Choose my new processor!

[DE]

Ok guys, I've been reading this forum fro awhile now and I have I have a Celeron 333 @ 500 no problem but time has come to upgrade. The last thing to buy for my new AMD system is the CPU. So here's the question:

Duron or T-bird?

I can get:
Duron 700 - $47
Duron 800 - $68
T-bird 750 - $72

I know with intels certain batch s-codes were better than others but are all AMD's created somewhat equal and what's the better o/c and performance chip? If I got a Duron I might go with the 700 and spend the extra on cooling. But the T-bird 750 is only $4 more than the Duron 800, extra cache (not cash :) worth it?

I need you input and ideas. The CPU will be ordered this next week.

Thanks
Dylan

[kevster]

i would go with the t-bird ......i dont know all the super duper specs but i know that the t-bird is the higher end cpu's then the durons i think it has to do with a cache of some thing not for sure.... :) im realllly happy with my t-bird just did the pencil trick like 25 mins ago and im change the mulitplyer to 12x 100mhz
im on the 1.1 tbird ...anyways the question is would you want a pentium or a celeron thats how i view it ..but its amd... okay thats it :Þ

[FBRopz]

DE (Feb 18, 2001 01:22 a.m.):
Ok guys, I've been reading this forum fro awhile now and I have I have a Celeron 333 @ 500 no problem but time has come to upgrade. The last thing to buy for my new AMD system is the CPU. So here's the question:

Duron or T-bird?

I can get:
Duron 700 - $47
Duron 800 - $68
T-bird 750 - $72

I know with intels certain batch s-codes were better than others but are all AMD's created somewhat equal and what's the better o/c and performance chip? If I got a Duron I might go with the 700 and spend the extra on cooling. But the T-bird 750 is only $4 more than the Duron 800, extra cache (not cash :) worth it?

I need you input and ideas. The CPU will be ordered this next week.

Thanks
Dylan

That's a tough decesion, you have to consider this... loose the Duron 700. don't spend that small chunk of change. you can never overclock that as much as the other two and besides that, spend the extra 20 bucks this way in the event that you do run into problems overclocking you still have a faster processor.

You should narrow to the Duron 800 and the T-Bird. consider the factory speed of the two. I've seen on here that the T-bird is somewhat better at overclocking, ultimately than the Duron. The T-Bird is more of a big brother to the Duron, honestly, I'd spend the $4 bucks and go with the T-Bird. only because if you do have problems with o/c there is no reason you can't get 50Mhz o/c out of a T-Bird.

The Durons are great chips, I have one myself. Although the T-birds are just a tad higer than the Durons, if you do more research you'll see that the T-bird has a nicer longevity than the Durons.

It's all an opinion though, do what you think!

[Tomas]

and a Tbird 750 is faster than a duron 800

[Richard]

Given those choices I think the Tbird is the best choice.

Generally speaking the Tbirds outperform the Durons by about 100 MHz.

The Tbird 750 overclocks to 900 MHz fairly consistently. Which would require a 1 GHz Duron to compare.

If you did manage to overclock a Duron to 950-1GHz you'd be set. However, I'm a weenie. I like to put my money on the better bet. The Tbird is, IMO, the safer choice.

[proze]

obviously everyone is going to say 'go for the tbird', and i'm no exception. the tbird is without doubt a great chip, and if you get a blue one, you'll get a healthy overclock. sorted.

OR.. if you're money-conscious, then i'd say go for the duron 700. the 800 and 700 are equally likely to get up to the gig level, so why spend the extra?

some facts:
-durons generally get higher mhz overclocks than tbirds (but they are slower chips.. don't forget that).
-tbirds and durons at the same speed and voltage put out pretty much the same heat, which is a lot, so take good cooling into account.
-most durons are quite likely to hit around the gig mark with a good motherboard, good ram and good cooling.

[merlins_wraith]

ok i may be the unpopular voice in the crowd ... but here goes...

personally in terms of just plugging it in and oc'ing it for overall results ... i like the durons .... i recently ran across a 750mz blue core tbird ($100) [of course! i bought it] - i pulled my oc'ed duron (700mz @ 980mz) and ploped in the tbird and took it for a spin ....

the tbird is much more touchy (bsod's and windows protection errors) not to mention that you start out at a higher stock voltage ... lets not forgot to mention the higher temps ...

the duron is a great rookie plug - oc - & - play socket A cpu ... once you cross the L1's you are good to go

however with a voltage mod i am sure that the tbird would outperform the duron (but thats not exactly a rookie mod)

the bottom line .... a duron at a 50mz disadvantage still outperforms my tbird in terms of end mz

'do or do not there is not try'
duron 700@980 ktv raid
tbird 750@950 ktv
k62 550 @700 (the space heater for my place)
1 p133@188
3 p133@166
& lots of keychain material

[jmy]

first time builder - also considering duron 800 or tbird 750 because of cost..leaning toward the t 750.but after reading other articles i'm not sure of my motherboard choice (mis k7tpro2a)..any opinions on the best combo ?? dylan- - what did you decide??

[jmy]

dylan....where can i get those processors at the price you mentioned ??

[yog]

I'd go for the t-bird. I have a duron and wish I had a t-bird, even thinking of upgrading already (3 weeks) it is just a better chip.

[SoreMonkey]

Go with the T-Bird I have a 900T-bird on a cheap-A$$ Lucky-star mobo and i still got 100Mhz overclocking out of it. With no real extra effort or cooling

[DE]

jmy (Feb 18, 2001 05:45 p.m.):
first time builder - also considering duron 800 or tbird 750 because of cost..leaning toward the t 750.but after reading other articles i'm not sure of my motherboard choice (mis k7tpro2a)..any opinions on the best combo ?? dylan- - what did you decide??

I have a MSI K7T PRO that I got extremely cheap. Though it doesn't have built on multiplier adjustments it has FSB and VCORE adj. I am modding it to change the multipliers externally via jumpers. The Pro 2a is a excellent board though I have heard that people are having some problems with them. Search through the forum for posts on the 2a. I think that I'm going with the Tbird 750. Though I could probably overclock the d700 or 800 higher than I can the tbird the general consensus on this forum is that the Tbird 750 will be a faster chip overclocked but not in terms of absolute mhz.

If anyone has anyother thoughts on this please reply before I spend the money on the chip. For a real economical setup I think the d700 is great for $47, can't shake a celeron at that.

[DE]

jmy (Feb 18, 2001 05:48 p.m.):
dylan....where can i get those processors at the price you mentioned ??

Jmy and all those interested, the prices I got were off:
www.pricewatch.com

A great service for tracking down the cheapest prices.