i cant hit ddr448 no more. so this is the highest i can go with ram.

290fsb 3480MHz 3:2 387mhz ram

dm-antalus
35.166431 / 80.564941 / 148.232376 fps
Score = 80.615456


265fsb 3180 MHz 5:4 424mhz ram

dm-antalus
17.506815 / 73.738686 / 143.534973 fps
Score = 73.787552

for a 300mhz cpu difference the scores are alot closer then i would assume. perhaps some1 esle with better ram timmings can try this. what i did was set ram to 2-2-2-5 and used highest cpu fsb with slow ram and low cpu speed with high ram speed, get it?

[micamica1217]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
ive seen it, but i meant, what does it do??

I must use the 800 for the high OC that I'm running at...never tryed 667 as well. but the 533 didn't work for me.

if you try 667, you may have other mem ratios as well as a better mem or cpu OC. maybe.

mica

[micamica1217]

Originally posted by AZN
some reason i cant hit ddr448 no more. so this is the highest i can go with ram.

290fsb 3480MHz 3:2 387mhz ram

dm-antalus
35.166431 / 80.564941 / 148.232376 fps
Score = 80.615456


265fsb 3180 MHz 5:4 424mhz ram

dm-antalus
17.506815 / 73.738686 / 143.534973 fps
Score = 73.787552

for a 300mhz cpu difference the scores are alot closer then i would assume. perhaps some1 esle with better ram timmings can try this. what i did was set ram to 2-2-2-5 and used highest cpu fsb with slow ram and low cpu speed with high ram speed, get it?

azn,

I want to thank you again.

yes the scores are looking as I expected. you should get about 5fps for each 100mhz increase in UT2003...if the ratios were the same.
as you can see there is only about 3fps increase...mixed ratios.

but most games are not as cpu speed dependent...they rely more on bandwith.
Q3A would give you a much differant scores.
the same with any Q3A engine game.

you may even get a better score with the 265fsb and 5/4 ratio.

remember, when we are talking about intel P4's....
it's all about the bandwith.

now when you are just plain crazy, you can always slap that ti4400 in your GB system and see what the scores are like with 1/1 ratio.
I think you have about the same GHZ with both systems, right?

mica

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by micamica1217


I must use the 800 for the high OC that I'm running at...never tryed 667 as well. but the 533 didn't work for me.

if you try 667, you may have other mem ratios as well as a better mem or cpu OC. maybe.

mica with 667 set, you only get the 1:1 and the 5:4. no real big deal. im running the by cpu.;)

[j2me_tech]

jd, mica, azn:

sorry for late reply, was sleeping for the whole yesterday night.:p neway, thanks for all the answers & here's what i gotten at 300fsb & 280fsb. -->

280fsb using 5:4 divider
http://denial.loose-screws.com/uploads/site/280fsb_benchies.jpg

300fsb using 3:2 divider
http://denial.loose-screws.com/uploads/site/300fsb_benchies.jpg

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by Big Nuttz
Um those are some nice scores.:D thank you.



ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm binny.:p

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by j2me_tech
jd, mica, azn:

sorry for late reply, was sleeping for the whole yesterday night.:p neway, thanks for all the answers & here's what i gotten at 300fsb & 280fsb. -->

280fsb using 5:4 divider
http://denial.loose-screws.com/uploads/site/280fsb_benchies.jpg

300fsb using 3:2 divider
http://denial.loose-screws.com/uploads/site/300fsb_benchies.jpg i did that too, but i couldnt get to 300 stable for benchies. however, i did run 280 at 5:4, and it was slower than my siggy system.:(

[micamica1217]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
with 667 set, you only get the 1:1 and the 5:4. no real big deal. im running the by cpu.;)

yes, but your 5/4 may be more stable at a higher OC....maybe.

mica

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by micamica1217


yes, but your 5/4 may be more stable at a higher OC....maybe.

mica not unless your mem can handle it. or you have a volt mod.:(

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by micamica1217


yes, but your 5/4 may be more stable at a higher OC....maybe.

mica i doubt it.:(

[texasfit]

JD - what ratio did you end up with on the buffallo 3700
running at 290fsb
3:2 @ DDR388
or
5:4 @ DDR465
and
what timings were you able to get with the buffallo

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by texasfit
JD - what ratio did you end up with on the buffallo 3700
running at 290fsb
3:2 @ DDR388
or
5:4 @ DDR465
and
what timings were you able to get with the buffallo i did the 5:4 at 280fsb, but didnt try for higher, and i had slow timings, 2.5,3,3,7. right now, im at 290fsb, with the 3:2 strap, and my timings are 2,2,2,5.:D im fairly happy with the mem for the price i paid.:)

[AZN]

dont be a silly do the mod :)
i will

[texasfit]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
i did the 5:4 at 280fsb, but didnt try for higher, and i had slow timings, 2.5,3,3,7. right now, im at 290fsb, with the 3:2 strap, and my timings are 2,2,2,5.:D im fairly happy with the mem for the price i paid.:)
Thanks for the update - That looks pretty outstanding.
You didn't happen to run seti bench at those two different setting to see which was better for overall performance. ;)

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by texasfit

Thanks for the update - That looks pretty outstanding.
You didn't happen to run seti bench at those two different setting to see which was better for overall performance. ;) no not yet, but i will soon.:)