Have had enough with triing to over clock must be what i'm running!!! Darn AMD!!

[shawnavin]

I'm getting really frustrated with this overcloking stuff must not be doing it right. have read endless pages on this sight and others. Have ead manuals and books and still can't do it. I think I am destied to be a t-bird 800 on an asus a7v.
Oh well I guess that will have to de good enough.

Yeah right, can some one plaese help don't know what I'm doing wrong

[Eriksson]

Are you doing anything yet?

[shawnavin]

yes I have can get up to 909 but is that all i can do?

[shawnavin]

yes I have can get up to 909 but is that all i can do?

[Eriksson]

What multiplier/fsb/voltage settings are you using? and how hot is your cpu?

[Rob Cork]

A Tbird800 and an A7V is a great combo for ocing - you can take it higher, just have patience with it. As Eriksson says, your temps may be the problem. I assume you've unlocked the cpu and are using 9x101, but if you haven't and are instead just using the fsb to overclock then that'd explain why you can't get any higher - 909/8=~113MHz (actually 904) - give us some more info and we'll see how we can help :-)

[shawnavin]

Rob Cork (Feb 04, 2001 06:42 a.m.):
A Tbird800 and an A7V is a great combo for ocing - you can take it higher, just have patience with it. As Eriksson says, your temps may be the problem. I assume you've unlocked the cpu and are using 9x101, but if you haven't and are instead just using the fsb to overclock then that'd explain why you can't get any higher - 909/8=~113MHz (actually 904) - give us some more info and we'll see how we can help :-)

hey rob i've treid to use the bios but ever since the last time i tried i have no choice but to sue the jumpers. is ther ea way i can fix that?

[Rob Cork]

I don't see what could stop you running in jumperfree mode - maybe if you tried 'load setup defaults' in bios, and then started again, that might help. What bios version are you running? 1004d seems to be the one of choice for most people, as the 1005 series seem to set performance to 'normal' instead of 'optimal' at fsb speeds above 103MHz. Have you unlocked the multiplier on your cpu with the pencil trick, and if so what did you use - pencil/conductive pen etc?

I find the best way to oc with my A7V is to run in jumperfree mode, so I can change the fsb and voltage in the bios, but to use the large block of dipswitches to set the cpu multiplier. This can be done - set the board up for jumperfree mode, then set the dipswitches for the multiplier you require (obviously this will only have an effect if you have unlocked the cpu). Leave the four switches for fsb set to off, and you can run in jumperfree mode but with the multiplier you have set rather than the cpus default.

A little bit more info would help - don't worry about making a long post :-)
Just describe your cooling setup, what temps you have under load, whether your cpu is unlocked, what multiplier/fsb combo you are using etc - anything that could be helpful. Thanks

[shawnavin]

800 t-bird a7v 192mg 133mhz 64mg prophet gts pro soundblaster live plat

@ 800mhz temp is 32 to 35 celcius.
@ 909mhz temp is 42 to 45 celcius
have ruled out heat as my prob.
have treid over and over to get into my bios in jumper free mode and it won't boot.
right now my settings are bfm 8.5 external frequency selection is
cpu=107 mhz
pci= 35.67 mhz
do you need to know any more?

[Rob Cork]

Just saw your other post - it does sound as though the pencil trick needs redoing, it's not uncommon that the cpu is only 'partly' unlocked after doing it. Think of it like this - if only 3 of the bridges are actually successfully closed, only multipliers that don't require that 4th bridge to be closed will work. Keep trying it, you'll get it. Plus, with temps like those, you can safely go to the board's max of 1.85V, if you haven't already :-)

[shawnavin]

o.k I went and got a conductive pen. Is there anything I should know that I havn't read yet? any tips?

[Eriksson]

Just make sure you do not interconnect the bridges. Good luck and tell us how it goes.

[shawnavin]

YES!!!!!! I have unleashed the fury of the 800 t-bird!!!!!

Now how do I use it???

with the frequency multipier I will let me get 850, 900, 950 then won't boot.
with the frequency at 900 i've tried to increase my bus and becomes really unstable.
@900mhz I play deuce ex for twenty mins, then I clhek my temp. and it's only at 45 - 48.
I'm all DISCOMBOBULATED

[Eriksson]

Congrats, you are going the right way now :) have you increased the cpu voltage now?

[kat]

shawnavin (Feb 06, 2001 12:27 a.m.):
YES!!!!!! I have unleashed the fury of the 800 t-bird!!!!!

Now how do I use it???

with the frequency multipier I will let me get 850, 900, 950 then won't boot.
with the frequency at 900 i've tried to increase my bus and becomes really unstable.
@900mhz I play deuce ex for twenty mins, then I clhek my temp. and it's only at 45 - 48.
I'm all DISCOMBOBULATED


can i get an amen brother another " sucsessful conductive pen trick" hehehe

[shawnavin]

Eriksson (Feb 06, 2001 04:22 a.m.):
Congrats, you are going the right way now :) have you increased the cpu voltage now?

i/o voltage setting (vio) is at 3.69.
still can't go over 900 and temp. is around 45

[Rob Cork]

Deus Ex, hey? Excellent game :-)
Plus after playing it for a week on my tbird700 when I first built my comp, I found I could take it to 850 (originally couldn't pass 800), then 875 a week later. Clearly Deus Ex had burnt-in my cpu - much more fun than Seti!
You may find that if you just keep playing (tough job I know) you can oc more in a week or so, thanks to burnin. However, if your voltage is not already at the max of 1.85, you can easily put it up to the max - those temps could be cooler, but they're well within safe limits - indeed, below 50C is desirable, so you're doing fine there.

[Eriksson]

shawnavin (Feb 06, 2001 09:40 a.m.):

i/o voltage setting (vio) is at 3.69.
still can't go over 900 and temp. is around 45

Dont confuse I/O voltage with cpu voltage. This I/O voltage is on the high side I suggest you lower it since it does not help oc a lot. (defult setting is 3,3-3,5V). Like Rob says increse your cpu voltage :)

[shawnavin]

you guys are so helpfull and there is know $$$$$$ amount that can buy the the wealth of knowlage found here. I have gone from being a knoow nothing gamer one year ago and now I build about five systems a month for fellow class mates at the college I attend, not to mention my own puter I'm now getting better test resaults than a friend with a 1gig.
lol
But my next project is cooling, I've considered air and water. Don't like the idea of a recap of the Titanic, and think I have put together a good idea.

Rigth now I run a super orb, I want to take off the fan and mount tubing over the orb ( be sure to leave 1/2 inch of orb fin open for air to move though). The tube would only be about 4 inches long, come of off the tube with a 2-6 inch swedge and off that with a 6-10 inch swedge. and here's where I think of Tim The Tool Man Tayler. Two 10 inch 459 cfm nestled inside the swedge opening. An addition anouther of the same fan as an exaust out the bottom front of the unit.
I gave the question to the head of the math/sciences department and will have and answer to totle wind velocity and when at room temp. what temp the orb should get.

That I hope will prove to work well, and if not back to the drawing board!!!#%$*&&*$##@!!!!!

If you have any tips or just want to tell me I'm *&##&* in the head, well, let me know.

[Slicers]

using an orb for cooling? Why? you can get around 10 degrees lower with an Alpha or a GlobalWin then you could probaly take it considerably higher

[shawnavin]

I will try and find out some info on them. I got the answers from my proffs today wind velocity blowing on the ORB is around 1850 cfm, and under no heat load would keep the orb at -37 c. BRRRRR. The air volume in the tower would be replaced every .037 sec. and he said that if I was to put a small filter I can't remember what kind but it eliminates all moister. So no water no prob.